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00:15:17 <downeym> hi Mkop
00:17:11 <jmiranda> njero, just got back, but heading out in a few minutes
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00:33:40 <Mkop> hey downeym
00:34:13 <bwolfe> njero: in and out
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00:37:56 <downeym> o.O
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00:40:01 <Mkop> bwolfe: that's what she said
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00:43:43 <bwolfe> Mkop: wow
00:43:56 <Mkop> sorry
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00:54:33 <Mkop> how was he able to join before?
00:57:09 <robbyoconnor> wrong hostmask
00:57:10 <robbyoconnor> :)
00:57:12 <robbyoconnor> I'd guess.
00:57:58 <downeym> defies logic :)
00:58:12 <bwolfe> apparently the ucla wireless sucks
00:58:28 <downeym> heh
01:14:58 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12256]: reporting: tagging reporting trunk as 0.4.0-alpha <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12256> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12255]: reporting: Created tags folder for tagging releases. <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12255>
01:46:59 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #2117 (task created): ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException during authentication in rest module <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/2117> || OpenMRS Forum: Re: Sending open MRS HL7 Messages <http://forum.openmrs.org/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=440#p2115>
01:53:44 <njero> bwolfe: are you at ucla?
01:54:17 <njero> oh.. eSRifvto is if I deduce correctly
01:54:39 <downeym> njero: you deduce correctly :)
01:59:27 <njero> downeym: who is eSRifvto?
01:59:34 <downeym> no clue
02:03:13 <njero> downeym: are you at regenstrief?
02:04:02 <downeym> njero: yes
02:04:11 <downeym> njero: & bwolfe too
02:04:18 <njero> ah... I knew bwolfe was
02:04:23 <njero> have you been there a while?
02:05:16 <downeym> not too long :)
02:05:35 <njero> aha... are you a student or faculty? Not sure if that distinction applies in RI
02:06:30 <downeym> not exactly, as RI is not part of the university officially, but i'm a grad student & employee
02:06:50 <njero> very cool
02:07:46 <downeym> some of us are also students, and some are also faculty, and some are neither :)
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02:08:16 <downeym> hi nribeka
02:08:24 <nribeka> hi downeym
02:12:11 <njero> So I was going to bug bwolfe or jmiranda about it... but maybe I will bug you guys :)
02:12:21 <Mkop> what is RI exactly? a research institute?
02:13:00 <njero> I thought there was a plan / ticket at some point about de-coupling the inheritance on orders and drug_order and making it a proper one to many... but I couldn't find anything like that
02:13:26 <njero> Right now, as near as I can tell, there is no way to group a set of orders
02:14:22 <downeym> Mkop: http://www.regenstrief.org/medinformatics/openmrs
02:14:26 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/58S9> (at www.regenstrief.org)
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02:17:28 <Mkop> quick sql question if any of you feel like answering:
02:17:36 <Mkop> is there any way to turn a list like {A, A, A, B, C, A, B} to {A: 4, B: 2, C: 1} using an sql statement?
02:17:38 <Mkop> or can you only count one thing at once?
02:18:25 <njero> Mkop is the list rows?
02:18:30 <Mkop> yes
02:18:47 <njero> select col, count(*) from table group by col;
02:18:59 <Mkop> hmmm
02:19:05 <Mkop> let me try that
02:21:20 <jmiranda> njero, you want to have multiple drug_order rows per orders row?
02:21:33 <njero> jmiranda: yeah
02:21:42 <njero> or something outside of that... order_group
02:21:43 <jmiranda> i'm not sure if we have ever discussed modeling it that way
02:22:07 <jmiranda> yeah, i think a grouping would be better
02:22:13 <njero> I thought in 1.5 a lot of the inheritance stuff was taken out
02:22:40 <njero> the problem with a group.. is then I want obs to be able to point to obs.order_group_id
02:23:29 <Mkop> njero: yay, that worked! (in my simple query). Now to figure out how to get it to work in my complicated query with 5 joins...
02:23:48 <njero> Mkop: thats more fun :)
02:24:27 <njero> jmiranda: basically we have this concept of a drug_order that we have to split out to 4 drug orders... Morning Afternoon Evening Night... which is not ideal...
02:24:47 <jmiranda> njero, the only inheritance stuff that i think went away was person/patient/user in v1.6
02:24:49 <njero> but then things get even harder whn trying to group them and make observations about the "collected" order
02:25:15 <jmiranda> njero, yes, i hate the obs_group and order_group ideas
02:25:32 <njero> you hate them?
02:26:03 <jmiranda> well, sorry ... you're just bringing up some bad memories re: drug regimens
02:26:10 <njero> heh
02:26:15 <njero> tell me about it
02:26:15 <njero> :)
02:26:52 <njero> fwiw, I had _considered_ using an obs_group to put together a group of orders
02:27:04 <njero> I was trying to think about the ramifications of that
02:27:08 <jmiranda> and there's a lot of metadata and logic that would be a lot easier to encapsulate if there was a concrete entity for some of these things
02:27:27 <jmiranda> yeah, that would be my thought
02:27:39 <jmiranda> or encounter (yikes)
02:27:49 <njero> Well, we already have that to a degree
02:28:06 <njero> the problem is that it is really convienient to be able to make an obs about an order_id
02:28:41 <njero> it solves lots of questions about where do you put data for dispensations, adherence, etc etc... but these order groups... grr
02:30:44 <njero> an alternative we have been talking about is to have a "head/master order" in these cases... which will contain equivalent daily dose total for the whole set.
02:30:51 * njero goes back to rethinking things
02:31:14 <nribeka> njero, are you working on something related to drug dispensing?
02:31:16 <jmiranda> hmm
02:31:40 <jmiranda> send out an email to dev to discuss your use cases and maybe we can push this through on a design or dev call
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02:32:13 <Mkop> whoohoo! yay for Microsoft Access! It really does make constructing SQL statements easier
02:32:19 <njero> nribeka: yep
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02:32:36 <njero> nribeka: we are just finishing up our touchscreen ART system in Neno
02:32:56 <nribeka> wow interesting
02:33:11 <nribeka> ampath is really interested in drug dispensing system
02:33:40 <nribeka> there's a plan to record all drug dispensing from the pharmacy system
02:33:46 <jmiranda> njero, yeah i've never given drug dispensing any thought
02:34:18 <nribeka> the current system is pretty much form entry stuff
02:34:26 <nribeka> they use access right now
02:34:27 <njero> nribeka: Baobab has been doing dispensing in lilongwe for 3-4 years now
02:34:48 <njero> for PIH we are trying to take that, simplify and make it a little more openmrs-y
02:34:50 <jmiranda> so the Morning, Afternoon, Evening, Night example would probably be very illuminating
02:34:50 <nribeka> are those modules for openmrs?
02:35:03 <njero> nribeka: not exactly
02:35:07 <nribeka> ah ...
02:35:22 <njero> nribeka: we are developing for Ruby on Rails and going against the database directly
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02:35:40 <nribeka> so, not going through openmrs api?
02:35:42 <njero> turning them into modules though is a kind of longer term goal
02:35:42 <jmiranda> nribeka, same data model
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02:35:52 <njero> lol @ ucla
02:35:56 <jmiranda> (or close ... maybe a few version behind)
02:36:03 <jmiranda> njero, 1.4?
02:36:13 <njero> jmiranda: no, we are on 1.5 with tesing 1.6 partially done
02:36:18 <jmiranda> sweet
02:36:31 <njero> Evan has been amzing at keeping us up to date
02:36:48 <njero> Evan is basically one of the best project managers ever.
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02:37:07 <nribeka> mkulumadzi njero?
02:37:12 <jmiranda> njero, evan's pretty much the best at whatever he does :)
02:37:25 <njero> nribeka: yes mkulumdzi
02:37:27 <nribeka> hm ... i wonder if we can take a look at baobab system
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02:37:50 <njero> nribeka: I have a slightly outdated version of what we are doing here: http://mateme.socialrange.org
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02:38:50 <jmiranda> downeym, what did UK0IqPtB ever do to you?
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02:39:20 <jmiranda> leave the poor kid alone
02:39:27 <downeym> Trying something
02:39:31 <nribeka> hahahahaha ...
02:39:32 <nribeka> lol
02:39:39 <nribeka> username and password njero
02:39:39 <nribeka> :)
02:39:45 <downeym> :)
02:40:09 <njero> nribeka: demo, demo, use location 7 or location 10
02:40:19 <njero> I need to reset some global properties there :)
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02:43:08 <downeym> still connected
02:43:32 <downeym> just joining and parting
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02:51:56 <downeym> /slap UK0LY|tE
02:52:12 <downeym> :)
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03:19:15 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Forum: Re: Sending open MRS HL7 Messages <http://forum.openmrs.org/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=440#p2116>
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04:23:20 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Forum: Re: Report / Patient List (by Program or Location) <http://forum.openmrs.org/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=491#p2117>
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06:29:33 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Forum: Re: Sending open MRS HL7 Messages <http://forum.openmrs.org/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=440#p2118>
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13:32:04 <pascal`> hey bwolfe
13:32:20 <bwolfe> mornin' pascal`
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14:07:31 <chopin__> anyone interested in the code review call, pm me
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14:11:39 <downeym> chopin: Are you suggesting it's interesting? :)
14:13:47 <chopin> hah
14:13:49 <chopin> to some
14:17:06 * chopin looks around for darius and jmiranda
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14:25:16 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Forum: Re: Sending open MRS HL7 Messages <http://forum.openmrs.org/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=440#p2119>
14:25:39 <Shazin> Hi All
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14:30:30 <pascal`> hey jmiranda
14:30:34 <pascal`> hi Shazin
14:30:58 <jmiranda> pascal`, hi
14:31:45 <chopin> jmiranda: we haven't started the code review yet, if you feel like joining 8|
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14:36:20 <jmiranda> chopin, thanks
14:36:43 <jmiranda> is darius on the call?
14:36:50 <chopin> not yet
14:37:53 <downeym> too early over there :)
14:37:55 <jmiranda> i'm supposed to be transitioning off the calls, so i was hoping darius would start taking over for me full-time
14:38:02 <chopin> oh!
14:38:04 * chopin had no clue
14:38:07 <chopin> no big deal
14:38:16 <jmiranda> downeym, i did just wake up, yes :)
14:38:38 <chopin> we obviously have plenty to cover but there's other stuff to do if we don't deal with code review right now
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15:26:11 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12260]: Create v1.5.1 2010-03 <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12260> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12259]: SVN Cleanup <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12259> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12258]: svn cleanup <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12258> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12257]: create tags folder <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12257>
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15:51:42 <Shaz> I get Mails late
15:51:49 <Shaz> from the Dev Mailing List
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15:56:54 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12263]: logmanager: Initial commit without libraries <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12263> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12262]: logmanager: Initial import. <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12262> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12261]: atd -- atd_scorable_jit branch Merging trunk into branch atd_scorable_jit … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12261>
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16:28:17 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12266]: logmanager: Added option to set a logger level to "inherited" <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12266> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12265]: chica -- chica_scorable_jit branch Merging trunk into branch … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12265> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12264]: logmanager: Initial commit of libraries <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12264>
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17:00:21 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12268]: ncd: tuned down the amount of logging and number of preserved log files … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12268> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12267]: logmanager: cosmetic changes to the logger list <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12267>
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17:30:42 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #2110 (task closed): remove RuleClassLoader and LogicService.loadRule <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/2110> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12270]: #2110 remove RuleClassLoader and LogicService.loadRule <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12270> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12269]: logic: #2110 remove RuleClassLoader and LogicService.loadRule <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12269>
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18:02:27 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12273]: Tagging 0.5.1 beta version of Visit Scheduler module. <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12273> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12272]: visitscheduler: Version 0.5.1. <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12272> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12271]: visitscheduler: keeping stores syncronized between forms. Fixes for Type, … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12271>
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19:06:31 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12274]: tag v1.5.1 2010-03 <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12274> || OpenMRS Forum: Re: Sending open MRS HL7 Messages <http://forum.openmrs.org/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=440#p2120>
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19:15:08 <mrosas> hey
19:17:42 <downeym> hi mrosas
19:17:58 <mrosas> i'm trying to localize openmrs, i've already overwritten messages.properties file with messages_es.properties files, but i'm having some trouble with the accents, can anybody tell me how do i fix this please?
19:18:36 <mrosas> in spanish, we write operation as operación
19:19:03 <mrosas> and by doing what i did, it is showing operaci�n
19:19:32 <mrosas> i think the thing is we have different encoding or some
19:19:42 <mrosas> but i don't know where to configure that
19:20:10 <mrosas> in fact i don't even know where the messages.properties files is called, i just found it and replaced it with the spanish one
19:22:18 <bwolfe> mrosas: what version of openmrs?
19:22:42 <bwolfe> mrosas: make sure the file is utf8 encoded
19:23:12 <bwolfe> mrosas: are you editing messages.properties or messages_es.properties
19:23:19 <mrosas> messages.properties
19:23:33 <mrosas> and replacing it with the message_es.properties
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19:24:13 <mrosas> i did that because i didn't find how to point to messages_es.properties instead of messages.properties
19:24:55 <bwolfe> ah, you can do that by choosing "es" in the footer of openmrs
19:25:10 <bwolfe> and leave it as _es.properties
19:26:11 <mrosas> yeah but it only shows me english(United kingdom) or english (United States)
19:26:43 <mrosas> how can i make it to appear Spanish in that footer?
19:27:40 <bwolfe> mrosas: strange, thought it put all locales in by default. how did you install?
19:28:20 <bwolfe> there is a global property you can set to the available locales
19:28:38 <bwolfe> add es to that list
19:30:28 <mrosas> where is that global property?ç
19:32:00 <mrosas> the installation was made by my partner, he is not here right now, i'll ask him later
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19:36:10 <downeym> hi x-ian
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19:40:04 <downeym> hi sunbiz
19:40:13 <sunbiz> hey downeym
19:40:28 <njero> downeym: x-ian is the new project manager / other various titles in Neno
19:40:36 <njero> replacing mkulumadzi
19:41:02 <downeym> cool. congratulations x-ian :)
19:41:27 <sunbiz> downeym: I see you fixed the CI issue
19:41:56 <downeym> sunbiz: Yes, should be resolved
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19:42:45 <sunbiz> You attempted to reach ci.openmrs.org, but instead you actually reached a server identifying itself as *.securesites.net
19:42:59 <sunbiz> it still tells me this... so the cert is still from godaddy
19:43:13 <downeym> Hmm, that is a different issue
19:43:41 <sunbiz> downeym: yes, I was meaning this issue... not the failing ones
19:44:08 <downeym> sunbiz: will add this to my list :)
19:48:01 <sunbiz> !introtickets
19:48:01 <OpenMRSBot> sunbiz: "introtickets" --- http://dev.openmrs.org/report/20
19:48:06 <sunbiz> !boom
19:48:06 <OpenMRSBot> sunbiz: "boom" --- BOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!
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19:54:51 <downeym> hi chopin_
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19:54:59 <chopin> yyyo
19:55:23 <downeym> ls
19:55:29 * downeym slaps owith an extra large Acer laptop
19:55:46 * downeym fixes his scripts :)
19:55:51 <chopin> hah
19:57:38 * downeym hurts hwith a scary set of Windows 3.11 floppies
19:57:46 <downeym> :D
19:58:06 <downeym> epic fail
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20:10:40 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #2118 (task closed): Update the operator guide for recent changes <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/2118#comment:2> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12277]: ncd: #2118 updated the operator's guide. Also fixed a minor … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12277> || OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #2118 (task created): Update the operator guide for recent changes <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/2118> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12276]: chica_scorable_jit branch * fixed errors in sqldiff <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12276> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12275]: -- atd_scorable_jit branch * fixed errors in sqldiff <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12275>
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20:28:12 <downeym> hi Mkop
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21:06:48 <downeym> hi tinashe
21:11:32 <tinashe> downeym, hi man howzit?
21:11:41 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12278]: webervices.jaxws.api: added toJSON to all relevant DTOs and coded against … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12278>
21:11:46 <downeym> tinashe: good and you?
21:12:50 <tinashe> downeym, am good as well..are u the guys in the states?
21:13:22 <downeym> tinashe: some of us are, yes :)
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21:14:55 <tinashe> downeym, oh ok..so howz it that side of the world?
21:15:51 <downeym> Is cold here ... remind me, where are you?
21:17:15 <tinashe> downeym, am in South Africa..Cape Town...work with Pascal and Daniel..
21:17:50 <downeym> OK, great :)
21:17:55 <downeym> i guess you guys are in summer
21:19:04 <tinashe> downeym, yes..it's very hot down here...
21:21:35 <downeym> we had 45 cm of snow in february :) so you are lucky
21:22:41 <tinashe> downeym, oh..heard about that on the news..which state are you?
21:22:49 <downeym> We're in Indianapolis
21:22:55 <downeym> Indiana state
21:25:41 <bwolfe> tinashe: so you're new at jembi ?
21:26:00 <tinashe> downeym, oh..its ok....
21:26:11 <tinashe> bwolfe, yes i started in january...
21:28:57 <tinashe> bwolfe, downeym guys will chat in a bit...need to setup some virtual machine and install openmrs and do something on it..thing is i'm using dial up..not yet subscribed to wireless at home...
21:29:25 <downeym> tinashe: good luck :)
21:29:41 <bwolfe> good times
21:29:52 <bwolfe> gotta love the state of internet in SA...very sad
21:30:07 <tinashe> downeym, thanx....
21:30:25 <bwolfe> there are multiple fiber pipelines going around the cape and hitting land at multiple points...but the stupid ISPs are charge through the nose for silly satelitte service
21:30:49 <tinashe> bwolfe, well wireless is available but thing is got unlimited access at campus so sometimes i feel like i don't need it at the moment....
21:31:11 <bwolfe> ah yes
21:31:17 <bwolfe> theres that too :-)
21:31:37 * chopin runs away
21:31:40 <chopin> see y'all tomorrow
21:31:42 <chopin> 8|
21:31:44 <chopin> o/
21:32:02 <bwolfe> cya chopin
21:32:15 <tinashe> bwolfe, yes..got unlimited quota of internet use at the university am studying at the moment..
21:32:22 <chopin> bwolfe: i'm slowly grokking forms .. eyes burning
21:32:50 <bwolfe> chopin: we need to document all this when you're done too
21:33:04 <bwolfe> chopin: at least keep an outline of what you're learning so we can do up some paragraphs
21:33:30 <chopin> bwolfe: yep, making a few changes to wiki pages as i go
21:33:42 <chopin> (like removing <code></code> in favor of <tt></tt>)
21:33:55 <nribeka> ;)
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21:35:46 <tinashe> <<--------lata guys--------------->>, @2mrw....
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21:37:36 <downeym> cya tinashe
21:38:01 <tinashe> kk...l8r...
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22:24:50 <downeym> hi jmiranda
22:26:31 <jmiranda> hey downeym
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22:33:26 <downeym> hi zeshan
22:34:04 <zeshan> buenos.
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