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01:23:44 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #2104 (defect closed): Image on Home Page not appearing correctly <>
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01:39:24 <siri1> !logs
01:39:24 <OpenMRSBot> siri1: "logs" --- The OpenMRS IRC logs are publicly displayed online:
01:55:48 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12447]: webservices.jaxws.api: modifications to UserDTO so that the associated … <>
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03:42:37 <upul`> hi downeym
03:42:40 <downeym> hey upul`
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04:23:56 <Shazin> HI All
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05:53:05 <judywawira> hello everyone...
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06:21:34 <judywawira> has anyone encountered this error in eclipse...WARNING: No build properties found
06:21:37 <judywawira> WARNING: No build properties found
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06:44:52 <mathiaslin> judywawira: it's just a warning, not an error - can you still build?
06:45:07 <mathiaslin> does exist in the openmrs project directory root?
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07:18:38 <judywawira> i wasnt able to build the module...has a million and one errors on it
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07:44:03 <judywawira> IS IT LIKE PMTCT, ETC
07:44:40 <njero> judywawira: we do both
07:44:57 <judywawira> ??
07:45:02 <njero> we have HIV PROGRAM, TB PROGRAM, PMTCT PROGRAM, and a couple others
07:45:33 <judywawira> OK..
07:46:21 <pascal`> judywawira, a program is whatever you'd like it to be
07:47:38 <judywawira> lets explore this ..program state and workflows...
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07:48:03 <judywawira> i am working on something for mental health teh program would be PSYCHIATRY i suppose..
07:49:31 <pascal`> judywawira, the idea is to design the program/workflows in openmrs to match what's happening in the facility
07:49:46 <judywawira> in this program a patient can be seen as outpatient, inpatient, clinic ..or admit in a rehabilitation center
07:49:58 <judywawira> so i assume this is the state or teh workflow??
07:50:00 <judywawira> ??
07:50:12 <pascal`> well, there are many ways you could model it
07:50:34 <pascal`> so, you could have a MENTAL HEALTH program
07:50:37 <judywawira> i am lstening
07:50:40 <judywawira> yes
07:50:47 <judywawira> sorry i am reading
07:50:50 <pascal`> within that program, you could have a TRACKING STATUS workflow
07:51:16 <pascal`> and possible states within that workflow could be INPATIENT, OUTPATIENT, CLINIC or IN REHAB
07:51:47 <pascal`> that's just one suggestion, it would be best to model it as closely as possible to the actual functioning of the facility
07:52:03 <judywawira> ok..
07:52:07 <judywawira> what abt the states??
07:52:20 <pascal`> you could also, say, have another workflow in the MENTAL HEALTH prgram called TREATMENT STATUS
07:52:43 <judywawira> aha
07:52:49 <pascal`> which could have possible states: ON MEDS, NOT ON MEDS, LOST TO FOLLOWUP
07:52:53 <pascal`> or whatever else
07:53:13 <pascal`> so, workflows are just different pieces of information you'd like to keep about patients
07:53:31 <pascal`> and the states are they actual "values" which are assigned to each patient?
07:53:38 <pascal`> starting to make more sense?
07:54:01 <pascal`> I would suggest playing around a bit and seeing what makes sense for your purposes
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07:58:34 <judywawira> thanks pascal
08:00:58 <pascal`> np judywawira
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09:54:21 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Modules: XForms 3.8.5 uploaded to OpenMRS Module Repository <>
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12:31:08 <judywawira> @bwolfe: are you it possible to enable and disable buttons on htmlforms....based on like what the uer checks??? if YES enable some questions and disable others
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12:31:39 <bwolfe> judywawira: not sure. I've asked for it, but I don't know thats its implemented
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12:38:35 <ruwan> what exactly is needed to be done now..?
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12:40:49 <ruwan> never got a feedback on the second patch.. just wondering..
12:47:29 <pascal`> ruwan, you'll need to ask ben or darius
12:47:34 <pascal`> ruwan, they won't be reading this
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12:47:57 <chopin> hi ho
12:48:00 <pascal`> hey chopin
12:48:24 <chopin> good day pascal` ... anything new?
12:48:50 <pascal`> not much chopin, you?
12:49:38 * chopin wonders why org.openmrs.api.impl.PatientServiceImpl#checkPatientIdentifiers throws a DuplicateIdentifierException
12:50:00 <chopin> otherwise, i'm perfect :-)
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12:52:47 <Echidna> or so you think
12:53:36 * chopin watches his back, runs to a mtg w/ ampath
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12:54:48 <pascal`> chopin, you're wondering about the code, or you're seeing it happen?
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12:58:57 <chopin> pascal`: wondering why it's there :-/
12:58:58 <chopin> brb
12:59:14 <pascal`> hey downeym
13:00:05 <downeym> hi pascal`
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13:00:34 <Echidna> chopin_: that didnt really answer the the question =O
13:00:38 <Echidna> could mean either
13:01:03 <pascal`> I see what you mean in the devlist mail
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13:02:40 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #1111 (defect closed): Various errors associated with Excel Cohort Reports <> || OpenMRS Forum: Re: Demo-1.6.0.sql <>
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13:04:44 <chopin_> Echidna: hah, woops
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13:08:31 <pascal`> hey bwolfe
13:08:39 <bwolfe> hi pascal`
13:22:09 <downeym> hello mathiaslin and zr0bert
13:24:51 <mathiaslin> hi downeym
13:36:40 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12448]: webservices.jaxws.api: modified toString methods in various DTOs <> || OpenMRS Forum: Re: Demo-1.6.0.sql <>
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13:45:54 <downeym> hi openmrs_web350
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13:46:01 <mrosas> hey
13:46:36 <Shazin> HI
13:46:38 <mrosas> i want to log a module, i copied the way openmrs logs, and put something like this on my module
13:46:49 <mrosas> private Log log = LogFactory.getLog(this.getClass());
13:46:58 <mrosas> log.debug("TEST")
13:47:22 <mrosas> but i don't know which config file should i change in order to make it to log into a txt file
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13:50:13 <bwolfe> mrosas: log4j.xml
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13:50:32 <bwolfe> put that xml file into your metadata folder in your module
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13:50:52 <mrosas> ok cool, and the code i copied to make it log, is it ok?
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13:51:36 <Shazin> Hi Does OpenMRS Use a Modified Hibernate Jar
13:51:38 <Shazin> ?
13:51:55 <bwolfe> mrosas: yeah, if you have DEBUG enabled
13:52:00 <bwolfe> Shazin: yes
13:52:20 <mrosas> yea i'm debugging my module into eclipse right now
13:53:36 <Shazin> bwolfe: Cool :)
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13:54:18 <bwolfe> Shazin: I forget why. there should be a readme in the hibernate lib folder
13:54:30 <pascal`> hi jmiranda
13:54:54 <jmiranda> hey pascal`
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13:55:49 <downeym> hi Echidna
13:58:05 <mrosas> bwolfe: when uploading the module with de log4j.xml, i got an exception
13:58:26 <mrosas> here it is
13:58:27 <mrosas>
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13:59:42 <downeym> hi g_khatwani123
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14:01:08 <g_khatwani123> i am not able to download billing module completely. receiving an error that "it may locked by external resources, to download it should be unlocked". Please help me to know the solution
14:01:42 <Shazin> bwolfe: You are correct. I should read more
14:02:11 <g_khatwani123> @downeym:i am not able to download billing module completely. receiving an error that "it may locked by external resources, to download it should be unlocked". Please help me to know the solution
14:02:35 <downeym> g_khatwani123: From where are you trying to download? URL?
14:02:48 <g_khatwani123> through eclipse
14:04:05 <g_khatwani123> @downeym:through eclipse. i have succesfully downloaded openmrs-trunk but i am recieving an error for billing module
14:04:48 <downeym> g_khatwani123: as far as I know, Saptarshi is working on that. Suggest you contact him:
14:05:11 <bwolfe> g_khatwani123: yeah, I don't know whats up with that
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14:05:28 <bwolfe> g_khatwani123: it did that to me last week when I tried to check it out
14:06:14 <Echidna> you are not worthy =)
14:06:38 <g_khatwani123> @bwolfe:so what u did for it to download. Have u downloaded it now succesfully
14:06:59 <bwolfe> g_khatwani123: I have never downloaded it
14:07:09 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #2060 (task closed): Change Browser Title on Patient Dashbboard <> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12450]: Changed browser title on patient dashboard to optionally contain patient … <> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12449]: ui.springmvc module: adding openmrs jar files to lib-common <>
14:07:12 <bwolfe> g_khatwani123: as downeym said, you'll have to check with saptarshi
14:07:23 <bwolfe> they will probably have to reupload their code :-/
14:07:30 <bwolfe> because I don't know another way around it
14:07:32 <bwolfe> brb
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14:07:41 <downeym> hi slin1
14:08:16 <slin1> downeym: hello
14:08:27 <g_khatwani123> @downeym:whether any thing else other than billing module and openmrs-trunk to be downloaded to work on billing module.
14:10:06 <g_khatwani123> @downeym:whether any thing else other than billing module and openmrs-trunk to be downloaded to work on billing module.
14:11:04 <downeym> g_khatwani123: You need to check with Saptarshi on that, that is his project and I don't know much about it.
14:11:38 <g_khatwani123> @downeym:ok thanks
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14:11:39 <slin1> downeym: I have gone through the logs of last year's feb and march... and didnt understand this-->Is it mandatory to solve or fix some of the bugs or tickets inorder to get the project?
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14:38:56 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #2107 (defect closed): NoClassDefFoundError following deploy-web <>
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15:10:40 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12451]: generate web jar for third party module <>
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15:18:03 <chopin_> who's up for managing the openmrs maven repo? ;-)
15:18:33 <downeym> chopin_: nice of you to volunteer
15:18:58 * chopin_ had his finger on his nose already
15:19:06 <chopin_> s/on/up
15:19:19 <downeym> heh
15:20:12 <chopin_> it's fairly self-sustaining ... just need to limit upload rights
15:20:20 <chopin_> and it would be nice to have one for modules
15:20:35 <chopin_> although ... those are tricky
15:20:49 <chopin_> since we don't really need them as JARs necessarily
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16:07:20 <g_khatwani123> @downeym: u toldme contact Sunbiz but he does not seems to be available currently on irc list of openmrs. so any other contacts?
16:08:43 <downeym> g_khatwani123: I would try e-mail
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16:45:08 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12458]: Chica -- chica Ticket #239 <> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12457]: update pom for basic module <> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12456]: ATD - Chica Ticket #239 <> || OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #2150 (task created): htmlformentry: investigate using htmlwidgets module <> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12455]: remove idea module file <> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12454]: remove idea folder <> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12453]: basic module sample <> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12452]: basic module sample <>
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17:00:30 <chopin> anyone joining us for code review today: skype voice call to freeconferencing and enter code 305801
17:00:41 * chopin points at jmiranda
17:00:51 <chopin> ;-)
17:00:56 <jmiranda> chopin, pointing is rude
17:01:01 <chopin> hah
17:01:09 <chopin> i know you're not expected on the call, no worries
17:01:21 <jmiranda> no, unfortunately i have a demo in an hour
17:01:25 <jmiranda> so i'm out
17:01:30 <chopin> np, have phun
17:01:51 <chopin> looking forward to seeing "the gang" this wk
17:02:34 <jmiranda> chopin, yeah ... i am looking forward to meeting you guys
17:02:44 <jmiranda> the new guys, i mean
17:03:11 <chopin> not sure why sy and wyclif don't chill in here
17:03:17 * chopin beats 'em
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17:04:13 <jmiranda> would rather just go out and get beers with you guys, watch the ncaa tournament ... and let the old guys do the heavy lifting / roadmap stuff
17:04:45 <chopin> sirrusly
17:17:11 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #2151 (task created): Setting a global property to convert the case of program/workflow/state <>
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17:49:12 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12460]: reporting: Fixed issue with the spring-form.tld tag library inclusion … <> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12459]: ATD -- chica Ticket #239 <>
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18:21:15 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12462]: reporting: fixed a sql grammar exception in InStateCohortDefinition <> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12461]: reporting: Change CohortIndicatorEvaluator to automatically limit … <>
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18:52:20 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12463]: reporting: Add built-in inverse property to EncounterCohortDefinition <>
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19:21:54 <njero> hey jmiranda: have a quick voided/retired question
19:22:30 <jmiranda> njero, sure ... what's up?
19:22:49 <njero> Suppose you had an obs with value_coded = 12345, but then you retired concept 12345. Next time you pull that obs... what should happen... should it find its concept or not?
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19:24:56 <njero> hey bwolfe you might want in on this question... so I will repeat
19:24:58 <njero> Suppose you had an obs with value_coded = 12345, but then you retired concept 12345. Next time you pull that obs... what should happen... should it find its concept or not?
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19:25:50 <bwolfe> I say yes
19:26:45 <njero> there are a ton of situations like this... when something gets voided/retired without cascading to everything else... but there are really two broad categories: things like encounter -> obs where an obs might get voided without affecting the encounter, and things like obs -> encounter where it has the specific encounter_id inside it so you would expect that to always resolve even if the encounter (and possibly the obs) are voi
19:26:47 <njero> ded
19:27:04 <njero> the categories are has_many, and belongs_to...
19:27:09 <njero> or parent / child
19:27:59 <njero> The rule I am thinking: the child should always find its parent regardless of retired/voided. The parent should not find voided children by default.
19:28:29 <njero> is that sane?
19:29:46 <jmiranda> njero, sorry (just started a demo) ... i'll answer in a few minutes
19:29:51 <njero> np
19:31:25 <njero> bwolfe: ?
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19:38:03 <bwolfe> njero: that is sane
19:38:18 <njero> cool
19:38:19 <bwolfe> njero: but what kind of relationship are you considering obs --> concept (via valueCoded)
19:38:44 <njero> there are tons of these kind of quesitons...
19:38:59 <njero> the area that kicked it off for me was actually order <=> obs
19:39:16 <njero> obs has order_id, order has obs_id
19:39:41 <njero> it is easy to void one and not the other on accident... but then what do you do
19:40:18 <njero> I think you should still get to the order/obs by default... even though you may be accessing something that was voided
19:41:04 <njero> obs concept is another big one... or obs => value_coded_name_id ...
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19:41:21 <njero> OpenMRSBot: you are supposed to say hey to downeym
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19:41:28 <njero> OpenMRSBot: neither is you.
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19:41:32 <downeym> lol
19:42:34 <bwolfe> lol
19:43:12 <downeym> OpenMRSBot--
19:43:15 <njero> serious
19:43:17 <njero> :)
19:43:33 <bwolfe> njero: ok, so here is model:
19:43:44 <bwolfe> concept actually gets retired, not voided. voided and retired mean different things
19:44:07 <bwolfe>
19:44:10 <OpenMRSBot> <> (at
19:44:19 <bwolfe> a void means that it was never valid. a retire means that it isn't valid anymore
19:44:40 <bwolfe> so an obs can still reference a retired concept and can still see it if you pull up the obs
19:44:59 <bwolfe> an obs should not see/reference a voided order. and a voided order should not see a voided obs
19:45:23 <njero> hmmm
19:45:38 <njero> that makes sense
19:45:59 <njero> so in the event of the obs/order thing... the reference should die by defualt?
19:47:18 <njero> I think my rule still applies, and that it just coincidentally works out for the voided/retired paradigm
19:49:23 <bwolfe> njero: I don't know that you delete obs.order_id if you void the order, but you should just not display it.
19:50:56 <njero> What if the obs itself is voided?
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19:54:09 <bwolfe> njero: you mean if both the obs and order are voided and are referencing each other? thats the ideal world. :-)
19:54:42 <njero> my point being that it is crazy logic to check the local voided flag before checking the remote
19:55:30 <bwolfe> I'm not following
19:55:32 <njero> this is just a confusing area to have sane defaults
19:56:10 <njero> well, if you are viewing "deleted" data and both obs and order are voided... you want to see them and for them to see each other
19:56:27 <njero> however, you probably also want to see the stuff that wasn't deleted...
19:56:30 <njero> it is weird
19:56:35 <njero> I am confusing myself
19:57:16 <njero> can't you just tell me these are edge cases and /kickban me? :)
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19:57:54 *** njero was kicked by bwolfe (those are edge cases)
19:57:57 <bwolfe> :-D
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19:59:05 <njero> lol
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19:59:22 <OpenMRSBot> <> (at
20:00:21 <bwolfe> :-D
20:00:37 <njero> bwolfe: I think I am going with my rule... it has problems but I really do think / hope they are edge cases
20:00:50 <bwolfe> njero: a user should never be able to view a voided (aka deleted) piece of data, so really that situation you're referring to should never happen
20:01:15 <njero> hmm, they can in ours... maybe thats a problem
20:01:24 <njero> data managers can unvoid things
20:01:33 <bwolfe> a voided foreign object should not be shown regardless of whether the local object is voided.......but you don't have to worry about that because you will never be viewing a local voided object! :-)
20:01:47 <bwolfe> yes, you can "see" the object once you unvoid it
20:01:55 <njero> okay
20:02:02 <njero> I can try that too
20:02:08 <njero> we'll see what goes crazy :)
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20:29:51 <njero> bwolfe: why do concept_names get voided by concepts get retired?
20:30:06 <bwolfe> an excellent question
20:30:12 <bwolfe> the answer is...
20:30:17 <bwolfe> "because"
20:30:49 <njero> ah, a quality standby answer :)
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