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01:58:14 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Forum: Re: Forms not found on install <http://forum.openmrs.org/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=516#p1908>
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06:46:32 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Forum: Regarding Patient Visit scheduler <http://forum.openmrs.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=522#p1909>
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06:56:31 <pascal`> hi
06:56:48 <upul> hi
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08:20:41 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #1925 (enhancement created): Add to htmlformentry module <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/1925>
08:52:41 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [11153]: Fixing concept name equality error <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/11153> || OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #1926 (task closed): Unable to Change Locale When on Annotation JSP page <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/1926#comment:1> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [11152]: 1.5.x: Fixed locale changes on annotation based jsp pages - #1926 <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/11152> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [11151]: Fixed locale changes on annotation based jsp pages - #1926 <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/11151> || OpenMRS Forum: Re: UUID Confused!!! <http://forum.openmrs.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=520#p1910> || OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #1926 (task created): Unable to Change Locale When on Annotation JSP page <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/1926>
09:02:29 * pascal` needs more coffee
09:03:33 <pascal`> hey bwolfe, mkulumadzi
09:10:49 <mkulumadzi> hey pascal`
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09:24:47 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [11154]: Reverting miscommitted file <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/11154>
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09:56:51 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Forum: Patient visit scheduler <http://forum.openmrs.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=523#p1911>
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10:19:39 <Shtl> hello all
10:45:21 <pascal`> hi Shtl
10:45:33 <Shtl> hi
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10:46:26 <Shtl> pascal`: can you tell me suitable applications like numarical data processing??
10:47:21 <Shtl> can you tell me suitable applications for like numarical data processing??
10:49:48 <pascal`> Shtl, can you provide more details about the data?
10:51:28 <Shtl> pascal`: any data of biomedical things, like taking some input data from lab experiments of human and processing it and then given usefull results to further analyses
10:57:33 <pascal`> Shtl, do you mean aggregate data over a cohort of patients?
10:57:33 <pascal`> Shtl, what systems are the data coming from?
10:58:19 <Shtl> any medical instruments used in Hospitals
10:58:59 <pascal`> what kinds of results would you like?
11:00:42 <pascal`> well in any case, I don't know all the products out there, but I think OpenMRS and http://www.bikalabs.com/ should be able to what you want
11:00:42 <pascal`> and probably a few proprietary systems as well
11:00:55 <pascal`> Shtl, are you looking for something free and open source?
11:01:47 <Shtl> even trials also ok
11:01:52 <pascal`> if you have specific questions you could put the them to the community (http://openmrs.org/wiki/Community)
11:03:25 <Shtl> Basically what i m looking is, the program should take input as like blood sugar level, give the result as whether its normal, critical, dangeorous.... etc
11:12:36 <pascal`> Shtl, I see
11:13:21 <pascal`> that's decision support
11:13:23 <pascal`> it's something which OpenMRS isn't great at yet as far as I can tell
11:13:46 <Shtl> ok, wat exactly it can do?
11:17:03 <pascal`> Shtl, OpenMRS is extensible though, so you can always develop (or request the community to develop) a module or to do what you need
11:17:03 <pascal`> -or
11:17:21 <Shtl> ok
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11:19:14 <pascal`> Shtl, have you read http://openmrs.org/wiki/OpenMRS_Overview ?
11:19:14 <pascal`> Basically, OpenMRS is a medical record system
11:19:57 <Shtl> ok
11:20:15 <Shtl> any way thanks lot pascal`
11:20:18 <pascal`> so it stores patient level data (observations, treatments, lab results, demographics etc)
11:20:18 <pascal`> the data can then be reported on
11:21:22 <pascal`> also, it has a module framework and api which can be used to build basically any custom functionality
11:22:36 <pascal`> there is some working going into decision support (http://openmrs.org/wiki/Clinical_Decision_Support) ... but it's not all that much at the moment
11:22:36 <pascal`> Shtl, what kind of scale are you looking at for deployment?
11:22:40 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/4Y+r> (at openmrs.org)
11:23:10 <Shtl> pascal`: what do u mean? i did't get u
11:27:03 <pascal`> Shtl, I'm just trying to understand the context... who are you doing this work for?
11:27:31 <Shtl> its for me only
11:27:49 <Shtl> for the future use
11:30:40 <pascal`> I see
11:37:12 <Shtl> pascal`: where are u from?
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11:45:23 <pascal`> Shtl, South Africa
11:45:47 <Shtl> ohh ok, nice place
11:47:04 <Echidna> OS Info: Windows Server 2008 R2 (Build #7600) [Keelhaul] installed on Tuesday, July 14 2009
11:51:45 <pascal`> I like it
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12:10:37 <pascal`> morning jmiranda
12:10:44 <jmiranda> hey pascal`
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12:49:33 <jmiranda> pascal`, are you getting any of my PM messages
12:50:15 <jmiranda> ok that makes more sense
12:51:21 <pascal`> jmiranda, no, gonna try find you on skype
12:51:51 <jmiranda> ok
12:52:14 <jmiranda> that works for me
12:52:33 <jmiranda> in fact, i'd rather have our conversations over skype if that's cool
13:05:14 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #1927 (defect created): Data export date fields should not change format based on locale <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/1927>
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13:35:36 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [11155]: pihmalawireports: Another intermediate commit for feedback <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/11155>
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13:44:00 <r0bby_> wow
13:44:19 <r0bby_> my motorola droid's battery life is gonna be bad :(
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13:55:06 <bwolfe> r0bby_: all smartphone devices that send data constantly to the network over 3g are bad. :-p
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15:40:33 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Forum: Re: Can't find OPENMRS_RUNTIME_PROPERTIES.PROPERTIES <http://forum.openmrs.org/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=518#p1912>
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17:15:31 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [11158]: patientflags: Change search form to get rather than post, remove criteria … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/11158> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [11157]: patientflags: Increase size of input fields <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/11157> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [11156]: tracnetreport: Removed redundant <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/11156>
17:17:56 <Echidna> oh great, ubuntu apt-got me eclipse 3.2 =/
17:20:55 <pascal`> yeah
17:21:15 <pascal`> they're looking for someone to take over managing eclipse in the repo for them
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17:30:02 <pascal`> completetion
17:30:04 <pascal`> (=
17:47:35 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [11160]: reporting: Bumping reporting module to version 0.3.3 (added support for … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/11160> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [11159]: tracnetreport: Modified to use the htmlwidgets module <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/11159>
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18:19:42 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #1925 (enhancement closed): Add to htmlformentry module <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/1925#comment:2> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [11162]: htmlformentry module: fixing #1925 - Add <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/11162> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [11161]: tracnetreport: Added explicit version requirement on reporting module to … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/11161> || OpenMRS Modules: HTML Form Entry 1.5.2 uploaded to OpenMRS Module Repository <https://dev.openmrs.org/modules/view.jsp?module=htmlformentry&version=&1.5.2>
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18:23:02 <pascal`> hey bwolfe
18:23:05 <pascal`> we've been waiting for you
18:23:16 <pascal`> and by "we" I mean "me"
18:23:23 <pascal`> and by "you" I mean "nribeka"
18:24:14 <bwolfe> pascal`: um, ok, so I really have nothing to do with it then? :-p
18:24:22 <pascal`> (=
18:24:30 <pascal`> Well I have a logic question
18:25:18 <pascal`> I'm not using the logic module (how ready is it to use anyway?) ... and I want a Rule which simply gives the LAST observed value of some concept for a patient
18:25:44 <pascal`> I need Rule so I can use it in a LogicDataSetColumn in the reporting framework
18:25:51 <pascal`> bwolfe, can you point me in the right direction?
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18:30:27 <bwolfe> LAST WEIGHT ?
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18:36:38 <pascal`> bwolfe, exactl
18:36:40 <pascal`> y
18:36:50 <pascal`> ok, let me put it this way
18:37:00 <pascal`> how to Rules and Criteria relate to each other
18:37:15 <bwolfe> you mean logiccriteria, right?
18:37:41 <pascal`> yes
18:37:52 <pascal`> it seems like you can evaluate a criteria on a cohort
18:38:00 <pascal`> but can you turn a criteria into a Rule
18:39:21 <pascal`> so, this is easy enough: Result result = Context.getLogicService().eval(patient, "CD4 COUNT");
18:39:37 <pascal`> But for a reporting dataset, I need an actual Rule
18:40:39 <pascal`> so what I'm trying to get at is, can I create a Rule from a LogicCriteria, or am I going to have to create a class and implement the eval method?
18:44:39 <bwolfe> pascal`: I have absolutely no idea
18:44:45 <bwolfe> sorry :-/
18:45:45 <pascal`> np
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19:55:52 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [11165]: trunk: Remove requirement for retire reason to be non-null, and for void … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/11165> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [11164]: ncd: Added DAO code to be able to exclude retired/voided results. Added … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/11164> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [11163]: openmrs-1.5.x: Remove requirement for retire reason to be non-null, and … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/11163>
20:26:02 <jmiranda> pascal`, i think your complicating things more than they need to be
20:26:09 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Forum: Re: Can't find OPENMRS_RUNTIME_PROPERTIES.PROPERTIES <http://forum.openmrs.org/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=518#p1913> || OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #1924 (task closed): Remove requirement for non-null void/retired reason except for Patient, Obs and Encounter <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/1924#comment:4>
20:26:12 <jmiranda> why do you want to create a rule from a criteria object
20:27:09 <jmiranda> using syntax like "LAST WEIGHT" as a token will get you the last weight for every patient in a cohort
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