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00:15:54 <downeym> hey nyoman-choma
00:19:33 <nribeka> hi downeym - bot
00:22:59 <downeym> need more pizza :)
00:23:36 <nribeka> hahahahaha ...
00:23:40 <nribeka> need more meat
00:28:48 <bwolfe> greek's pizzeria at the wolfe household in T minus 3 minutes! :-D
00:29:38 <bwolfe> easily the best pizza in Indy, muncie, and bloomington
00:30:57 <downeym> oh man.
00:31:17 <downeym> i had greeks buffet a few times, a few years back, and i was not impressed. but i'm convinced it was an anomaly from what i've heard
00:31:33 <downeym> hot box is hard to beat
00:32:15 <bwolfe> greeks has a buffet??
00:32:22 <downeym> they did a while back
00:32:31 <downeym> like 3 years ago
00:33:02 <bwolfe> hotbox is good...but the sauce on greek's pizza gives it the win
00:34:04 <downeym> so hot box has moved away from openmrs-land
00:34:08 <downeym> to downtown
00:34:34 <bwolfe> wha??
00:34:39 <bwolfe> whats there now?
00:34:47 <downeym> nothing yet
00:34:54 <downeym> i think a domino's is going in there ;)
00:34:57 <downeym> need more pizza in that area
00:34:59 <bwolfe> heh
00:35:05 <downeym> marco's today
00:35:47 <downeym> they have remodeled
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00:48:35 <nribeka> buggss
00:48:42 <nribeka> we need bugggssss
00:48:57 <nribeka> patty melt
00:50:01 <downeym> oh man
00:50:04 <downeym> tomorrow
00:50:44 <nribeka> tomorrow is sleeping day
00:50:51 <andrewaclt> Has anybody seen http://agile.csc.ncsu.edu/healthcare/doku.php#openmrs ?
00:50:54 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/5+7x> (at agile.csc.ncsu.edu)
00:51:45 <downeym> this may be the security study i heard about, burke or ben might know for sure
00:52:52 <andrewaclt> oh okay.
00:53:26 <downeym> very interesting, though
00:57:13 <andrewaclt> Is there anyway the information could be more helpful?
01:00:41 <downeym> the app scan report seems fairly detailed (to me)
01:00:58 <downeym> at least as far as vuln reports go
01:01:38 <downeym> their report to IBM stated that they would work on patches for the high severity issues - not sure if that was done or not
01:01:56 <andrewaclt> It has not.
01:08:07 <downeym> So I know that Burke has been wanting to do a lot more work on security, but so far no one has emerged to really take the lead
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01:08:20 <downeym> It was a big topic at the implementer's meeting last year: http://openmrs.org/wiki/2009_Implementers_Group_Meeting_Program/Security
01:08:21 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/4Anl> (at openmrs.org)
01:11:17 <downeym> if you have any ideas about the report and how we might go about responding & prioritizing it, maybe you can share them on the dev list and we can get it slated for an upcoming meeting in the next couple weeks
01:11:29 <downeym> but it would be great to revive the discussion
01:13:51 <bwolfe> downeym: that ncsu one is different than the other one you're probably thinking of
01:14:05 <downeym> bwolfe: newer?
01:14:30 <bwolfe> nscu is newer than the one that Manico's company did
01:15:14 <downeym> have we done a review of this one?
01:20:06 <bwolfe> nope, first time I'm seeing it
01:20:38 <bwolfe> I talked to a guy last summer (thanks to james egg at RG) and he said they were going to be doing it. we had a few tickets out of them, but that was all I knew of
01:22:15 <downeym> andrewaclt: are you one of the guys in this group? :)
01:37:53 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12303]: visitscheduler: fixing voided Schedules count. <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12303>
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01:56:12 <andrewaclt> downeym, even though you left, yes
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02:07:48 * downeym_mobile forgot his laptop charger at work :)
02:08:04 <andrewaclt> downeym_mobile: Yes, I'm the Andrew from that site
02:08:09 <andrewaclt> and the presentation.
02:08:12 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #2125 (defect closed): The Data Source Report doesn't handle the location column correctly <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/2125#comment:2> || OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #2123 (defect closed): The Data Source Report doesn't include zero-occurrence app/fac/loc combinations <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/2123#comment:2> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12305]: ncd: #2123 #2125 fixes to the data source report. <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12305> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12304]: ncd: #2124 fixed a problem where too many rows were still being created. <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12304>
02:08:43 <downeym_mobile> Excellent - we're glad you're here :)
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02:50:13 * Mkop has officially started spring break. with a budweiser and some mozart
02:51:09 <upul`> what about vivaldi's four seasons
02:52:27 <Mkop> maybe that'll be next
02:53:07 <Mkop> you know what, I'm gonna switch into my Ubuntu VM and build NetBSD
02:53:13 <Mkop> (It's my linux/unix homework)
02:53:22 <Mkop> but suitable for spring break :-)
03:12:01 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Forum: Re: External Application and org.openmrs.web.OpenmrsFilter <http://forum.openmrs.org/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=573#p2124>
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04:16:05 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Forum: Re: Configuring an External Web Application <http://forum.openmrs.org/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=573#p2125>
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07:58:23 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12308]: logmanager: fixed appenders not being removed from loggers when unchecked … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12308> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12307]: logmanager: added check for MEMORY_APPENDER on module startup <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12307> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12306]: logmanager: fixed null pointer exception if org.hibernate.SQL doesn't … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12306>
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10:36:34 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Forum: Re: Problem after deploying OpenMRS <http://forum.openmrs.org/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=561#p2126>
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13:24:06 <downeym> hey fred
13:24:22 * chopin looks around
13:24:25 <downeym> hi zabil :)
13:24:34 * downeym looks at chopin
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13:24:58 <Zabil> hi downeym
13:25:09 <downeym> Frédéric
13:25:35 <chopin> o, right ...
13:25:39 * chopin only answers to his full name
13:25:46 <downeym> Fryderyk Franciszek Chopin?
13:25:56 <chopin> yes?
13:26:02 <downeym> hey
13:26:05 <downeym> ;)
13:26:31 <Echidna> fryderyk skynyrd
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13:46:53 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Forum: Re: Configuring an External Web Application <http://forum.openmrs.org/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=573#p2127>
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14:12:25 <chopin> downeym: what's the magic needed to get only blog updates in a feed?
14:13:29 <downeym> what, with blogger?
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14:16:16 <chopin> downeym: in reader ... which tags should i specify or un-specify in the openmrs feed?
14:16:58 <downeym> ah... use http://BLOGNAME.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default/-/TAGNAME
14:17:15 <downeym> that will give you a feed of only posts that match TAGNAME
14:17:51 <bwolfe> http://feed.openmrs.org/rss?tag=blog
14:17:57 <chopin> yay thx bwolfe
14:18:01 <chopin> :-D
14:18:02 <bwolfe> downeym: did you add chopin's blog feed?
14:18:10 <downeym> bwolfe: yep
14:18:17 <downeym> chopin: sorry, mis-understood :)
14:18:18 <bwolfe> ah, cool, thanks
14:18:25 <chopin> np!
14:18:54 <bwolfe> fyi, when you add someone to feed you have to also specify the extra tags to apply to each post...like for jeremy he gets "blog, developer, mentor" added
14:19:13 <chopin> oO
14:19:46 <downeym> mental?
14:19:53 <downeym> oh wait, mis-read that :D
14:24:43 <downeym> bwolfe: do you want to mentor 3 or 4 gsoc students this year?
14:25:01 <bwolfe> downeym: maybe 7 or 8
14:25:07 <downeym> i'll put you down for 9
14:25:07 <Echidna> D=
14:25:16 <Echidna> is that even possible
14:25:16 <chopin> omg
14:25:17 <downeym> "stretch goal"
14:25:22 <downeym> bwolfe is super-human
14:25:52 <chopin> if you get enough students, you can feign being busy for all of them
14:26:11 <downeym> if you had 10 students, at 4 hours a week you'd be covered
14:30:53 <Echidna> i thought you need an hour a day per student
14:31:17 <downeym> if that's the case, then he could only do 8
14:32:10 <Echidna> why
14:32:15 <Echidna> a day as 24h, not 8 =P
14:32:19 <downeym> haha
14:32:31 <downeym> that's true, bwolfe works 24h x 7 d
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14:47:27 <chopin> bwolfe should be enjoying his last day off!
14:47:36 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12309]: modified Medications and Orders by Krishnaja <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12309>
14:48:16 <bwolfe> downeym: justin tried to have multiple students a few years back...that was pretty much all he did all summer
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14:48:36 <bwolfe> so we do one student per mentor...even if the mentor thinks they can do more
14:48:59 <downeym> bwolfe: kind of like the students that think they can do >1 project :)
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15:18:58 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Forum: Re: Configuring an External Web Application <http://forum.openmrs.org/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=573#p2128>
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15:50:23 <downeym> hi upul``
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16:03:22 <upul`> hi downeym
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17:21:34 <downeym> hi jiggawagga
17:23:46 <jiggawagga> I'm trying to get Cohort Reports working in OpenMRS and I've added the module but when I try to create a report I get the error could not insert: [org.openmrs.report.ReportSchemaXml]
17:24:13 <jiggawagga> Is this a bug or did I do something wrong when I added the module?
17:25:57 <jiggawagga> bwolfe
17:26:22 <bwolfe> jiggawagga: what version of openmrs are you usin g?
17:26:37 <bwolfe> I'm guessing if you look at the tomcat error log you'd see something about "uuid cannot be null"
17:26:50 <jiggawagga> version 1.6
17:26:52 <bwolfe> this means that the CohortReports module hasn't been upgraded to work with 1.5 and 1.6 of openmrs
17:27:02 <jiggawagga> ah
17:27:02 <bwolfe> make sure you're using the latest Cohort Reports module too
17:28:53 <jiggawagga> I'm pretty sure I've got the latest Cohort Reports module
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17:28:59 <downeym> hi openmrs_web752
17:29:00 <jiggawagga> Its the one that was on the SVN
17:29:33 <zeshan> Hey, I suspect that's Dieterich. He's got some questions on concepts I can't really wrap my head around.
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17:29:40 <zeshan> ... or I thought it was.
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17:29:57 <downeym> hi openmrs_web468
17:30:01 <downeym> :)
17:30:07 <zeshan> It's not my fault!
17:30:10 <openmrs_web468> nick Dieter
17:31:04 * downeym slaps zeshan around a bit with a large trout
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17:32:37 <zeshan> *murph*
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17:35:42 <zeshan> Guys, evidently this is Dieterich's first time to the IRC. Be nice.
17:36:09 <Dieterich> thanks ze
17:37:07 <downeym> hey d
17:38:54 <Dieterich> So, Zeshan and I were having a discussion about how the proposed messaging module should store the messages that it sends and recieves. Initially, I envisioned an abstract class, Message, which would be extended for different message types and stored in its own table in the db, but paul suggested that we create concepts for the message types and store messages as obs.
17:40:20 <Dieterich> I think storing messages as obs is a great idea, but making all the message types into concepts for some reason seems a little weird to me. Am I just biased because I am kind of unfamiliar with this?
17:50:31 <Dieterich> my main concern is that with this framework I wanted to provide a set of classes and interfaces that were extensible, but I don't know if we can achieve that with concepts
17:51:50 <Dieterich> in fact, I don't know if concepts are even extensible
17:52:16 <Dieterich> in any event, I think the best thing may be to take a sort of hybrid approach, becuase I really like the idea of storing messages as obs
17:52:16 <jiggawagga> are there serious errors in v1.4 that will keep it from deploying?
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17:57:00 <bwolfe> jiggawagga: no, should be fine
17:58:45 <bwolfe> Dieterich: wow, PAUL suggested message types be concepts ?!
17:59:08 <zeshan> yeah - let me try and explain.
17:59:08 <bwolfe> I don't like the idea of these be obs...mainly because they aren't observations...not even close really!
18:00:05 <zeshan> Paul suggested that the canned messages (like a help menu message) be a concept, with a concept_name for 'help' (the code that corresponds to the message) and a concept_name_tag that corresponds to it being a code.
18:00:36 <zeshan> I was thinking then that you'd have interactions with the messaging module be an encounter, into which each message sent or received is an observation.
18:00:48 <zeshan> At least, that's what I understood.
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18:01:53 <sunbiz> hey all
18:02:09 <sunbiz> !boom
18:02:09 <OpenMRSBot> sunbiz: "boom" --- BOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!
18:02:32 <zeshan> ... I didn't know the bot did that.
18:03:05 <sunbiz> zeshan: I forget... but bwolfe made the bot do many other tricks
18:03:21 <zeshan> suddenly, it makes sense.
18:03:24 <bwolfe> !moo
18:03:24 <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: "moo" --- MOOOOOOO!!!!!
18:03:36 <sunbiz> ;-)
18:04:09 <zeshan> Ben: does that make sense?
18:05:54 <bwolfe> zeshan: no, not really :-/
18:06:04 <zeshan> well, that helps.
18:06:15 <chopin> !bam
18:06:15 <OpenMRSBot> chopin: Error: "bam" is not a valid command.
18:06:19 <bwolfe> messages might send encounter data or refer to them, but they shouldn't be them or be observations
18:06:19 <chopin> it should be!~
18:06:28 <bwolfe> robby did:
18:06:32 <bwolfe> !baseballgunbat
18:06:32 <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: "baseballgunbat" --- (#1) bwolfe's preferred debugging tool, or (#2) r0bby's preferred weapon as well, or (#3) Mkop's tool of wrath for people who add more deprecation warnings to the pile
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18:06:53 <bwolfe> !learn bam as BAM!
18:06:53 <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: The operation succeeded.
18:06:55 <bwolfe> !bam
18:06:55 <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: "bam" --- BAM!
18:07:00 <chopin> yay
18:07:03 <chopin> !bam
18:07:03 <OpenMRSBot> chopin: "bam" --- BAM!
18:07:14 <zeshan> now you need 'shazam' or something.
18:07:19 <zeshan> or 'abracadabra'
18:07:27 <chopin> that's way too many As
18:07:40 <zeshan> 'open sesame'?
18:07:57 <chopin> ala peanutbutter sandwiches
18:08:40 <chopin> ok, what makes a person/patient unique? first name, middle name, last name, medical record number?
18:08:51 <chopin> how far do we go to find duplicates?
18:09:10 <sunbiz> bwolfe: is that how u r teaching Andy and Eden ??
18:09:34 <downeym> !moo
18:09:34 <OpenMRSBot> downeym: "moo" --- MOOOOOOO!!!!!
18:09:38 <bwolfe> chopin: medical record number
18:09:39 <jiggawagga> bwolfe: I've been sitting here digging through errors and errors trying to get 1.4 to deploy on tomcat. I'm getting the errors you can see here: http://pastie.org/855907
18:09:51 <sunbiz> !learn papa as Ben!
18:09:51 <OpenMRSBot> sunbiz: The operation succeeded.
18:10:03 <sunbiz> did the bot learn??
18:10:04 <downeym> zeshan: did you scare D off?
18:10:07 <sunbiz> !papa
18:10:07 <OpenMRSBot> sunbiz: "papa" --- Ben!
18:10:07 <chopin> bwolfe: think that's all though?
18:10:21 <sunbiz> yes, it did leanr
18:10:45 <bwolfe> jiggawagga: "Error connecting to database"
18:10:53 <sunbiz> !unlearn papa
18:10:53 <OpenMRSBot> sunbiz: Error: "unlearn" is not a valid command.
18:11:18 <jiggawagga> You know what would cause that? Cause when i deploy 1.6 it does it just fine
18:11:22 <bwolfe> jiggawagga: openmrs might not be finding your runtime properties
18:11:46 <downeym> robbyoconnor: Why are we not on your list?
18:12:05 <robbyoconnor> I shall add.
18:12:07 <bwolfe> jiggawagga: 1.4 doesn't start if you have &sessionVariables=storage_engine=InnoDB&useUnicode=true&characterEncoding=UTF-8 in your runtime properties
18:12:20 <robbyoconnor> downeym: because you didn't add yourselves :P
18:12:29 <robbyoconnor> I wasn't gonna arbitrarily add it :P
18:12:44 <downeym> robbyoconnor: i joined the thread too late, clearly :)
18:13:20 <robbyoconnor> http://spreadsheets.google.com/gform?key=0AldXhTCPNJoYdC1YelVTR2FNb0pJTTlsUG1DTVZlekE&hl=en&gridId=0#edit
18:13:22 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/5+Q+> (at spreadsheets.google.com)
18:13:25 <robbyoconnor> er doh
18:13:26 <robbyoconnor> holsd
18:13:36 <downeym> holsding
18:13:49 <robbyoconnor> http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dC1YelVTR2FNb0pJTTlsUG1DTVZlekE6MA
18:13:51 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/5+QA> (at spreadsheets.google.com)
18:13:52 <robbyoconnor> there you go :)
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18:16:01 <robbyoconnor> I removed a junk response just before
18:16:12 <robbyoconnor> students need to grow up
18:16:26 * downeym waits for google docs to update
18:18:28 <robbyoconnor> wtf
18:18:51 <sunbiz> robbyoconnor: wtf??
18:19:21 <robbyoconnor> sunbiz: I had a junk response in there
18:19:30 <robbyoconnor> and students went and edited it themselves
18:19:36 <robbyoconnor> (which i swore i didn't allow)
18:19:42 <robbyoconnor> but i guess i did..
18:19:45 <sunbiz> hehehe... good going!!
18:20:02 <downeym> collaboration ftw
18:20:07 <chopin> ftl
18:20:12 <robbyoconnor> downeym: I dont trust students :)
18:20:17 <downeym> chopin: depends on whose side you're on :)
18:20:20 <robbyoconnor> :)
18:20:21 <chopin> true
18:20:28 <downeym> robbyoconnor: how about i just fill the form :D
18:20:57 <robbyoconnor> i suppose
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18:21:55 <downeym> robbyoconnor: that was much more painless
18:22:14 <downeym> robbyoconnor: except now we're on it twice
18:23:01 <robbyoconnor> I did it once to see
18:23:30 <robbyoconnor> i need to find a good project for me :) \
18:23:34 <robbyoconnor> :X\
18:23:57 * robbyoconnor gets bwolfe some food sedatives to take for the duration of summer of code :-)
18:25:24 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Forum: Re: Configuring an External Web Application <http://forum.openmrs.org/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=573#p2129>
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18:29:05 <robbyoconnor> I love how people ask to edit it :x
18:30:48 <downeym> zeshan: WP says GSM modem is en route from kenya
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18:42:01 <nribeka> aha ... bwolfe is here :)
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18:42:41 <downeym> hey win-rar
18:42:51 <nribeka> ah downeym - bot is here too
18:42:53 <nribeka> :D
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18:57:26 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12310]: in patientmatching module, removed module's log file Appender when running … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12310>
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20:53:34 <downeym> hi r0bby|android
20:53:48 <r0bby|android> Greeeeetings
20:54:23 * downeym finishes http://openmrs.org/wiki/Summer_of_Code_2010
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21:05:42 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12311]: logic: remove println from the hibernate files <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12311> || OpenMRS Forum: Re: Problem after deploying OpenMRS <http://forum.openmrs.org/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=561#p2131> || OpenMRS Forum: Re: Configuring an External Web Application <http://forum.openmrs.org/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=573#p2130>
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22:57:40 <downeym> happy week-end, all
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