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00:01:17 <openmrs_web542> hello
00:03:43 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12576]: webservices.jaxws.api: identified a bug in the ObsDTO - mis-assignment of … <>
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01:07:47 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12577]: reporting: Move CompoundCohortDefinition <>
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01:32:32 <wyclif> hello
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01:59:36 <wyclif> hello
01:59:49 <downeym> hi wyclif
02:02:41 <robbyoconnor> dear hibernate, you suck
02:09:42 * downeym glares at bwolfe
02:10:58 * bwolfe wonders why
02:11:06 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #1508 (task closed): Add ability to search and browse modules from Inside OpenMRS <> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12578]: Add ability to search and browse modules from inside the webapp - … <>
02:11:09 <downeym> hmmm i wonder :)
02:12:22 * downeym reassures the fragile modrepo to get it through the night
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02:12:58 <bwolfe> downeym: whys it fragile?
02:13:07 * downeym shrugs
02:13:48 <bwolfe> its only crashed because I was uploading new wars
02:15:06 * downeym wades through broken pipes
02:15:27 <chopin> bwolfe: demo?
02:15:50 <downeym> modrepo
02:15:54 <chopin> o
02:17:08 <bwolfe> where are these pipes?
02:17:33 <downeym> connected to the internet tubes
02:21:27 <downeym>
02:21:30 <OpenMRSBot> <> (at
02:29:04 <robbyoconnor> I dont get this
02:29:14 <robbyoconnor> it's throwing it when i specify a value
02:32:49 <robbyoconnor> OHH I know what's happening..
02:33:11 <robbyoconnor> it's trying to persist maxValue
02:52:22 <bwolfe> this still that infinity thing?
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03:44:00 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #2058 (task closed): Make getConceptByName() case insensitive <>
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04:11:50 <wyclif> going to bed
04:16:04 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12579]: reporting: Initial commit of first pass Cohort Indicator editor <>
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05:20:07 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12582]: htmlwidgets: Incrementing minor version <> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12581]: htmlwidgets: Add support in ClassHandler to use a property common to each … <> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12580]: reporting: Add support in cohortIndicator editor for modifying Logic … <>
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06:24:11 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12585]: facility data 1.5.x: these missed the boat. <> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12584]: facilitydata 1.5.x: various bugfixes. <> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12583]: facility data 1.5.x branch: fix mapping files. <>
06:30:44 <ajitlodhi> hey.. Echidna ..
06:30:47 <ajitlodhi> thr..
06:31:29 <robbyoconnor> hey
06:31:40 <ajitlodhi> hey.. robbyoconnor
06:31:49 <ajitlodhi> hi..i need some help..
06:32:01 <robbyoconnor> of the mental variety?
06:32:08 <robbyoconnor> kidding! :)
06:32:10 <robbyoconnor> what's up?
06:32:14 <ajitlodhi> i know JSP,AJAX and bit of XML...
06:32:26 <robbyoconnor> ok :)
06:32:29 <ajitlodhi> and i wish to contribute to OpenMRS
06:32:33 <robbyoconnor> great
06:32:36 <ajitlodhi> so if u can help me please..
06:32:37 <robbyoconnor> !getstarted
06:32:37 <OpenMRSBot> robbyoconnor: "getstarted" ---
06:32:43 <robbyoconnor> er not what wanted
06:32:46 <ajitlodhi> ya..
06:32:46 <robbyoconnor> hold on
06:32:53 <ajitlodhi> i have installed OpenMRS
06:32:59 <ajitlodhi> its running fine..
06:32:59 <robbyoconnor> !introtickets
06:32:59 <OpenMRSBot> robbyoconnor: "introtickets" ---
06:33:04 <robbyoconnor> you wanna start there
06:33:11 <robbyoconnor> !gsoc
06:33:11 <OpenMRSBot> robbyoconnor: "gsoc" --- More information about OpenMRS and Google Summer of Code 2010 is available at
06:33:22 <ajitlodhi> k..
06:33:42 <ajitlodhi> can i get involved in any running project..if yes how..!?
06:33:44 <robbyoconnor> try and take on one of those tickets :)
06:34:11 <robbyoconnor> look at the tickets.
06:34:51 <ajitlodhi> k..iam trying ..already..
06:35:00 <ajitlodhi> thanks for help robbyoconnor ..
06:35:37 <ajitlodhi> Also robbyoconnor there any specific requirement of OpenMRS
06:35:52 <ajitlodhi> for GSOC 2010..any language that i should know...
06:36:05 <ajitlodhi> if u can tell..please
06:36:50 <ajitlodhi> last time ..i applied but didn't got selected ..
06:37:06 <robbyoconnor> a little bit of: Java, XHTML, Javascript(it helps), JSP
06:37:22 <ajitlodhi> k..
06:37:23 <robbyoconnor> knowledge of: Hibernate, Spring, etc is handy but you can pick it up as you go
06:37:37 <ajitlodhi> k..
06:38:15 <robbyoconnor> so dive in and get your feet wet!
06:38:15 <ajitlodhi> thanks..
06:38:25 <ajitlodhi> :) sure i will..
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06:55:00 <archb> Hey
06:55:03 <archb> Anybody there?
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08:39:41 <pascal`> hey rcrichton
08:39:54 <rcrichton> Hey pascal`
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10:56:30 <rod> hello!
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11:01:38 <ruwan> hi.. I wish to work on Ticket #1373
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11:29:49 <pascal`> hi rod
11:29:52 <pascal`> hi ruwan
11:29:59 <pascal`> !ticket 1373
11:29:59 <OpenMRSBot> pascal`: Ticket #1373:
11:29:59 <rod> hello
11:33:08 <rod> :) are you familiar with the GSoC projects?
11:33:34 <pascal`> !gsoc
11:33:34 <OpenMRSBot> pascal`: "gsoc" --- More information about OpenMRS and Google Summer of Code 2010 is available at
11:33:43 <pascal`> not really rod, which project are you looking at?
11:33:54 <rod>
11:33:57 <OpenMRSBot> <> (at
11:35:46 <pascal`> rod, if you have questions you should probably ask the mentor, Sy (
11:36:26 <rod> will do, thanks pascal
11:37:21 <pascal`> rod, sy should come onto irc in a while
11:51:47 <ruwan> hi pascal`, it's Ticket #2142
11:52:18 <pascal`> !ticket 2142
11:52:18 <OpenMRSBot> pascal`: Ticket #2142:
11:53:00 <ruwan> looking for advice on how to address this
11:55:02 <ruwan> description says "These checks will have to be written in sql "rules" in the module."
11:55:21 <pascal`> well, there's a LOT more information here:
11:56:04 <pascal`> according to that page there's already a version uploaded to module repository, have you downloaded and installed that?
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11:57:20 <pascal`> there's a good doc with some design info, have you read that ruwan?
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11:59:01 <ruwan> are you referring to
11:59:18 <ruwan> pascal`?
11:59:27 <pascal`> yes, and google docs and other resources linked from there
11:59:59 <pascal`> my first piece of advice would be to read everything there is about the module, then download and install it, and play around with it
12:00:13 <ruwan> how can I Install a .omod file to OpenMRS..?
12:01:44 <pascal`> ruwan,
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12:12:36 <pascal`> hi chopin
12:14:08 <chopin> hey-o pascal`
12:14:17 <chopin> how's things? beautiful as ever?
12:14:41 <pascal`> well, it's raining outside, and I have a weird AOP bug(?)...
12:14:49 <pascal`> but yeah, I guess things are ok, you?
12:18:10 <ruwan> hi chopin
12:18:16 <chopin> ruwan: hey there
12:18:23 <ruwan>
12:18:24 <OpenMRSBot> <> (at
12:18:27 <chopin> :-)
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12:18:35 * chopin acquired that one yesterday
12:18:41 <ruwan> I wish to work on this
12:18:59 <chopin> pascal`: getting InfoPath to handle relationships atm
12:19:07 <chopin> pascal`: trial by fire :-)
12:19:13 <chopin> ruwan: great! for gsoc?
12:19:19 <ruwan> yup..
12:19:35 <chopin> cool. have any questions about it?
12:20:45 <ruwan> I went through the discussions... think Date + Enum solution work....
12:21:21 <rod> chopin: are you part of gsoc as well?
12:21:36 <chopin> rod: i'm a mentor, since i work full-time on OpenMRS
12:21:43 <rod> :)
12:22:14 <Echidna> mental*
12:22:55 <ruwan> chopin: I have listed my ideas on the project on a google doc .. can u have a look..?
12:23:03 <chopin> ruwan: sure
12:24:44 <chopin> ruwan: got it
12:26:17 <ruwan> chopin: this is still "Under construction"!
12:26:25 <chopin> ruwan: hah, no problem
12:42:47 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12586]: mdrtb15. Replaced the hack for 'DIED - TB' with actual repair of the … <>
12:43:56 <chopin> ruwan: have you investigated existing Java/otherwise fuzzy date estimation techniques?
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12:47:51 <ruwan> something like Joda Time..?
12:48:20 <chopin> ruwan: well, yes ... certainly, but i was thinking in terms of estimation calculations
12:49:30 <ruwan> chopin: no, not in much detail
12:49:45 <chopin> ruwan: ok, just wondering ... as i am looking around for information, i can't find much
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12:50:12 <pascal`> hey bwolfe
12:50:36 <chopin> ruwan: i wonder if a confidence percentage would be useful, along with the enum denoting the level of estimation
12:50:39 <pascal`> bwolfe, what's that free query editor some ppl use, not aqua data studio.. the windows one.. can you remember?
12:51:08 <chopin> pascal`: i've been using the mysql workbench and it's decent enough ... navicat doesn't do queries, does it?
12:51:19 <pascal`> ah yes, navicat
12:51:20 <pascal`> thanks
12:51:28 <chopin> hah k
12:52:08 <ruwan> chopin: ie. 3 fields per 1 date stored..? Date +Enum + confidence percentage..?
12:52:13 <bwolfe> hi pascal`
12:52:33 <bwolfe> pascal`: navicat is actually available for mac and linux too
12:52:55 <pascal`> yeah but it run through wine
12:53:23 <bwolfe> chopin: navicat has a "console"...but the "query" function is disabled in the free version
12:53:25 <bwolfe> pascal`: yes, true
12:53:56 <pascal`> bwolfe, it doesn't look like it supports ms sql
12:54:04 <pascal`> bwolfe, do you know of a free one that does?
12:55:04 <bwolfe> pascal`: first, why are you using mssql?
12:55:06 <chopin> pascal`: doesn't sqlserver express come with a manager?
12:55:40 <pascal`> chopin, yeah, i'm getting tinashe to download it
12:55:51 <pascal`> bwolfe, because we're connecting with an external application which requires it
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13:05:28 <rod> has anyone else expressed interest in the ?
13:05:29 <OpenMRSBot> <> (at
13:05:47 <rod> lol nice bot
13:06:26 <robbyoconnor> rod : no
13:06:32 <robbyoconnor> not that i saw
13:06:47 <rod> great, thanks
13:07:49 <robbyoconnor> best of luck
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13:17:13 <pascal`> hey upul`
13:17:27 <upul`> hey pascal`
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13:20:15 <pascal`> hey downeym
13:20:17 <pascal`> hey nribeka
13:20:27 <nribeka> yo pascal`
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13:20:51 <nribeka> how's everything down in SA?
13:21:22 <pascal`> well, I can't speak for the whole country
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13:21:26 <pascal`> I'm good though, how are you?
13:21:27 <nribeka> lol\
13:21:32 <nribeka> lol
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13:23:09 <wyclif> hey
13:25:15 <upul`> hey wyclif
13:25:38 <pascal`> hi wyclif
13:26:30 <wyclif> hey upul
13:26:34 <wyclif> hey pascal
13:27:12 <downeym> hey pascal`
13:27:52 <pascal`> !tabcomplete
13:27:52 <OpenMRSBot> pascal`: "tabcomplete" --- Most IRC clients let you easily write someone's nickname in the channel using tab completion. Just type the first few letters, then <tab>, and voila!
13:37:25 <upul`> pascal`, do you know akon
13:37:46 <pascal`> upul`, as in the "musician"?
13:38:32 <upul`> pascal`, yes, sri lanka rejected visa for him
13:38:41 <pascal`> lol
13:39:03 <Echidna> how come
13:39:15 <Echidna> music sucks?
13:39:58 <upul`> bikini-clad women dancing in front of a Buddha statue in sexy bitch video
13:40:35 <downeym> o.O
13:41:58 <pascal`> upul`, you're joking?
13:42:54 <upul`> pascal`, which part?
13:45:06 <pascal`> upul`, about the reason for being denied
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13:46:00 <downeym> hi openmrs_web168
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13:46:08 <firc> hi :)
13:46:57 <nribeka> they reject akon upul`
13:47:10 <nribeka> wow
13:47:16 <pascal`>
13:47:18 <OpenMRSBot> <> (at
13:47:21 <pascal`> lol, it's true
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13:50:30 <downeym> hi openmrs_web012
13:50:52 <firc> downeym: its evening here :)
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13:51:07 <downeym> firc: i see that :)
13:51:42 <FaizalTheMAt> hey
13:51:48 <FaizalTheMAt> i need help
13:51:53 <firc> hi FaizalTheMAt
13:52:06 <FaizalTheMAt> i am trying to connect to open MRS svn
13:52:14 <FaizalTheMAt> but cant seem to get connected
13:52:41 <firc> what are you using, eclipse?
13:52:41 <FaizalTheMAt> this is the url rite?
13:52:53 <FaizalTheMAt> using tortoisesvn
13:53:55 <downeym> FaizalTheMAt: are you behind a proxy?
13:54:47 <FaizalTheMAt> downeym: hmmmm perhaps have been trying to connect from school
13:55:11 <FaizalTheMAt> downeym: i'll try connecting thru our vpn
13:55:36 <downeym> FaizalTheMAt: if you are, they may be blocking ports
13:56:40 <FaizalTheMAt> downeym: haha thx. i forgot my school blocks alot of ports. got thru already haha why didnt i think of this lolz
13:56:57 <downeym> FaizalTheMAt: cool
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14:00:36 <upul`> nribeka, for logic caching, i'st only logic cache going to be replaced, same interface and everything under that
14:01:50 <robbyoconnor> i looked at that
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14:01:54 <nribeka> yeah, logic cache will be replaced upul`
14:01:57 <robbyoconnor> I'm trying to find a project
14:02:37 <downeym> robbyoconnor: look here
14:04:04 * firc gets his hands dirty with modules :D
14:05:37 * upul` passes a napkin to firc
14:06:14 <nribeka> haha
14:06:54 <umashanthi> hi all
14:07:10 <pascal`> hi umashanthi
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14:08:08 <downeym> hi openmrs_web998
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14:08:31 <r-friedman> hi all
14:08:46 <pascal`> hi r-friedman
14:08:58 <r-friedman> jkeiper: is there a review of your relationship stuff going on or have I missed it?
14:09:00 <umashanthi> pascal': hi
14:09:44 <upul`> bwolfe, when it says module reloading held up until openmrs restart, does it mean a app server restart?
14:10:56 <r-friedman> downeym, bwolfe, is there a design review call?
14:11:10 <downeym> r-friedman: yes
14:11:24 <r-friedman> downeym, what number?
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14:14:42 <pascal`> r-friedman, you mean the concall number?
14:14:45 <pascal`> r-friedman,
14:15:28 <r-friedman> pascal', I tried that number, waited 10 minutes, got booted for lack of leader
14:15:56 <pascal`> i'm on now
14:16:03 <pascal`> I'm the only one on
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14:16:46 <r-friedman> pascal', how do you know you're the only one on, I didn't get told the number of callers
14:16:59 <r-friedman> just that the moderator hasn;t joined plus elevator music
14:17:18 <r-friedman> i am on now
14:17:20 <pascal`> it told me I was the only on
14:17:38 <pascal`> still just have elevator music though
14:18:15 <pascal`> bwolfe, downeym, is the freeconferencing number correct here: ?
14:18:49 <pascal`> r-friedman, can't really talk... in an open-plan office
14:19:00 <pascal`> r-friedman, oh ok I see
14:19:07 <pascal`> I wonder where the rest of the guys are
14:19:24 <pascal`> jkeiper, nribeka, on the design review call?
14:19:31 <r-friedman> in a pot cafe in Amsterdam
14:19:37 <pascal`> =D
14:20:22 <nribeka> lol
14:20:26 <nribeka> pot cafe party done
14:20:40 <nribeka> r-friedman, there were nobody joining us on the call
14:20:59 <nribeka> jkeiper, will send the relationship mockup design
14:21:10 * r-friedman passes the pipe
14:22:20 <pascal`> nribeka, so is there no call today?
14:22:25 <bwolfe> upul``: yes, app server restart
14:22:38 <r-friedman> nribeka, post on wiki?
14:22:45 <jkeiper> r-friedman: ah, dangit ... yes :-/
14:22:57 <jkeiper> r-friedman: but i have a mockup almost ready
14:22:59 <bwolfe> hmm, weird, we were on the call for 40 mins. but we dial in with the same number and access code
14:23:14 <r-friedman> must have started at 9 not 10
14:23:26 <jkeiper> o
14:23:26 <nribeka> r-friedman, yes it's started at 9
14:23:28 <jkeiper> it did
14:23:28 <pascal`> aah yes
14:23:30 <pascal`> that's it
14:23:34 <pascal`> d'oh
14:23:37 <jkeiper> bleh
14:23:38 <nribeka> time diff?
14:23:44 <pascal`> daylight saving =S
14:23:48 <jkeiper> sorry guys
14:23:50 <nribeka> daylight thingy
14:23:51 <r-friedman> sense of time lost in pipe
14:23:58 <nribeka> lol r-friedman
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14:34:41 <jkeiper> r-friedman, pascal`, nribeka, bwolfe:
14:35:52 <r-friedman> jkeiper++
14:35:55 <jkeiper> :-)
14:35:58 <bwolfe> jkeiper: why is jane M Doe in the search box but Judith Test in the pink box?
14:36:15 <jkeiper> may change "Relationship" column to specifically say "Doctor (John is Patient)"
14:36:26 <jkeiper> or "Parent (John is Child)"
14:36:35 <bwolfe> and I thought the relation search was going to be first?
14:36:57 <jkeiper> bwolfe: i could put that person's block up top
14:37:05 <jkeiper> but either way, the other elements can be hidden until a person is chosen
14:37:27 <jkeiper> a single image isn't so good for displaying progress
14:37:40 <jkeiper> bwolfe: user error
14:37:51 <jkeiper> (that's her pseudonym anyways)
14:37:57 <pascal`> does it make coffee?
14:38:06 <jkeiper> roasts, but you have to grind
14:38:15 <pascal`> good enough
14:38:18 <pascal`> jkeiper++
14:38:26 <jkeiper> :-D
14:38:51 <jkeiper> balsamiq++
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14:39:41 <pascal`> jkeiper--
14:39:43 <pascal`> chopin++
14:39:52 <jkeiper> haha
14:39:54 <jkeiper> oops
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14:40:06 <chopin> every time i switch from wireless to wired it does that
14:40:16 <chopin> i get to coexist with myself
14:40:22 <chopin> then one of me dies
14:40:49 <r-friedman> so the process is (1) choose a person (2) choose a relationship (3) invert the relationship if necesssary (4) OK
14:40:59 <chopin> r-friedman: yep, that was my plan
14:41:13 <chopin> r-friedman: you should have seen the << prev
14:41:14 <chopin> version
14:41:19 <chopin> would have required much more clicking ;-)
14:41:39 <r-friedman> agree with b.wolfe that search should be first then
14:41:55 <chopin> yep, i'll just show the patient search widget first
14:42:06 <chopin> and i'll leave the searched-for person on top
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14:43:52 <r-friedman> can our relationships be self-referential? the barber who shaves himself?
14:44:32 <chopin> r-friedman: as of right now, there are checks to keep that from happening
14:44:39 <r-friedman> actual use case is probably head of household
14:44:54 <chopin> right .. primary caregiver
14:45:22 <r-friedman> household work is going to go up with handhelds going to community health workers
14:46:05 <r-friedman> need to get some of the household stuff discussed at last Capetown meeting implemented
14:48:06 <chopin> r-friedman: lots of household discussion on the mailing list ... talking about that?
14:48:22 <chopin> r-friedman, pascal`, bwolfe, nribeka: ...?
14:48:50 <pascal`> chopin, I haven't been following this at all, so it's ok to leave me off the notification list :)
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14:49:40 <nribeka> i like it chopin
14:49:41 <nribeka> :D
14:49:42 <bwolfe> chopin: how does that look when you first load the page ?
14:49:57 <bwolfe> win, keep it down over there
14:49:59 <bwolfe> stop your cyring
14:50:02 <bwolfe> *crying
14:51:03 <r-friedman> chopin, I would prefer to see a single "reverse roles" button under the relationship combo
14:51:19 <chopin> pascal`: haha, k
14:51:35 <chopin> bwolfe: imagine nothing but the search bar and a cancel button
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14:51:40 <downeym> hi saiskopu
14:51:59 <chopin> r-friedman: good idea!
14:52:16 <bwolfe> haha
14:52:27 <bwolfe> chopin: no pink box?
14:52:39 <bwolfe> chopin: or what does it look like right after they choose the relation ?
14:53:15 <r-friedman> maybe no blue box
14:53:27 <chopin> ?
14:53:50 <r-friedman> blue box will always be current patient
14:53:56 <chopin> yep
14:54:02 <chopin> blue or pink, based on gender
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14:54:43 <chopin> reason for the box: need a way to specify that John D. Patient is on that side of the relationship
14:54:44 <r-friedman> section 508 rules say no information passed through color only
14:54:55 <chopin> muh moh!
14:55:35 <r-friedman> what about adding a new person to be in the relationship?
14:55:52 <r-friedman> ex: ART form asking for relatives and HIV status, relatives are not patients
14:56:13 <chopin> r-friedman: the person search box has an "add new person" option
14:56:24 <chopin> r-friedman: using the existing person search widget
14:56:29 <chopin> er portlet, whatever
14:56:31 <chopin> dojo widget
14:56:50 <r-friedman> ok, never tried to do that from within infopath
14:57:43 <chopin> so, 1) get rid of extraneous information for the patient, 2) place the patient first for clarity's sake, 3) add a "switch relation" button under the combo box
14:59:33 <r-friedman> chopin, what if the relationship dropdown has each side included, eg both "child" and "parent" would be listed
14:59:52 <r-friedman> then no need to invert and no need to mention patient to emphasize role
15:02:37 <chopin> r-friedman: well, we went that direction at one point, and if there are multiple options for either side you'll need two dropdowns ... more logic
15:02:46 <chopin> r-friedman: trying to make this simple and easy for data entry folks
15:02:56 <r-friedman> chopin, example of multiple options?
15:03:12 <chopin> Doctor -> Patient, Nurse -> Patient
15:03:22 <chopin> Mother / Son, Father / Son
15:03:53 <chopin> it depends on how complex the relationships are per installation
15:04:07 <r-friedman> right, I was thinking of translation issues
15:04:16 <chopin> r-friedman: yes, another issue altogether
15:04:20 <r-friedman> hermano/a
15:04:46 <r-friedman> also some non-European relationships, like eldest uncle
15:04:58 <chopin> right on ... and that's where burke was looking at using a serialization method for encoding multiple permutations of a relationship side
15:05:20 <chopin> it would require a much smarter relationship service
15:05:48 <r-friedman> so what about showing a disambiguation box only if necessary?
15:05:54 <chopin> and some up-front administration per installation to define these fields
15:06:18 <chopin> right, if we chose just one side then the other wouldn't necessarily need it
15:06:52 <r-friedman> nor would all relationships need it
15:08:47 <chopin> the big problem with the current relationship portlet is that people are confused about what side refers to whom
15:08:54 <chopin> when selecting a side
15:09:49 <r-friedman> that's what I was thinking of, if you select a person, then select that person's relationship to the patient, then disambiguate if necessary
15:10:23 <chopin> yep
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15:11:40 <chopin> so ... leave the relative's info on top, show the combo box of relationships, then reveal the switch button and a description of the reverse relationship after choosing from the dropdown
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15:11:47 * chopin puts that in
15:12:25 <r-friedman> no, no switch button -- relationship dropdown has all possible from either side
15:13:15 <r-friedman> person -- sibling -- OK
15:13:27 <r-friedman> person -- father -- son/daughter -- OK
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15:14:42 <r-friedman> "daughter" sure is weird spelling
15:15:29 <chopin> mmhmm
15:15:32 * chopin keeps mocking up
15:16:15 <r-friedman> what tool is chopin using to mock up?
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15:16:48 <chopin> r-friedman:
15:17:59 <umashanthi> chopin: it is really a cool tool.. I have to look at it
15:18:00 <r-friedman> chopin++
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15:19:01 <robbyoconnor> downeym: iu have
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15:19:05 <robbyoconnor> nothing vatches my eye
15:19:23 <r-friedman> non-transitive relationship, robbyoconnor
15:19:31 <r-friedman> just what we were talking about
15:19:33 <robbyoconnor> I mean Concept Proposal looks interesting but I had a knee-jerk response last summer
15:19:49 <robbyoconnor> I wanna bring my previous soc project full circle
15:20:02 <robbyoconnor> but it's not a priority for PIH
15:20:27 <robbyoconnor> "Notes" looks fun -- but i lack the HTML skills
15:20:41 <robbyoconnor> I was eying the Billing Module :X
15:20:44 <robbyoconnor> I dunno
15:20:55 <robbyoconnor> I honestly don't think i stand a chance this summer
15:21:00 <chopin> very cool ... we have a license for OpenMRS
15:21:10 <umashanthi> robbyoconnor: Did you made a proposal for the Conpcet Proposal Module last time?
15:21:12 <robbyoconnor> having prven one thing -- i can't complete a project :(
15:21:18 <robbyoconnor> umashanthi: no
15:21:22 <robbyoconnor> Facility Data
15:21:23 <chopin> finish him!
15:21:35 <robbyoconnor> I have a project ALMOST finished :)
15:21:44 <upul`> firc, how's modules
15:21:45 <robbyoconnor> but i have one bug which i cant figure out for the life of me
15:21:47 <robbyoconnor> :(
15:21:50 <r-friedman> robbyoconnor, not completing projects well is a great skill for project managers
15:22:03 <bwolfe> !karma chopin
15:22:03 <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: Karma for "chopin" has been increased 5 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 4.
15:22:05 <robbyoconnor> r-friedman: I got it ALMOST done :(
15:22:06 <bwolfe> !karma jkeiper
15:22:06 <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: Karma for "jkeiper" has been increased 3 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 2.
15:22:18 <chopin> hah
15:22:21 <robbyoconnor> I feel like i let burke, paul, etc down
15:22:29 <robbyoconnor> I technically finished it
15:22:30 <chopin> my alter ego is less cool than me
15:22:31 <firc> upul`: still looking, was a bit busy till now
15:22:42 <robbyoconnor> but unfortunately it worked on 1.6.x but *NOT* 1.5.x (the requirement :|_
15:22:58 <robbyoconnor> then my instance of openmrs crapped out at crunch time
15:23:00 <firc> upul`: you're applying for gsoc too?
15:23:10 <robbyoconnor> I'm applying but i don't feel so confident
15:23:11 <upul`> firc, yes
15:23:15 <firc> cool
15:23:47 <robbyoconnor> I wanna speak w/ paul, burke, ben wtc
15:23:48 <upul`> i'm trying probably the module sqldiff
15:23:52 <robbyoconnor> see if it's worth my time
15:23:57 <robbyoconnor> :X
15:24:09 <robbyoconnor> upul`: i'll steer clear of that one :)
15:24:13 <robbyoconnor> out of respect :)
15:24:26 <firc> man, half the time I can't access my computer due to "load sheddings"
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15:26:04 <firc> power cuts :p
15:26:31 <r-friedman> load shedding another good skill for project managers
15:26:35 <firc> or planned blackouts. I guess thats what its called in the rest of the world
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15:26:50 <downeym> hi rod_
15:26:58 <rod_> hey
15:27:55 <rod_> im trying to get started on getting through the code
15:28:35 <chopin> robbyoconnor: use case for vms i guess (dying instances)
15:30:03 <robbyoconnor> :/
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15:34:51 <chopin> bwolfe, r-friedman, nribeka, wyclif:
15:35:00 <chopin> bwolfe: it has each step, just for YOU.
15:36:25 <chopin> if the relationship's wrong, the user just changes the dropdown
15:36:49 <bwolfe> I could live with either of these :-p
15:36:59 <bwolfe> both seem much clearer than what we have now
15:37:09 <chopin> true
15:40:41 <r-friedman> chopin++
15:40:55 <r-friedman> I like "verify relationship" even if only one is possible
15:41:38 <chopin> r-friedman: cool. i'll stick with this for now :-)
15:41:42 <chopin> at least get it working
15:41:59 <r-friedman> oh, I thought it was working already :-))
15:42:20 <chopin> hah! this is for offline forms. .. need to get the relationship into the InfoPath form data
15:42:22 <r-friedman> expectation management, another useful skill
15:42:34 <chopin> * offline relationships, that is
15:42:50 <r-friedman> i won't intrude into your offline relationships
15:43:31 <r-friedman> this is just a NK1 HL7 record, right?
15:43:44 <chopin> r-friedman: exactamundo
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15:46:52 <r-friedman> tks chopin, very useful, very responsive
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15:47:15 <chopin> r-friedman: balsamiq? yeah ... love it.
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15:47:37 <r-friedman> not the tool, the interchange
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15:50:52 * chopin uses comic sans in the taskpane widget so it looks -just- like balsamiq
15:51:02 <Shazin> bwolfe: Hi
15:51:15 * robbyoconnor kicks chopin
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15:51:29 <robbyoconnor> thank god im alone.. i can't sing for shit
15:51:50 <bwolfe> hey
15:51:51 <robbyoconnor> i mean i can'y sing
15:51:58 <robbyoconnor> sorry
15:52:03 <robbyoconnor> i gotts work on that
15:59:02 <r-friedman> robbyoconnor, confine your singing to irc
15:59:06 * r-friedman sings off-key
15:59:21 * robbyoconnor sings nsync
15:59:35 <robbyoconnor> (yes the boy band) \
15:59:49 <robbyoconnor> (yes, i just admitted in a publically logged channel i listen to them!)
16:00:13 <r-friedman> that's OK, we're all 14 here
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16:03:40 <robbyoconnor> LOL
16:03:44 <robbyoconnor> at heart
16:06:41 <Echidna> hell no
16:08:27 <robbyoconnor> Echidna
16:08:54 <Echidna> robbyoconnor
16:10:04 <Echidna> (he probably got distracted by something shiny and forgot he wanted to say something)
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16:38:18 <wyclif> hey
16:38:34 <wyclif> jimmy johns was awesome today
16:43:01 <chopin> wyclif: what did you get?
16:43:12 <wyclif> number 4
16:43:34 <wyclif> with turkey and the usual stuff i get on my sandwiches
16:43:52 <wyclif> but this was really good
16:43:55 <chopin> wyclif: i had lots and lots of onions on a burger last week, thought you would enjoy it
16:44:07 <wyclif> sure i would
16:45:16 <wyclif> chopin: i love the mix of onions and tomatoes and not onions alone
16:46:12 <chopin> we had tomatoes too wyclif ... :-)
16:46:30 <wyclif> chopin: we wanted to go with you but you were nowhere to be found
16:46:52 <chopin> i was right here ... but it's atkins for me!
16:46:57 <wyclif> lol
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17:11:01 <nribeka> hi earsareclosed
17:11:17 <earsareclosed> hello nribeka
17:11:56 <nribeka> what would bring you down to our humble shack earsareclosed?
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17:12:23 <downeym> hi openmrs_web629
17:13:30 <earsareclosed> I am interested in GSoC and wanted to see if the mentor assigned to the projects I am interested in were online.
17:15:11 <nribeka> ah ic ic earsareclosed
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17:19:56 <rod_> anyone know what 'serviceContext is null.' ERROR means during install?
17:19:58 <nribeka> who's the mentor earsareclosed and which the project?
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17:21:28 <rod_> hello syhaas
17:21:38 <syhaas> sup rod_
17:21:50 <earsareclosed> I am actually interested in 2 projects: Longitudinal Data Review Module (Sy Haas) and the Genome Data Storage and Drug Resistance Prediction (Carl Fourie)
17:21:58 <rod_> Ive seen your listed as mentor for data viewer project (gsoc) :)
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17:24:07 <syhaas> yes, i'm for the flowsheet module
17:24:43 <syhaas> it's quite an exciting project though loads of work
17:24:55 <rod_> any suggestions on best place to start to get acclimated with the code?
17:25:16 <nribeka>
17:25:20 <OpenMRSBot> <> (at
17:25:56 <syhaas> definitly check out the code, look at and develop a "basic" module to get a feel for module development
17:26:23 <syhaas> download the eclipse plugin for openmrs to make your life much easier in that respect
17:27:26 <rod_> lol a standalone eclipse package
17:27:39 <rod_> will use :)
17:28:01 <bwolfe> I don't really recommened the "openmrs dev studio"...but I do recommened the openmrs eclipse plugins
17:28:08 <bwolfe> (like the module one that sy mentioned)
17:29:11 <rod_> good thing you have a nice api...I've looked around at a few projects and its difficult to get started
17:29:37 <rod_> *doc
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17:35:25 <chopin> rod_: just wait till 2.0 ;-)
17:37:31 <earsareclosed> how difficult would it be to get a module from the bottom of the list (not GSoC suitable) edited to become GSoC suitable?
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17:41:56 <chopin> earsareclosed: which one?
17:42:02 <chopin> earsareclosed: $$ ;-)
17:42:07 <earsareclosed> Billing
17:42:23 * chopin points at downeym
17:43:54 * chopin nudges downeym
17:45:03 <earsareclosed> downeym: the Billing Module has the primary mentor listed as Saptarshi Purkayastha, how difficult would it be to get this project added to the GSoC suitable list?
17:45:38 <chopin> nribeka: see if downeym has passed out at his desk (again)
17:45:59 <nribeka> lol
17:46:52 <nribeka> downeym is MIA chopin
17:47:35 <nribeka> none of the GSoC *compatible* project is interesting enough earsareclosed?
17:48:06 <nribeka> btw, for students, it's better if you write proposal for more than one project, right bwolfe
17:48:28 <bwolfe> !bwolfesays
17:48:28 <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: "bwolfesays" --- FYI to all potential GSoC Applicants: OpenMRS welcomes multiple applications for multiple projects within openmrs. Actually, we encourage it! Sometimes we get quality students only applying to a low priority project. So pick a few projects that interest you, apply to all of them, and put comments in them saying which other ones you've applied to
17:48:39 <bwolfe> !bwolfealsosays
17:48:39 <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: "bwolfealsosays" --- To greatly increase your chances of getting accepted by openmrs you should demonstrate your knowledge/skills in both java and potentially openmrs. The best way to do that is to finish a few small tickets. Type !trivialtickets and !introtickets for links to some that we have defined.
17:49:49 <earsareclosed> nribeka: there are 2 other projects that I am interested in, however one of them I feel will require more expertise than I have
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17:51:11 <chopin> earsareclosed: learning opportunity!
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17:51:17 <downeym> hi mastahyeti
17:51:30 <chopin> downeym--
17:51:35 <chopin> for faking it!
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17:56:45 <earsareclosed> chopin: touche, however genomics is a lot to learn in a summer
17:57:27 <syhaas> i agree, pick something that interests you, that will challenge you, and learn a great deal about the type of development you want to do
17:59:40 <earsareclosed> downeym: how difficult would it be to have the Billing module added to the GSoC suitable list of projects?
18:00:39 <nribeka> ah nice. finally yourkit is working :)
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18:16:07 <Shazin> Hi
18:16:49 <Shazin> Can anyone tell me the filename and controller name of OpenMRS upgrade wizard page
18:18:26 <chopin> earsareclosed: meet downeym (i think he's back)
18:18:48 <earsareclosed> hello downeym
18:18:51 <downeym> earsareclosed: As it stands now, that project is too large to be completed during the 2 months time frame for GSoC
18:19:03 <luzhuangwei> Shazin, is the filter for upgrade wizard page
18:19:18 <luzhuangwei> you can see info from that class
18:19:26 <earsareclosed> downeym: so I could possibly write a proposal that would reduce the project to a reasonable size?
18:19:33 <ruwan> how can I reset an OpenMRS installation?
18:19:44 <downeym> earsareclosed: You could try to do that, I would recommend working with the listed mentor to do it, though.
18:20:11 <nribeka> ruwan, remove the runtime properties and remove the default database user for openmrs
18:20:11 <earsareclosed> downeym: thats what I planned to do if it was okay, thank you
18:20:20 <downeym> earsareclosed: At least to contact him before you make any kind of proposal.
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18:21:15 <downeym> earsareclosed: But as bwolfe stated, we'd encourage you to apply for multiple listed projects that are interesting to you. People who only apply for one project have a greater chance in being disappointed. :)
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18:21:29 <ruwan> where are the runtime properties stored?
18:22:00 <earsareclosed> downeym: I am emailing the mentor now, if this works out I have more than one I am interested in applying for
18:24:08 <chopin> ruwan: which operating system?
18:24:23 <ruwan> win xp
18:25:45 <chopin> ruwan: c:\documents and settings\[username]\ApplicationData\Roaming\OpenMRS\
18:25:54 <chopin> ruwan: or just search for
18:26:11 <chopin> using updatedb and locate in cygwin works well :-)
18:27:47 <nribeka> using ubuntu works better too chopin ;)
18:28:21 <chopin> i'm windows-sympathetci
18:28:23 <chopin> ic
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18:33:59 <Shazin> luzhuangwei: Thanks alot
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18:34:25 <luzhuangwei> Ah, no thanks:-)
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18:57:30 <nribeka> bwolfe, can find such ticket
18:57:39 <nribeka> will create one then
18:58:17 <rod_> so , anyone know what 'serviceContext is null.' ERROR means during install? :)
19:00:41 <nribeka> bwolfe know rod_
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19:03:09 <nribeka> rod_, i don't think it's an error. it's just a log saying that everything is starting up
19:04:02 <nribeka> serviceContext is null. Creating new ServiceContext() --> this is the full log entry i think
19:04:28 <rod_> it says ERROR though
19:05:08 <rod_> hmm lemme try again and ill report back
19:05:53 <nribeka> yeah, the log call is log.error
19:06:07 <nribeka> line 243
19:07:54 <rod_> Is it supposed to lead me right back to the initial install prompt after completing install?
19:10:07 <bwolfe> nribeka: 95% sure there is a ticket for it
19:10:56 <nribeka> too late bwolfe :
19:10:57 <nribeka> :D
19:11:04 <nribeka> 2168
19:11:11 <nribeka> !tickets 2168
19:11:11 <OpenMRSBot> nribeka: Error: "tickets" is not a valid command.
19:11:15 <nribeka> !ticket 2168
19:11:15 <OpenMRSBot> nribeka: Ticket #2168:
19:11:21 <nribeka> thank you OpenMRSBot
19:12:42 <nribeka> learn
19:13:04 <nribeka> learn nribekasay !ticket 2168
19:13:10 <nribeka> !nribekasay
19:13:10 <OpenMRSBot> nribeka: Error: "nribekasay" is not a valid command.
19:13:15 <nribeka> booo the bot
19:13:39 <nribeka> !help learn
19:13:39 <OpenMRSBot> nribeka: (learn [<channel>] <key> as <value>) -- Associates <key> with <value>. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself. The word 'as' is necessary to separate the key from the value. It can be changed to another word via the learnSeparator registry value.
19:13:53 <nribeka> learn nribekasay as !ticket 2168
19:13:56 <nribeka> !nribekasay
19:13:56 <OpenMRSBot> nribeka: Error: "nribekasay" is not a valid command.
19:14:04 <nribeka> !learn nribekasay as !ticket 2168
19:14:04 <OpenMRSBot> nribeka: The operation succeeded.
19:14:07 <nribeka> !nribekasay
19:14:07 <OpenMRSBot> nribeka: "nribekasay" --- !ticket 2168
19:15:00 <rod_> so I have 'completed' install and there is NO file , in application data/OpenMRS ..hmm
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19:15:35 <nribeka> hmm maybe in C:\Application Data\OpenMRS rod_
19:16:03 <rod_> o yes thats the one im checking .. the other 'appData' folder does not even contain an openMRS folder itself
19:16:10 <rod_> (i use vista)
19:16:27 <rod_> I also have ubuntu installed, recommend I switch over?
19:18:04 <nribeka> boo vista
19:18:16 <nribeka> in your user appdata no openmrs too?
19:18:37 <nribeka> if you open localhost:8080/openmrs you don't get anything?
19:18:43 <rod_> I get the install, always
19:19:36 <rod_> The application is supposed to run after the install completes right?
19:20:36 <rod_> user/appdata has no openMRS
19:21:54 <rod_> c:/application data/ roaming has openMRS/modules/ .. empty folders
19:23:53 <nribeka> yeah, you're ssupposed to get the apps running after the install completes
19:23:59 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12597]: reporting: followup on 'moving all un-reviewed cohort definitions into a … <> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12596]: reporting: followup on 'moving all un-reviewed cohort definitions into a … <> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12595]: in patientmatching module, changed closed form u calculation to not count … <> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12594]: --nbsmodule * resurrect old module * address compatibility with later … <>
19:24:26 <rod_> I will make attempt in ubuntu
19:24:32 <nribeka> you can try to pastebin your tomcat log and see what happen during the install?
19:24:36 <nribeka> good one :P
19:24:41 <rod_> already done :)
19:24:45 <rod_>
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19:25:07 <downeym> hi openmrs_web888
19:25:16 <rod_> seems like runtime properties file isnt made with vista?
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19:28:17 <rod_> can i just copy paste an appropriate file in the folder?
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19:34:34 <bwolfe> rod_: those messages are red herrings...they are not really errors
19:35:08 <bwolfe> they are just saying that hte runtime properties file is missing...therefore the initialization wizard that you are in starts up
19:35:21 <bwolfe> we need to change the wording in those so that people know that its not a real error...suggestions?
19:35:29 <rod_> change to warning
19:36:10 <downeym> info
19:36:22 <rod_> it says 'ERROR - Context.getServiceContext(243)' .. makes it seems like a pretty serious error ^_^
19:38:06 <rod_> btw how does openMRS know which database to start up in, is it the latest one created?
19:39:11 <bwolfe> they do say warning...
19:39:36 <bwolfe> and we could make them INFO but then we'd have to change the logging to always print them
19:39:58 <bwolfe> I suppose we could change it from log.warn(...) to log.alwaysprint(...) (if that existed)
19:40:25 <bwolfe> rod_: not sure why getServiceContext is null there, that should be looked into...but again, its not a serious error
19:40:45 <rod_> how do I begin to get app to actually start
19:40:50 <bwolfe> rod_: it knows by the runtime properties file. that file is created by the initialization wizard once you're done with the questions
19:41:02 <bwolfe> the app will start after the wizard is done
19:41:12 <bwolfe> takes up to 20 mins on some machines to get all the demo data in
19:41:44 * robbyoconnor sighs
19:41:59 <robbyoconnor> how do I get the object's id to *NOT* be null and get the current id?
19:42:15 <robbyoconnor> when i initially create it?
19:43:50 <bwolfe> do a saveOrUPdate instead of a merge
19:44:16 <robbyoconnor> ok
19:44:29 <robbyoconnor> I did a merge because i was getting exceptions
19:44:48 <robbyoconnor> (due to some quite massive cascading)
19:45:14 <robbyoconnor> I guess i'll just forward to the listing
19:47:28 <robbyoconnor> this code is a joke
19:47:29 <robbyoconnor> LOL
19:48:31 <robbyoconnor> I use exceptions to handle flow lol
19:48:44 <robbyoconnor> if nothing goes wrong do saveOrUpdate else do merge
19:48:44 <robbyoconnor> :X
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19:55:42 <jfloppy> hi :)
19:58:04 <bwolfe> hello jfloppy
19:58:13 <jfloppy> hi bwolfe
19:59:15 <robbyoconnor> what the freak
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20:09:35 <downeym> robbyoconnor: o.O
20:10:07 <robbyoconnor> just when i resolve all errors -- ANOTHER one pops up that didn't happen before!!!
20:10:20 <robbyoconnor> !bwolfe++
20:10:32 <downeym> no !
20:10:34 <downeym> :)
20:11:49 <robbyoconnor> org.openmrs.module.facilitydata.model.FacilityDataValue cannot be cast to java.lang.String
20:11:52 <robbyoconnor> well uhh duh
20:11:56 <bwolfe> does that even work? or did that increment the username "!bwolfe" ?
20:11:59 <robbyoconnor> what the heck are you doing spring?
20:12:08 <robbyoconnor> bwolfe++
20:12:08 <robbyoconnor> :D
20:12:14 <robbyoconnor> bwolfe++
20:12:15 <robbyoconnor> bwolfe++
20:12:15 <robbyoconnor> bwolfe++
20:12:16 <robbyoconnor> bwolfe++
20:12:16 <robbyoconnor> bwolfe++
20:12:17 <downeym> robbyoconnor--
20:12:17 <robbyoconnor> bwolfe++
20:12:20 <robbyoconnor> bwolfe++
20:12:22 <robbyoconnor> bwolfe++
20:12:23 <robbyoconnor> bwolfe++
20:12:25 <robbyoconnor> downeym--
20:12:29 <robbyoconnor> I DECLARE WAR
20:12:31 <robbyoconnor> wait
20:12:34 <robbyoconnor> war over!
20:12:34 <bwolfe> you're probably doing ${status.value} somewhere
20:12:35 <robbyoconnor> you win!
20:12:37 <robbyoconnor> :D
20:12:51 <bwolfe> you can do ${status.editor.value} to ignore casting to strings
20:13:05 <bwolfe> (if you're passing a value to a taglib you'll need to do this)
20:13:08 <robbyoconnor> this didnt happen
20:13:09 <robbyoconnor> before
20:13:10 <robbyoconnor> ...
20:13:27 <robbyoconnor> I swear there's a conspiracy against me
20:14:03 <r-friedman> what makes you think you deserve a conspiracy? probably just one evil elf
20:14:27 <robbyoconnor> I wouldn't be surprised
20:14:43 <robbyoconnor> r-friedman: how do you like your localized yes, no, unknown :)
20:15:10 <r-friedman> me gusta mucho, señor
20:15:39 <robbyoconnor> speak english mr
20:15:44 <robbyoconnor> i dont speak spanish
20:15:55 <robbyoconnor> and google translate is comical :)
20:16:31 <r-friedman> translation is robbyoconnor++
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20:16:59 <robbyoconnor> it's pointing a service call..
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20:17:08 * robbyoconnor fires up the debugger
20:18:17 <robbyoconnor> RequiredDataAdvice is doing something!
20:18:42 <robbyoconnor> it's passing the question!
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20:23:32 <openmrs_web398> hi
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20:24:40 <rod_> hello, gsoc?
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20:24:51 <downeym> !gsoc
20:24:51 <OpenMRSBot> downeym: "gsoc" --- More information about OpenMRS and Google Summer of Code 2010 is available at
20:25:49 <arch> yup
20:25:54 <arch> gsoc
20:25:58 <rod_> me as well
20:26:26 <arch> I am interested in two projects: the MocaMobile one and the drug delivery system one
20:26:38 <downeym> cool
20:26:52 <arch> what about you guys?
20:26:57 <rod_> I was looking at the data viewer
20:28:44 * robbyoconnor throws his laptop out the window
20:29:02 <arch> lol^?
20:29:07 <downeym> rod_: syhaas_ is planned as mentor for data viewer
20:29:23 <downeym> the moca guys aren't here
20:29:31 <arch> yeah. katherine and rj?
20:29:35 <downeym> right
20:29:48 <arch> I've emailed them - I'm actually from MIT.
20:29:55 <downeym> cool
20:30:07 <arch> I know katherine well and she told me to apply.
20:30:07 <downeym> i'm sure they'll get back to you
20:30:13 <downeym> haha
20:30:24 <robbyoconnor> katherine was a 2009 student under tammy wasn't she?
20:30:27 <arch> yup
20:30:28 <arch> she was.
20:30:41 <robbyoconnor> ...this is weird
20:30:41 <arch> I really like what MocaMobile has done so far.
20:30:53 <downeym> hmm ... 6800 hits on the projects page
20:30:54 <robbyoconnor> many of my fellow 2009 students are mentors
20:31:07 <arch> 6800 hits - wow.
20:31:14 <downeym> 2500 on the main gsoc page
20:31:15 <rod_> many hits
20:31:26 <arch> do you know when carl will be on?
20:31:36 <downeym> carl fourie?
20:31:49 <arch> yup.
20:31:59 <downeym> hmm, he is not often on IRC
20:32:02 <arch> his project looks very exciting as well.
20:32:24 <arch> I have done a lot of genomics work before, and it would be interesting to look at it from this perspective
20:33:00 <arch> from what I can see - his project is through Jembi?
20:33:16 <arch> which does ARV treatment in South Africa?
20:33:17 <downeym> yep
20:33:23 <downeym>
20:33:39 <downeym> jembi is one of our larger implementer groups around the world
20:34:01 <arch> ah.
20:34:17 <arch> let me introduce myself fully.
20:34:32 <arch> My name is Archit, and I am currently a student at MIT. how about you?
20:35:06 <arch> I'm studying EECS and might also do some developmental economics/public policy
20:35:22 <arch> hbu?
20:36:07 <arch> also, should I contact carl through Jembi?
20:36:13 <downeym> i am ;)
20:36:27 <downeym> arch: will send you his e-mail address, hang on
20:37:06 <arch> thanks :)
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20:37:41 <r-friedman> c**a**r**l**at***j***e***m***b***i***dot***org
20:37:49 <downeym> :D
20:37:50 <r-friedman> drop asterisks
20:38:16 <downeym>
20:38:18 <arch> awesome :)
20:38:18 <downeym> (rot-13)
20:38:33 <r-friedman> arch, i just finished writing him, I have a lot of experience with drug resistance and genomics
20:38:55 <arch> r-friedman are you gsoc as well?
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20:39:11 <r-friedman> no i'm an old fart
20:39:18 <downeym> r-friedman++
20:39:50 <arch> haha
20:40:54 <arch> I heard OpenMRS played a crucial part in Haiti as well
20:40:59 <downeym> yes
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20:41:10 <r-friedman> i'm so old, the computers i started on only had zeros
20:41:17 <downeym> tracked a lot of the surgeries and clinics after the earthquake
20:41:25 <rod_> how can completely wipe out openmrs and start over?
20:41:37 <arch> you partnered with PIH?
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20:42:01 <arch> *Partners in Health
20:42:06 <downeym> arch: PIH is one of our founding partners
20:42:20 <arch> oh wow. did not know that.
20:42:22 <downeym> jmiranda is from PIH and spent a lot of time in haiti, he should answer :)
20:42:25 <arch> should read up on history.
20:42:49 <r-friedman> three years of irc logs to catch up onh
20:42:52 <r-friedman> (on
20:42:56 <arch> haha yeah.
20:42:57 <r-friedman> *on
20:42:58 <bwolfe> rod_: delete your runtime properties file and restart tomcat
20:43:28 <rod_> thanks bwolfe
20:43:35 <downeym> arch: and
20:43:57 <jmiranda> downeym, i have never actually stepped foot in haiti (unfortunately)
20:44:23 * downeym takes it all back :)
20:44:46 <arch> - I guess PIH deals with more of the implementation part, then?
20:45:04 <bwolfe> downeym: why is different from ?
20:45:28 <downeym> bwolfe: the spreadsheet part shouldn't be different
20:45:37 <arch> map.openmrs seems to be more updated
20:45:57 <jmiranda> arch, but yes we have a few developers who work on openmrs stuff (or have throughout the project's history)
20:46:01 <nribeka> soon you will see one on top of Bali / Indonesia downeym
20:46:07 <robbyoconnor> ....
20:46:12 <downeym> if someone wants to embed the google maps API javascript into mediawiki for the /wiki/Implementations map they're welcome to :)
20:46:53 <arch> "according to that program's manager, it receives more student applications than the Apache Software Foundation." -
20:47:07 <downeym> yes
20:47:12 <arch> wow.
20:47:19 <bwolfe> arch: where'd you read that?
20:47:21 <rod_> mediawiki?
20:47:24 <arch> yup
20:47:26 <arch> mediawiki
20:47:27 <rod_> heh
20:47:31 <bwolfe> link?
20:47:35 <bwolfe> or front page? ;-)
20:47:39 <downeym>
20:47:41 <arch>
20:47:53 <arch> yup
20:49:05 <arch> how did openmrs end up partnering with moca?
20:49:09 <jmiranda> arch, nice
20:49:51 <bwolfe> moca found us
20:49:55 <arch> ah.
20:50:00 <arch> yeah I guess that makes sense.
20:50:19 <arch> considering moca's medical record system is basically openmrs
20:51:42 <arch> for gsoc is the application process done through individual mentors or is it directly to OpenMRS i.e. I know we have to submit the final application to OpenMRS; however, do the mentors have a say?
20:53:23 <nribeka> wow grameen is on the accepted list
20:53:32 <arch> hmm?
20:53:51 <downeym> The applications are actually submitted through Google's site. The student selection process is a very "collaborative" process with all the OpenMRS mentors working together "fighting" over students. :)
20:54:02 <arch> haha.
20:54:04 <downeym> (not really fighting, except in the case of nribeka)
20:54:36 <nribeka> i will fight downeym
20:54:49 <downeym> nribeka: you have to walk over here to do it
20:54:56 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12603]: htmlwidgets: Bug fix to ensure a null collection is created if no values … <>
20:55:01 <nribeka> !beer
20:55:01 <OpenMRSBot> nribeka: (beer <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "action slides $1 a pint".
20:55:22 * downeym drops a hammer on nribeka head
20:57:18 <downeym> !beer nribeka
20:57:18 * OpenMRSBot slides nribeka a pint
20:59:04 <r-friedman> who mentioned grameen?
20:59:15 <arch> nribeka did
20:59:30 <downeym> mifos is a GSoC organization this year
20:59:33 <r-friedman> nribeka, how do you know them?
20:59:35 <nribeka> grameen is on the mentoring org r-friedman
21:00:07 <r-friedman> I know they are doing an Open MRS cell app re antenatal care in Ghana
21:00:10 <nribeka> i met them in the implementers conference last time r-friedman
21:00:48 <r-friedman> nribeka, what do you know about grameen?
21:01:16 <r-friedman> there was a big phone call among donors and us the other day and EMR in Ghana came up and that can't be anything but them
21:01:18 <nribeka> i think they are working with uni of maine working that Ghana project r-friedman
21:01:28 <r-friedman> oh, I met the U of Maine guy
21:01:43 <nribeka> yep
21:02:00 <r-friedman> Ghana is one of my responsibilities
21:02:53 <r-friedman> there's a lot going on there, there's a guy from Leeds University who wants to have an Open MRS group
21:03:16 <downeym> ahh, leeds
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21:03:41 <downeym> hi ruwan_
21:03:46 <r-friedman> why ahhest thous downeym
21:03:55 <r-friedman> *thou
21:04:16 <downeym> i was looking for that person's name
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21:05:12 <nribeka> yeah, i read that email too r-friedman
21:05:14 <r-friedman> julius awakame
21:06:36 <downeym> r-friedman: thanks :)
21:08:41 <r-friedman> i've been chatting with him, but haven't been able to open up a conversation with the grameen person, Aliyah Walji
21:09:25 <downeym> Does anyone know a contact at Grameen for their Uganda SMS program?
21:10:08 <nribeka> i think aliyah have a skype, you can't contact her on her skype r-friedman?
21:10:16 <nribeka> it's listed on the wiki user i think
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21:11:34 <r-friedman> Bruce MacLeod is the U Southern Maine guy, <his last name>
21:12:42 <r-friedman> aliyah is her name with a dot between @gmail
21:15:17 * nribeka is writing javadocs and it is so painful ...
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21:20:05 <r-friedman> nribeka, you've heard about the program for writing javadocs?
21:23:30 <nribeka> what program r-friedman? i use eclipse
21:23:42 <r-friedman> it's called gsoc
21:23:49 <nribeka> r-friedman, lol
21:24:07 <nribeka> i need dragon --> speech to text
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21:25:29 <downeym> nribeka: use iphone
21:25:37 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12604]: reporting: Bug fix for cohortDefinitionEditor so that it does not show … <>
21:27:26 <nribeka> downeym, i have a bad english lol
21:28:38 <downeym> nribeka: no you don't
21:29:41 <r-friedman> better than burke, he only speaks groovy these days
21:29:51 <nribeka> lol
21:29:54 <downeym> ekrub speaks backwards
21:30:24 <r-friedman> urkbay speaks pig latin
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21:31:52 <r-friedman> ++yenwod
21:32:01 <yenwod> drats
21:32:08 <yenwod> downeym++
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21:33:23 <winwinmoron> nribeka++
21:33:32 <winwinmoron> hahaha ... i can use this to increase my karma
21:33:37 <winwinmoron> !karma nribeka
21:33:37 <OpenMRSBot> winwinmoron: Karma for "nribeka" has been increased 8 times and decreased 8 times for a total karma of 0.
21:33:51 <winwinmoron> downeym++
21:33:52 <yenwod> lol
21:33:55 <yenwod> !karma downeym
21:33:55 <OpenMRSBot> yenwod: Karma for "downeym" has been increased 9 times and decreased 4 times for a total karma of 5.
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21:36:55 <robbyoconnor> ....ok
21:36:57 <robbyoconnor> that's weird
21:37:07 <robbyoconnor> it was one rogue object!
21:39:00 <r-friedman> !beer robbyoconnor
21:39:00 * OpenMRSBot slides robbyoconnor a pint
21:39:49 <robbyoconnor> i dunno what's up...
21:42:41 <robbyoconnor> ok... this is weird
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22:51:34 <ricardosbarbosa> will the ones that are boolean continue boolean after 'Boolean concept' implemented?
22:52:00 <ricardosbarbosa> ow will they be like a new "boolean type"
22:52:02 <ricardosbarbosa> ?
22:52:54 <ricardosbarbosa> *or
22:56:26 <winwinmoron> all value boolean will become coded ricardosbarbosa
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23:02:50 <ricardosbarbosa> like one number!
23:02:54 <ricardosbarbosa> ?
23:03:12 <ricardosbarbosa> 1-true 2-false 3-other 4-other ...
23:03:13 <ricardosbarbosa> ?
23:09:53 <winwinmoron> the boolean concept is for the observations ricardosbarbosa
23:10:08 <winwinmoron> so, right now inside the obs object we have value boolean
23:10:50 <winwinmoron> but this is not extend-able. like the smoker example in the project page
23:11:16 <winwinmoron> ttyp ricardosbarbosa
23:11:18 <winwinmoron> off :)
23:11:23 <ricardosbarbosa> im herre
23:11:27 <winwinmoron> we can chat later on. around 1h or so :)
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23:12:47 <ricardosbarbosa> hummmmm i got the idea
23:14:20 <ricardosbarbosa> wheres smoker example?
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23:27:32 <ricardosbarbosa> i found the smoker example ahuahua :D
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