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00:04:05 <r0bby> hrm
00:04:19 <r0bby> I can't decide if i need to more clearly define my timeline vs doing two week blocks
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01:04:09 <Mkop2> note to roommates: sardines.smell() != death.smell()
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01:06:03 <Mkop2> hey, ben
01:06:53 <r0bby> Mkop2: note to you: sardines.isGross() returns true
01:09:25 <bwolfe> yessir
01:09:48 <Mkop2> Context.getR0bby().getProperty("likesSardines") == false
01:10:25 <Mkop2> Context.getRobbyService().getR0bby()*
01:14:45 <bwolfe> oh, I get it, you were just saying "hi" Mkop2. the comma threw me off. :-)
01:15:34 <bwolfe> I think it'd be Context.getUserService().getUserByName("R0bby").getUserProperty("favoriteFoods").contains("Sardines") == false. :-)
01:17:13 <Mkop2> bwolfe: yeah, real confusing, right? :-P
01:17:53 <Mkop2> you mean Context doesn't have a r0bbyservice?
01:18:26 <greendots> that would make for a good gsoc project
01:18:31 <Mkop2> lol
01:19:54 <Mkop2> or a post-gsoc poof-a-hack-a-thon
01:20:17 <Mkop2> we can write classes for Context.r0bbyService, Context.bwolfeService, etc. etc.
01:20:32 <r0bby> greendots: a r0bby service?
01:20:41 <r0bby> that's what she said
01:20:46 * r0bby giggles
01:21:49 <Mkop2> Class bwolfeService { Object o = BaseballGunBat; ... }
01:22:04 <r0bby> ben:
01:22:06 <r0bby> trunk
01:22:13 <r0bby> when trying to do anything dealing w/ concepts ;X
01:22:16 <r0bby> in patient dash
01:23:56 <Mkop2> I've never seen a pastebin that has color themes :-)
01:24:12 <bwolfe> means you're loading a ConceptNumeric then a Concept with the same id
01:24:19 <bwolfe> nribeka is working on the solution
01:25:17 <nribeka> bwolfe
01:25:25 <nribeka> you're done with soccer?
01:25:30 <nribeka> i didn't know you watch soccer
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01:25:53 * r0bby blames HTMLFormEntryModule is to blame!
01:26:27 <r0bby> but this happened when trying to load a graph for the weight (KG) concept
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01:26:34 <bwolfe> nribeka: I don't watch really. I just play :-)
01:26:50 <nribeka> you play soccer?
01:26:54 <nribeka> really?
01:27:09 <nribeka> where bwolfe
01:27:12 <nribeka> sounds fun
01:27:26 <bwolfe> yeah, have since I was probably 10
01:27:47 <bwolfe> I only play indoor soccer now a days though
01:28:00 <bwolfe> at a place called "off the wall sports" on the north side of indy
01:29:06 <nribeka> wow ... that's sounds cool. can i join in? lol
01:29:26 <bwolfe> sure, you going to make the 6 hour commute every week? :-)
01:29:43 <nribeka> i haven't play soccer for almost 2 years and i think i'm getting bigger since i got here
01:29:49 <nribeka> lol ... i can move to indy :P
01:30:38 <nribeka> utf8 patch seems pretty simple bwolfe :P
01:32:18 <bwolfe> do you have it working nribeka ?
01:33:25 <nribeka> not yet bwolfe. want me to test it out?
01:33:50 <nribeka> i think i need bed rest :(
01:34:13 <bwolfe> thats what laptops are for
01:34:15 <bwolfe> :-)
01:34:28 <nribeka> hahahaha
01:34:30 <nribeka> that's true
01:34:33 <nribeka> :P
01:34:51 <nribeka> already in the bed since saturday now
01:36:00 <bwolfe> wow
01:36:17 <bwolfe> the flu? or food sickness ?
01:37:02 <nribeka> sore throat
01:37:06 <nribeka> cold
01:37:52 <Mkop2> a couple weeks ago, I stayed up until 5 working on a lab report, and right before I went to bed, I got an email from a professor who was already up and sending emails
01:42:24 <r0bby> sweet leaping jesus my friend is a right-wing nutjob :(
01:44:30 <nribeka> what is right wing nutjob rob?
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01:46:54 <r0bby> nribeka: put it this way
01:47:14 <r0bby> she doesn't seem to get the whole gist of how life is over in africa
01:47:41 <r0bby> not being a complete naive whackjob (and working with openmrs helps a bit)
01:48:19 <r0bby> Background: The pope said that condoms shouldn't be used to fight AIDS in africa
01:49:42 <r0bby> :/
01:58:24 * Mkop2 is procrastinating his biomed image analysis homework
01:58:34 <r0bby> DO IT!
01:59:19 <Mkop2> but it's hard!
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02:03:17 <r0bby> DO ITTTTT
02:03:22 * r0bby cracks the whip
02:03:59 <Mkop2> that's what she said
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02:09:43 * r0bby throws Keelhaul at Mkop2
02:09:52 <r0bby> do your hw or else i'll throwe another channel inhabitant!
02:10:10 <r0bby> Keelhaul believes he can fly!
02:10:10 <Keelhaul> you cant lift me
02:10:18 <r0bby> you're right :p
02:10:33 * Mkop2 tempts Keelhaul over to r0bby's place with free jellybeans.....
02:10:41 <Mkop2> yummy yummy jelly beans....
02:10:46 <Keelhaul> not rly
02:10:53 <Mkop2> now get him, Keelhaul! attack!
02:11:07 <Mkop2> yummy yummy belgian chocolates.....
02:11:29 <Keelhaul> i'm not really into sweets
02:11:33 <Keelhaul> how about fried octopus
02:11:35 <Keelhaul> yum =)
02:14:12 * r0bby pukes
02:17:06 <r0bby> LMFAO
02:17:08 <r0bby> Jesus Saves... Passes to Moses. Shoots... He SCORES!
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02:23:57 <Mkop2> r0bby: did you get that from my fb page?
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02:31:32 <Mkop2> r0bby: ahh, I see what you mean about your right wing nutjob friend. Not that I entirely disagree with her and entirely agree with you, but I see what you mean
02:32:08 <Keelhaul> heh
02:32:10 <r0bby> Mkop2: I kinda do
02:32:19 <r0bby> disagree with her
02:32:26 <Keelhaul> i'm not sure where people of this channel stand politically so i dont engange in political discussions here
02:33:04 <nribeka> bwolfe, how to change the properties to other language
02:33:08 <nribeka> ups he's not here
02:33:10 <nribeka> huhuhu ...
02:35:31 <r0bby> Keelhaul: this isn't politicis
02:35:34 <r0bby> politicis*
02:35:49 <r0bby> this is just stupidity
02:35:53 <Keelhaul> is that a new disease?
02:36:04 <Keelhaul> is there an icd code? =P
02:36:08 <r0bby> I figure, Paul, Chase, Darius, Burke, and Justin can school her lol
02:36:19 <Keelhaul> in what
02:39:32 <r0bby> pope made a comment criticizing the use of condoms in africa to fight AIDS.
02:39:49 <Keelhaul> oh yea
02:40:42 <Keelhaul> and your friend said waht?
02:40:53 <Mkop2> I'm not gonna discuss it here, because I'm worried that people will miss subtleties and misjudge me
02:40:59 <Keelhaul> lol
02:41:09 <Mkop2> not necessarily you guys, but the logs are googleable
02:41:15 <Keelhaul> yep
02:43:01 <r0bby> Keelhaul: do you have fb?
02:43:10 <Keelhaul> fb?
02:44:24 <r0bby> facebook
02:45:06 <Keelhaul> yea, i'm in the openmrs group
02:45:09 <Mkop2> surely you must...
02:45:14 <Mkop2> oh, there is one?
02:45:18 <Keelhaul> yea
02:45:37 <Mkop2> whoa
02:45:39 <Mkop2> 71 members
02:47:13 <r0bby> i pm'd her
02:47:21 <r0bby> him*
02:48:10 <Mkop2> Keelhaul: that's not what I imagined you looking like :-)
02:48:17 <Keelhaul> lol
02:49:00 <r0bby> what's your name on there
02:49:07 <Keelhaul> try to figure out =)
02:49:25 <Keelhaul> dont paste/write my full name in here
02:49:29 <Keelhaul> i dont want it to be googled
02:50:26 <Mkop2> Keelhaul: is that a German name? it sounds russian
02:50:45 <Keelhaul> i'm russian by origin
02:50:48 <Mkop2> oh
02:50:53 <Keelhaul> living in germany since 1991
02:55:56 <nribeka> which one Keelhaul?
02:57:34 <Mkop2> nribeka: are you on facebook?
02:57:40 <Mkop2> Keelhaul: what does Keelhaul mean?
02:58:04 <nribeka> yes
02:58:09 <nribeka> i think i'm in openmrs too
02:58:30 <Keelhaul>
03:00:08 <nribeka> ooo ic Mkop2 there
03:00:23 <Mkop2> nribeka: I don't see you
03:01:07 <nribeka> hahahaha
03:02:30 <Mkop2> strange - when I search for ribeka it says one result, but doesn't show it
03:02:44 <Mkop2> I'll be back in 15 minutes
03:02:45 <Mkop2> bye
03:03:35 <r0bby> adios
03:03:36 <r0bby> lol
03:05:54 <nribeka> i'm invisible at fb
03:05:55 <nribeka> lol
03:07:44 <r0bby> nribeka: find me.
03:07:48 <r0bby> DARE YOU
03:09:59 <nribeka> i got six r0bby
03:10:00 <nribeka> lol
03:10:00 <nribeka> :)
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03:14:24 <r0bby> FIND ME :)
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03:16:49 <ajitlodhi> any1 plz tell how to get involved with tickets.....?
03:16:56 <ajitlodhi> i hav the link
03:17:52 <Mkop2> nribeka: what does that mean you're invisible
03:18:03 <Mkop2> ajitlodhi: what can we help you with?
03:18:48 <ajitlodhi> i find d ticket i want to work but unable to understand how to get involved with it..?
03:19:08 <Mkop2> ajitlodhi: you mean in terms of the coding aspect, or in terms of how to submit the fix?
03:19:12 <Mkop2> we can help with either one
03:19:20 <ajitlodhi> how to submit..
03:19:29 <ajitlodhi> how to participate...
03:19:31 <Mkop2> do you have an account on Trac?
03:19:39 <ajitlodhi> 2
03:20:03 <Mkop2> you have 2 accounts?
03:20:09 <r0bby> i have one :)
03:20:11 <ajitlodhi> okies
03:20:16 <r0bby> r0bby is my trac :>
03:20:21 <ajitlodhi> if u send me d link to pply
03:20:26 <Mkop2> r0bby: shh
03:20:31 <Mkop2> you're confusing things
03:20:40 <ajitlodhi> k sry..
03:20:49 <Mkop2> ajitlodhi: at the top of the ticket page, click Register
03:20:55 <ajitlodhi> k
03:20:56 <ajitlodhi> sry
03:21:01 <Mkop2> that was aimed at r0bby, not you
03:21:26 <Mkop2> ajitlodhi: which ticket is it?
03:22:01 <Keelhaul> whats that fork called in english
03:22:03 <ajitlodhi> Firefox: Don't Ask to Change a Password
03:22:09 <Keelhaul> that you use to adjust musical instruments
03:22:33 <Keelhaul> oh tuning fork, nm
03:23:28 <ajitlodhi> Mkop2 thr..?
03:23:41 <Mkop2> ajitlodhi: huh?
03:26:38 <ajitlodhi> i wrote the ticket i want to work on...Firefox: Don't Ask to Change a Password
03:28:26 <Mkop2> what's the number?
03:28:47 <ajitlodhi> 152
03:29:18 <Mkop2> !ticket 152
03:29:18 <OpenMRSBot> Mkop2: Ticket #152:
03:29:39 <ajitlodhi> yup..
03:29:46 <ajitlodhi> but to work on this..
03:29:50 <Mkop2> ajitlodhi: do you know how to fix it?
03:30:10 <ajitlodhi> i want to fix it ..
03:30:19 <ajitlodhi> i dont know xactly..
03:30:29 <Mkop2> I don't know either
03:30:44 <Mkop2> if someone knew, it would have been fixed already :-)
03:30:46 <ajitlodhi> i want help..
03:30:48 <Mkop2> this one will take some research
03:30:56 <ajitlodhi> ya i know
03:31:10 <ajitlodhi> if u tell me some trivial one ...
03:31:11 <Mkop2> maybe you can start with google, trying to figure out what determines whether firefox gives that option
03:31:16 <ajitlodhi> if i can start of..
03:31:29 <ajitlodhi> !ticket no...
03:31:29 <OpenMRSBot> ajitlodhi: Ticket #no...:
03:31:29 <Mkop2> you could also try asking on #firefox, maybe they'll have some ideas
03:31:40 <Mkop2> !trivial
03:31:40 <OpenMRSBot> Mkop2: "trivial" --- Looking for a trivial ticket to tackle for OpenMRS?
03:31:47 <Mkop2> !intro
03:31:47 <OpenMRSBot> Mkop2: Error: "intro" is not a valid command.
03:31:51 <Mkop2> !introtickets
03:31:51 <OpenMRSBot> Mkop2: "introtickets" ---
03:32:15 <ajitlodhi> ya this i know...
03:32:25 <ajitlodhi> thanks..:)
03:36:26 <Mkop2> ajitlodhi: did i answer your question?
03:36:40 <Mkop2> is there anything else I can help you with?
03:37:44 <Mkop2> wow Keelhaul you're old
03:37:49 <Mkop2> :-P
03:38:28 <Keelhaul> no u
03:38:47 <ajitlodhi> no i think u dodn't
03:38:52 <ajitlodhi> *didn't
03:39:55 <Mkop2> ajitlodhi: what can I help you with?
03:40:02 <ajitlodhi> for any general ticket how to learn to get the ti just google?
03:40:17 <ajitlodhi> *it
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03:42:09 <Mkop2> ajitlodhi: it depends on the ticket. Some of them require advanced programming knowledge and knowledge of the OpenMRS API, some of them (probably very few though) you might be able to fix with just google
03:42:20 <Mkop2> all of them require problem solving skills
03:43:04 <ajitlodhi> k
03:44:07 <ajitlodhi> and it just ur ability how to find the one requiring OpenMRS API or google???
03:47:33 <ajitlodhi> well i got what i want to know,,thanks for the help Mkop2...
03:47:53 <Mkop2> ajitlodhi: sorry, I missed your message before
03:48:05 <ajitlodhi> its k...
03:48:24 <Mkop2> yes, it's your own skills looking at the problem, thinking about how to solve it, and then going about it in the best way possible
03:48:38 <ajitlodhi> k
03:48:47 <ajitlodhi> thanks..
03:49:03 <ajitlodhi> ur also interested in participating GSoC?
03:49:14 <ajitlodhi> :)
03:49:24 <Mkop2> yes, I'm applying to GSoC
03:49:36 <ajitlodhi> and for which project?
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03:55:59 <upul> !soc
03:55:59 <OpenMRSBot> upul: "soc" --- (#1), or (#2), or (#3)
03:56:09 <Mkop2> ajitlodhi: probably active lists
03:56:10 <upul> !bwolfesays
03:56:10 <OpenMRSBot> upul: "bwolfesays" --- FYI to all potential GSoC Applicants: OpenMRS welcomes multiple applications for multiple projects within openmrs. Actually, we encourage it! Sometimes we get quality students only applying to a low priority project. So pick a few projects that interest you, apply to all of them, and put comments in them saying which other ones you've applied to
03:56:15 <Mkop2> though i might apply to more than one
03:57:44 <ajitlodhi> k
04:00:21 <Mkop2> Keelhaul: just reading your keelhauling link right now, and it's sending some serious shivers down my spine
04:00:35 <Keelhaul> =)
04:00:53 <Mkop2> I don't know what that says about you
04:01:12 <Mkop2> :-P
04:01:18 <Keelhaul> >=]
04:01:35 <Mkop2> I am seriously frieked out by it
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04:05:10 <Mkop2> hi luzhuangwei
04:05:20 <luzhuangwei> hi,Mkop2
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04:12:02 <upul> ignore me recalling ! links, they didn't work in pm
04:16:08 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7201]: idcards module: First time generation of id cards prompts for initial card … <>
04:22:17 <ajitlodhi> paul????
04:22:50 <Mkop2> ajitlodhi: huh? Paul's not here....
04:23:21 <ajitlodhi> ya he out for few u know where he has gone...
04:23:58 <Mkop2> he's not on IRC much, it seems
04:24:05 <ajitlodhi> k
04:24:23 <ajitlodhi> he has stopped replying to my mails........
04:24:32 <ajitlodhi> :(
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04:27:56 <Mkop2> ajitlodhi: he's probably just been busy.
04:29:46 <nribeka> docpaul is extremely busy man :)
04:29:48 <ajitlodhi> k
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04:40:23 <Mkop2> hi, openmrs_2786
04:41:10 <jmiranda> ajitlodhi, send your emails to the dev list
04:41:39 <jmiranda> (if they're questions about your project)
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04:53:12 <Mkop2> r0bby: you're in an argument that you can never win. Don't waste your time.
04:55:22 <Mkop2> good night all
04:56:38 <r0bby> Mkop2: im talking to her live lol
04:56:42 <r0bby> this is worse
04:58:05 <Mkop2> r0bby: you have no chance of convincing her. you're looking at it from different perspectives, and from each person's perspective, the other person's opinion is utterly disrespectful to a person/group of people
04:58:15 <Mkop2> and she has no chance of convincing you
05:02:30 <r0bby> I'm looking at it knowing what i know from interacting w/ people who work w/ openmrs
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05:10:06 <Mkop2> I don't know how much you can claim authority from second-hand experience
05:10:25 <r0bby> not much
05:10:36 <r0bby> but mostly i just know from being educated
05:12:58 <ajitlodhi> k jmiranda i will send mails to dev list...thanks..
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06:11:42 <pakon> hi, all
06:12:08 <upul> hi pakon
06:12:26 <pakon> i fix Ticket #365 - UTF8 Localization Support
06:12:40 <pakon> patch
06:12:42 <OpenMRSBot> <> (at
06:13:26 <Keelhaul> for real?
06:13:33 <Keelhaul> screenshot!
06:13:57 <pakon> Keelhaul: hi -
06:13:58 <OpenMRSBot> <> (at
06:14:09 <Keelhaul> heh nice
06:14:11 <Keelhaul> gj
06:14:36 <Keelhaul> pakon: also, feel free to translate =P
06:14:44 <Keelhaul> that's ~2k lines
06:14:48 <pakon> ok ;)
06:15:03 <Keelhaul> is that Chrome?
06:15:45 <pakon> yes - chrome in incognito mode
06:18:47 <Keelhaul> i've been doing a german translation
06:18:52 <Keelhaul> about 40% done or so
06:18:55 <Keelhaul> it's tedious and boring
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06:19:25 <anandafit> hi
06:19:32 <Keelhaul> hi
06:20:22 <anandafit> Dear I want to join with ur mailing list. Can u help me
06:20:47 <Keelhaul> =o
06:20:52 <Keelhaul> lol
06:20:55 <Keelhaul> are you calling me dear?
06:21:21 <Keelhaul>
06:21:33 <anandafit> thanks
06:22:49 <pakon> Keelhaul: Dear what are you doing this evening? ;)
06:22:58 <Keelhaul> lol
06:23:37 <Keelhaul> hmm 8:23
06:23:40 <Keelhaul> almost bed time
06:23:51 <pakon> anandafit: without resentment
06:25:06 <Keelhaul> pakon: did you overwrite the default properties file when you took that screenshot?
06:25:21 <Keelhaul> you can set the allowed locales in global properties and then switch
06:26:13 <pakon> i fill textbox on "my profile" page with "ru_RU"
06:27:38 <Keelhaul> hm
06:27:42 <Keelhaul> if you add en to that
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06:27:54 <Keelhaul> can you switch on the bottom then?
06:29:27 <pakon> i can't change label on lfet-bottom "English (United Kingdom)"
06:29:52 <Keelhaul> go to admin->global properties
06:29:59 <pakon> there is only 1 item in select
06:30:14 <Keelhaul> er manage global properties
06:30:27 <Keelhaul> and search for "locale.allowed.list"
06:30:45 <pakon> one moment
06:35:21 <pakon> i found
06:35:37 <pakon> fill with "en, ru"?
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06:39:32 <lahiru> hi
06:39:43 <pakon> lahiru: hi
06:40:12 <lahiru> I am interseted in gsoc.
06:40:58 <lahiru> I prepared proposal and mailed it to Justin
06:41:04 <lahiru> Is he available?
06:43:10 <upul> lahiru: he's jmiranda, probably sleeping by now
06:43:24 <Keelhaul> pakon: yes
06:43:27 <Keelhaul> lahiru: hi
06:43:39 <lahiru> hi
06:44:04 <lahiru> oh, I see
06:44:17 <Keelhaul> slp time, bai
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06:44:33 <upul> you can try in around 7 hours
06:44:40 <lahiru> yeah bai :)
06:44:47 <lahiru> I guess
06:44:50 <lahiru> :)
06:45:17 <lahiru> Upul, did you try to deploy openMRS in Sri Lanka
06:45:19 <lahiru> ??
06:45:57 <lahiru> Because almost all the public hospitals still uses hard documentation for the process
06:48:39 <lahiru> Or if there is any possibility to conduct a such project
06:48:41 <lahiru> ??
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06:51:12 <upul> hmm, somebody can setup "another" NGO, fool some foreigners and take half the funding, quick way to become billionaires
06:51:22 <upul> ;-)
06:51:33 <lahiru> no no ;)
06:52:13 <upul> i heard there were plans to introduce, at least they were investigating that in ICTA or something
06:52:44 <lahiru> Actually, they have one installed in Kurunegala hospital
06:52:57 <lahiru> that's all I think
06:53:15 <lahiru> But it doesn't have much progress
06:53:56 <lahiru> I met Director of medical services this weekend and I just mentioned him about this project
06:54:43 <lahiru> And he said Ministry will give all the support needed.
06:54:59 <upul> :-)
06:55:05 <lahiru> ya
06:55:06 <lahiru> :)
06:56:11 <upul> i think ICTA were doing something like this, there was that egovernance or something
06:56:55 <lahiru> hmm. I think so.
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06:57:39 <lahiru> Anyway we will see.
06:57:56 <upul> :-)
06:58:12 <lahiru> :)
06:58:59 <lahiru> Did you see my proposal
06:59:09 <lahiru> I mailed it yesterday
06:59:35 <upul> saw it in the forum
06:59:58 <lahiru> forum? I mailed it to the dev list
07:00:24 <upul> hmm, must be, i can't remember where I saw it
07:00:32 <lahiru> :)
07:02:56 <upul> i'm going to apply for gsoc this time too
07:03:54 <lahiru> oh gr8
07:04:12 <lahiru> what is your project?
07:04:48 <upul> have applied to about 7 now including the scheduler ;-)
07:04:56 <lahiru> :)
07:05:24 <lahiru> you are a big compettior then?
07:05:27 <lahiru> :)
07:06:16 <lahiru> Did you mailed the proposals to Mentors for review or you just submit that in gsoc app?
07:06:48 <r0bby> lahiru: applied in the webapp
07:06:54 <r0bby> then emailed the mentors
07:07:07 <r0bby> upul: which ones :)
07:07:16 <upul> lahiru: not sure anyway my old mentor wouldn't take me probably again
07:07:37 <upul> r0bby: same ones you applied ;-)
07:08:08 <lahiru> oh, we have a another competitor here :)
07:08:09 <lahiru> hi
07:08:14 <lahiru> nice to meet you
07:08:15 <lahiru> :)
07:17:04 <r0bby> upul: Oh I dont stand a chance :)
07:17:25 <r0bby> you one-upped me for the last time!
07:17:37 <r0bby> blasted.
07:17:42 <r0bby> Okay, bedtime
07:18:00 <r0bby> it _BLOWS_ I wont be able to use groovy :(
07:18:01 <jmiranda> lahiru,
07:18:09 <lahiru> hi
07:18:13 <jmiranda> just saw your message above
07:18:16 <r0bby> it'd make defining my classes SO much easier :)
07:18:20 <jmiranda> i've been knee deep in taxes all night
07:18:28 <jmiranda> so i haven't been paying attention
07:18:44 <r0bby> hey jmiranda
07:18:47 <r0bby> spring mvc
07:19:10 <r0bby> when onSubmit saves a command object
07:19:22 <r0bby> does it uses setters or the ctor?
07:19:31 <r0bby> meh
07:19:38 <jmiranda> lahiru, i'll review your app tomorrow
07:20:01 <jmiranda> hey r0bby
07:20:06 <lahiru> ok, it is fine. thank you. in the mean time I will put in the gsoc app
07:20:21 <lahiru> I can update it after the review if necessary
07:20:32 <jmiranda> lahiru, correct
07:20:37 <r0bby> jmiranda: by the way your advice to lahiru helped me :)
07:20:54 <jmiranda> r0bby, which advice was that?
07:20:57 <r0bby> (Last summer i was kinda a shoe-in; i did pretty much the minimum)
07:21:01 <r0bby> define a project plan :P
07:21:10 <lahiru> it is fine with me robby :)
07:21:27 <r0bby> I'm not after your project; it doesn't interest me much:)
07:21:28 <jmiranda> r0bby, oh right
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07:22:04 <r0bby> I'm still kicking myself over last summer
07:22:07 <lahiru> ok, Lunch time. cu guys later. Thanks for the support.
07:22:13 <jmiranda> later
07:22:21 <jmiranda> ok, i'm heading to bed now
07:22:25 <jmiranda> good night y'all
07:22:36 <r0bby> that was amusing
07:22:49 <r0bby> my container class didn't wanna resolve form.getId()
07:22:56 <r0bby> earlier... now it is
07:23:11 <r0bby> s/container/activator/
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07:26:53 <r0bby> o/
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07:45:00 <pv78> hi all
07:45:50 <pv78> hi nribeka:
07:57:20 <nribeka1> hi pv78
07:57:27 <nribeka1> i'm going to sleep soon :)
07:57:33 <nribeka1> any question? :)
07:59:31 <pv78> i have 2-tables i want tableA.emloyeeid value to be storedin TableB.employeeid with one submit clik
08:02:20 <nribeka1> wow ... better ask that question tomorrow
08:02:23 <nribeka1> off to bed now
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08:03:26 <pv78> ok i can wait till tomorrow ...
08:03:30 <upul> pv78: anything I can help you with?
08:03:59 <pv78> have a nice sleep nribeka1:
08:04:15 <pv78> upul: i have 2-tables i want tableA.emloyeeid value to be storedin TableB.employeeid with one submit clik
08:04:19 <nribeka1> please consult with upul then
08:04:21 <nribeka1> off all
08:04:23 <nribeka1> cya laterz
08:05:24 <upul> pv78: so did you get into any problem?
08:05:52 <pv78> yea
08:07:02 <pv78> i have a jsp for which displays all the field of both Tables(A,B) with one Submit button
08:08:22 <upul> pv78: are you using spring, hibernate?
08:08:32 <upul> upul: or is it just jsp
08:09:33 <pv78> Upul: i have a jsp form which displays all the field of both Tables(A,B) with one Submit button. i enter value and click submit.
08:09:33 <pv78> yes using spring hibenate
08:09:33 <pv78> i am working on my module
08:09:51 <pv78> i can successfully submit value to db and retrieve from while dealing with one table
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08:12:01 <upul> pv78: did you any error?
08:12:30 <pv78> i want tableA.emloyeeid value to be storedin TableB.employeeid with one submit clik UPUL:
08:12:42 <pv78> no i need to know some logic guidence to code...!
08:13:22 <upul> pv78: you can get the submitted value in the submit button and create a new object in the second table
08:13:31 <upul> submit method
08:15:25 <pv78> u mean i get the object in submit method and send it to 2nd table
08:17:16 <pv78> can u give any code example to "get the submitted value in the submit button"
08:17:26 <pv78> Upul:
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08:30:01 <upul> pv78: you can check how the exsting code works, check a controller class, there's formbackingobject which create the datatransferobject, onsubmit method gets that with the user entered data filled in
08:35:25 <pv78> upul: oks, i will be back after some efforts.....
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13:11:25 <bwolfe> anyone have any experience writing eclipse plugins ?
13:12:15 <upul__> bwolfe: why ask?
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13:13:11 <bwolfe> upul: we have the "generate test cases plugin". it needs a few updates
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13:16:59 <upul> bwolfe: i only did a bit long time ago then stopped, this must be serious work for the next month's work
13:17:26 <upul> bwolfe: is the code in the repo?
13:17:50 <bwolfe> upul: yeah, its in /openmrs-contrib/eclipse/plugins I think
13:17:56 <bwolfe> behaviortestgenerator
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13:23:19 <nribeka> i wanna check to bwolfe
13:23:32 <nribeka> btw the utf i applied i see
13:23:33 <nribeka> :D
13:23:42 <nribeka> s/to/too
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13:31:57 <bwolfe> nribeka: yeah, that was an easy utf8 fix! I can't believe we didn't see that earlier!
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13:40:47 <bwolfe> nribeka: did you mean you want to help with the plugin fixes ?
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13:50:41 <r0bby> Keelhaul !
13:50:44 * r0bby :P
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13:53:05 <r0bby> cute firefox is broken
13:53:58 <vindyani> when we are applying to gsoc proj, do we need to include a rough timeline?
13:57:02 <r0bby> I did
13:57:10 <r0bby> for the project i really wanted :)
13:57:20 <r0bby> for the first part up til midterm :)
13:57:53 <r0bby> w/ Est'd delivery dates for each item
13:58:01 <r0bby> the way io laid it out i shall have no life
13:58:01 <r0bby> lol
13:58:20 <vindyani> :)
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14:03:10 <bwolfe> vindyani: yeah, it helps to include a timeline. it shows you've really thought through the process
14:03:35 <bwolfe> vindyani: it will just be a rough draft though, you and your mentor can clean it up after acceptance if need by
14:03:37 <bwolfe> *be
14:03:57 <vindyani> ok, thanks
14:05:43 <r0bby> I included a rough draft for just one of my projects
14:05:45 <r0bby> :x
14:05:53 <r0bby> you guys know me by now :)
14:06:07 <r0bby> not sure if that's good or bad :x
14:07:01 <Keelhaul> oh hm, i just saw the excelimport module was committed by jmiranda
14:07:23 <Keelhaul> jmiranda: can you answer some questions about it?
14:07:41 * r0bby maintains the groovy module it seems :X
14:09:25 <jmiranda> Keelhaul, sure
14:09:31 <Keelhaul> jmiranda: cool
14:09:35 <jmiranda> it needs a lot of work
14:09:48 <Keelhaul> yea, it's a bit out of date too
14:09:59 <jmiranda> we've been using it to batch load a bunch of encounters for our sites
14:10:00 <Keelhaul> at least if you want to compile it with trunk
14:10:13 <jmiranda> yeah, i use 1.4.x
14:10:14 <Keelhaul> can it add independent obs w/o encounters?
14:10:32 <jmiranda> because our sites are on 1.4
14:11:04 <jmiranda> it's pretty much hard-wired to meet our needs
14:11:13 <Keelhaul> yea =/
14:11:27 <jmiranda> i was hoping to do a refactoring, but there's never time
14:11:38 <Keelhaul> what i need is take a bunch of excel files that contain glucose readings
14:11:45 <r0bby> jmiranda: if you want i'll do it?
14:11:47 <Keelhaul> and add them as unattached obs
14:11:59 <jmiranda> that should be easy
14:12:15 <Keelhaul> but there is no documentation on the required excel format
14:12:30 <jmiranda> i know
14:12:39 <Keelhaul> can you send me an example, maybe
14:12:41 <jmiranda> sorry, i meant it would be easy to write
14:13:07 <jmiranda> copying an example from the code
14:13:12 <jmiranda> r0bby, thanks for the offer
14:13:32 <r0bby> jmiranda: I have all modules sitting on my laptop (I pulled all modules from svn)
14:13:37 <jmiranda> Keelhaul, we need to figure out a format
14:13:56 <r0bby> jmiranda: do you want me to do it, or should I not bother?)
14:14:34 <jmiranda> r0bby, go for it if you'd like
14:14:43 <Keelhaul> heh
14:14:48 <jmiranda> unfortunately, i can't work on it at all
14:15:02 <Keelhaul> r0bby: first of all, make sure it stops using commons-logging =P
14:15:07 <jmiranda> :)
14:15:09 <r0bby> Done :P
14:15:19 <r0bby> I'll be pulling whatever logging framework is in trunk :P
14:15:25 <jmiranda> Keelhaul, that's a week old change
14:15:35 <Keelhaul> yep
14:15:38 <r0bby> secondly i need to figure out how to use it
14:15:52 <r0bby> But it'd be nice :) I can finally load OBS :)
14:15:57 <Keelhaul> well
14:16:07 <Keelhaul> the way i understood it it can only add encounters with obs
14:16:09 <Keelhaul> not single obs
14:16:10 <Keelhaul> right?
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14:16:20 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: why should it not use commons-logging ?
14:16:33 <Keelhaul> bwolfe: you removed it from trunk
14:16:42 <Keelhaul> so unless you want to add 60k to that jar
14:16:45 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: not really
14:17:14 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: I removed the commons-logging implementation of commons-logging. but I put in the slf4j implementation of commons-logging at the same time
14:17:24 <bwolfe> spring uses commons-logging, so its not really going away for a long time
14:17:31 <Keelhaul> ah ic, i read something in the changelog
14:17:34 <Keelhaul> ok
14:17:38 <bwolfe> (slf4j just forwards all commons-logging stuff to log4j now)
14:18:00 <Keelhaul> oh, there was something i meant to ask you
14:18:12 <Keelhaul> if oyu define an extension point that is not used, just there
14:18:20 <Keelhaul> does it cost anything processing wise?
14:19:16 <r0bby> jmiranda: expect to hear from me tonight
14:19:28 <Keelhaul> is that a threat? =P
14:19:32 <jmiranda> r0bby, about?
14:19:57 <jmiranda> hopefully not about this module :)
14:20:10 <jmiranda> i was trying to convey that i don't have any time to work on it
14:20:23 <jmiranda> meaning, not even from a project management standpoint
14:21:00 <jmiranda> but i would encourage you to take this up on your own if you want to work on it
14:21:16 <jmiranda> it's definitely a need for the community
14:21:26 <jmiranda> get some feedback from developers to see what they might like it to do
14:21:51 <r0bby> ah ok
14:22:00 <r0bby> nevermind then don't expect to hear from me :)
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14:23:09 <jmiranda> the design i had in my head was an importer that handled 1 - N columns at a time
14:23:26 <jmiranda> each column could be mapped to a handler
14:24:09 <jmiranda> for instance, a Patient handler might look for 1 - N columns that would help it create a patient record
14:24:12 <r0bby> did it work at the time
14:24:29 <jmiranda> i had a day to get something working
14:24:35 <Keelhaul> heh
14:24:45 <r0bby> I'll take that as a yes it did work
14:25:00 <jmiranda> so i didn't even try to actually implement the design
14:25:11 <jmiranda> did our hacks work?
14:25:12 <jmiranda> yes
14:25:35 <jmiranda> we've written three hacky importing methods
14:25:49 <jmiranda> all worked great for the specific data we needed to import
14:26:00 <jmiranda> now we just need to pull back and make it work in general
14:26:34 <r0bby> heh yeh
14:26:41 <r0bby> seems a lot of hacks exist for PIH
14:26:55 <r0bby> I'm trying to make groovy forms not be a giant hack
14:27:04 <r0bby> the design was well thought out
14:27:12 <r0bby> just getting it to work is a bitch :/
14:27:19 <jmiranda> working in 5+ countries will do that to you
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14:27:50 <r0bby> yeh
14:27:53 <r0bby> I get that :)
14:28:01 <r0bby> I wanna get groovyforms working
14:28:14 <r0bby> I'm trying to figure out if I can get the current design working
14:28:36 <r0bby> I'm working on converting everything to spring controllers currently :x
14:29:30 <r0bby> Darius' work on HTMLFormEntry Module has been a lot of help
14:29:55 <r0bby> I wanted to meet up w/ him when i was in Boston w/ a friend of mine back in october -- timing just wasn't on my side :(
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14:48:08 <Keelhaul> hmm
14:48:16 <Keelhaul> would this be a valid reason for a ticket
14:48:23 <Keelhaul> my german kb nupad has a comma instead of a period
14:48:48 <Keelhaul> so when entering decimals in most forms, i have to move my hand all the way over to the period in the main key block
14:48:54 <Keelhaul> which costs a lot of time =)
14:49:21 <Keelhaul> there should be some sort of check for "x,y" that converts to "x.y"
14:49:28 <Keelhaul> numpad*
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15:26:31 <Keelhaul> bwolfe: can you tell me where validation of decimals takes place?
15:26:44 <Keelhaul> seems tobe something in spring
15:28:35 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: one of the validators ?
15:28:42 <bwolfe> which form ?
15:28:51 <Keelhaul> htmlformentry in particular
15:28:54 <bwolfe> check the openmrs-servlet.xml spring application context
15:28:58 <bwolfe> oh, I don't know about that one
15:28:59 <Keelhaul> i traversed the path
15:29:13 <bwolfe> check the moduleApplicationContext to see if he registered any validators
15:29:23 <bwolfe> or in the controller to see if there are any binding agents
15:29:30 <bwolfe> or just email darius. :-p
15:29:34 <bwolfe> lunchtime, bbl
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16:42:37 <upul> hi bwolfe
16:43:40 <bwolfe> hey upul
16:44:06 <upul> what kind of changes needed in the plugin?
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16:45:57 <Keelhaul> woah
16:46:04 <Keelhaul> i havent been logged out of trac yet
16:46:08 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: heh
16:46:08 <Keelhaul> it's been a few days
16:46:11 <bwolfe> its a miracle!
16:46:18 <bwolfe> upul: there are some tickets for sec
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16:47:04 <bwolfe> upul:
16:47:07 <OpenMRSBot> <> (at
16:51:46 <Mkop2> Keelhaul and bwolfe: I'm not logged in
16:51:59 <Mkop2> maybe b/c I closed FF
16:52:37 <bwolfe> Mkop2: yeah, its a per-session thing I think
16:52:54 <bwolfe> Mkop2: although I also get logged out if I switch from wireless to wired (even though FF stays open)
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16:54:30 <Keelhaul> bwolfe: i found where the module validates the numbers
16:54:46 <Keelhaul> ctrl+h is your friend
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16:56:47 <bwolfe> upul: I added in a few more tickets for the plugin
16:57:05 <bwolfe> nribeka wanted to work on some too, so if you start working on one, claim it so you don't duplicate work. :-)
16:57:09 <bwolfe> brb
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17:12:19 <nribeka> argh so hard even to eat ...
17:12:22 <nribeka> huhu ...
17:12:44 <Keelhaul> sore throat?
17:12:50 <nribeka> yes sir
17:13:13 <Keelhaul> sucks
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17:19:03 <Mkop2> bwolfe: I'm busy applying that patch. question: was OpenMrsUtil.validatePassword(String username, String password, String systemId) removed in the last few commits?
17:19:19 <Mkop2> or added, or something?
17:20:06 <Mkop2> it's just strange that an entire method is showing as different between the patch and the revision I checked out
17:21:18 <nribeka> what's the diff Mkop2?
17:21:26 <nribeka> conflict in the svn?
17:21:29 <Mkop2> yes
17:22:12 <nribeka> i don't think there's any changes in the validate. i think the patch come from me :P
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17:22:34 <nribeka> in which line the conflict occur Mkop2?
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17:24:35 <Mkop2> nribeka: is the method new since 7164?
17:24:56 <Mkop2> bwolfe: did you see my questions before, or were you already disconnected by then?
17:25:00 <bwolfe> disconnect
17:25:02 <bwolfe> *ed
17:25:22 <bwolfe> last thing I saw was Keelhaul's other personality jumping on/off
17:25:26 <bwolfe> err off/on
17:25:30 <Keelhaul> =o
17:26:39 <Keelhaul> oh man
17:26:49 <Keelhaul> coming up with fictional patient names isnt that east
17:26:51 <Keelhaul> easy*
17:27:56 <Mkop2> bwolfe: I'm busy applying that patch. question: was OpenMrsUtil.validatePassword(String username, String password, String systemId) removed in the last few commits?
17:28:02 <Mkop2> or added, or something?
17:28:07 <Mkop2> it's just strange that an entire method is showing as different between the patch and the revision I checked out
17:28:41 <nribeka> you need to do update Mkop2
17:28:45 <nribeka> before creating patch
17:29:02 <nribeka> hopefully the changes will be merged
17:29:18 <Mkop2> nribeka: it's complicated. the patch is based on 7164
17:29:21 <nribeka> if conflict, then you must help subclipse resolving the conflict
17:29:39 <Mkop2> I'm busy using tortoisesvn to resolve the conflict
17:29:45 <Mkop2> I just need to know how it's supposed to be
17:30:07 <nribeka> ugh the validate comes in 7166
17:30:08 <Mkop2> I'll look in the source code browser on trac
17:30:52 <bwolfe> added
17:32:14 <Mkop2> ok
17:33:51 <Mkop2> grrrrrrrrr
17:33:56 <Mkop2> this is so annoying
17:34:19 <Mkop2> I checked out 7164
17:34:23 <Mkop2> applied the patch
17:34:30 <Mkop2> (resolving conflicts at that time)
17:34:33 <Mkop2> now did an update
17:34:39 <Mkop2> and I still need to resolve 16 conflicts
17:36:02 <bwolfe> heh
17:36:20 <Mkop2> you're laughing - I'm not
17:36:23 <Mkop2> :-P
17:36:47 <bwolfe> perhaps I should have said "the same version you had checked out" instead of 7164. I only said 7164 because it was right before I applied your last patch
17:37:14 <bwolfe> but you'd still have to resolve conflicts when updating probably
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17:38:43 <Mkop2> I'm pretty sure it was 7164
17:38:49 <Mkop2> there weren't really conflicts, I don't think
17:38:58 <Mkop2> just annoying little things to go through
17:39:00 <Mkop2> idk
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17:47:51 <openmrs_9753> Hey,guys! I'm Jason!
17:48:23 <Keelhaul> hi
17:48:39 <ajitlodhi> hi dude..
17:49:11 <openmrs_9753> I'm from Singapore,what abt you guys?
17:49:16 <ajitlodhi> may be u could write ur nick in good style
17:49:26 <ajitlodhi> iam from India
17:50:28 <openmrs_9753> Oh,I see,it's quite close
17:50:29 <openmrs_9753> haha
17:50:35 <ajitlodhi> :)
17:50:37 <Mkop2> bwolfe: 143.7.patch uploaded. If this one doesn't work, I quit.
17:50:52 <ajitlodhi> it must be time to sleep?
17:50:52 <bwolfe> Mkop2: heh, ok. I'll try it out
17:51:11 <bwolfe> openmrs_9753: you can type /nick jason to change it
17:51:24 <bwolfe> ajitlodhi: not everyone has irc experience. :-)
17:51:44 <ajitlodhi> :) iam suggesting..never mind jason
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17:52:06 <bwolfe> ajitlodhi: and the javascript client at gives users openmrs_xxxx as a default
17:52:13 <JasonY> ok, changed!
17:52:23 <ajitlodhi> k
17:52:42 <bwolfe> nice
17:52:52 <ajitlodhi> ya but i didn't understand on what basis that digit is given
17:53:06 <ajitlodhi> xxxx??is what
17:53:17 <bwolfe> its random I think
17:53:23 <ajitlodhi> is it default..
17:53:26 <bwolfe> refreshing the page should give you different numbers each time
17:53:31 <ajitlodhi> ya maybe..
17:53:32 <JasonY> so are you guys mentors or students just like me?
17:54:19 <ajitlodhi> bwolfe is freind of all us:) isn't it bwolfe..and me student..
17:54:44 <bwolfe> heh, something like that ajitlodhi :-)
17:55:05 <Keelhaul> i'm from the internet =)
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17:55:32 <ajitlodhi> bwolfe i was wondering to solve ticket 152 can u give some help..
17:56:06 <bwolfe> !ticket 152
17:56:06 <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: Ticket #152:
17:56:27 <bwolfe> did you see Mkop2's comment on it ajitlodhi
17:56:42 <bwolfe> he put it on there late last night. I haven't had a chance to try it out
17:56:44 <ajitlodhi> i hope its more than difficult....ya he gave me some good suggestion
17:56:52 <ajitlodhi> k
17:57:08 <Mkop2> I did some asking around in #firefox here on freenode as well as in
17:57:21 <Mkop2> they all said putting autocomplete=off should fix the problem
17:57:22 <ajitlodhi> k
17:57:32 <ajitlodhi> hmm
17:57:40 <Mkop2> that was done already a year ago
17:57:50 <Mkop2> but back then, apparently it worked only in IE, not FF
17:58:00 <ajitlodhi> k
17:59:47 <bwolfe> ah
17:59:56 <bwolfe> so maybe just try to see if it is working as it should now
17:59:56 <ajitlodhi> ah??
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18:01:35 <bwolfe> jason had a short stay :-/
18:01:49 <ajitlodhi> :)
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18:02:22 <Keelhaul> well
18:02:32 <Keelhaul> maybe he accidently opened a new page in that tab
18:02:38 <Keelhaul> that web based client is really a pain
18:02:56 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: ah, could be
18:03:03 <Keelhaul> happened to me a few times
18:03:47 <Keelhaul> bwolfe: is there any complex obs support through the webapp?
18:04:04 <bwolfe> yeah, you should be able to upload things
18:06:21 <Mkop2> hmm... I just accidentally created a username without a username. Is that a problem? now he can't log in, right?
18:06:27 <Mkop2> username should be a mandatory field
18:06:28 <Keelhaul>
18:06:33 <Keelhaul> optimistic locking =o
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18:08:05 <Mkop2> bwolfe: ^^
18:08:25 <Keelhaul> do i have to define something i can add as "mappings"?
18:08:28 <Keelhaul> for complex objects
18:09:44 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: haven't seen that before. maybe the conceptcomplex hbm mapping is wrong ?
18:09:57 <bwolfe> Mkop2: right, probably should be required
18:10:11 <Mkop2> how do I fix that?
18:10:26 <Mkop2> or should I just create a ticket?
18:10:38 <bwolfe> Mkop2: yeah, ticket then look at the
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18:16:29 <Mkop2> bwolfe: is this a defect enhancement or task?
18:16:55 <bwolfe> Mkop2: either works, but probably enhancement
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18:21:00 <pakon> all: I read OpenMRS documentation about Concept. What is Concept? Is it somthing like "description" or "estimation" of something, or it is "princip", "idea"?
18:21:23 <Keelhaul> bwolfe: there is no way to express the time of day to take a certain drug, is there
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18:21:50 <Keelhaul> at least w/o going to the individual drug order pages
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18:21:56 <Keelhaul> and adding instructions
18:23:01 <bwolfe> pakon: search for concept dictionary 101 in the wiki
18:23:13 <pakon> ok
18:23:59 <Keelhaul> bwolfe: how well is the term "concept" understood by users?
18:24:27 <bwolfe> I dunno
18:24:39 <Keelhaul> we were showing openmrs to the dept head and he didnt liek that word at all =/
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18:27:18 <nribeka> what word Keelhaul?
18:27:51 <Keelhaul> concept
18:28:00 <pakon> Concept is the record about single indivisible observation. Imho. Right?
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18:29:03 <Mkop2> bwolfe: do we only want to add the requirement for a username to the webapp, and not to the data structure?
18:29:38 <bwolfe> Mkop2: oh wait, I forgot. users can log in with their system id as wel
18:29:40 <bwolfe> *well
18:29:41 <Mkop2> currently the only validation is done with User user = (User) obj;iif (user == null) {errors.rejectValue("user", "error.general");
18:29:45 <bwolfe> so username is not needed
18:29:58 <bwolfe> system id is auto generated on user save
18:30:26 <Mkop2> ok
18:30:29 <Mkop2> hmm, interesting
18:30:34 <Mkop2> I logged in with system id
18:30:39 <Mkop2> and it gave an error: Privileges required: [View Users]
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18:30:51 <Mkop2> but it showed logged in in the top right
18:30:59 <bwolfe> pakon: a concept is the code for both the question and the answer in an obs, yes
18:31:16 <bwolfe> right, you need more privileges to view the home page apparently :-p
18:31:28 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: what did he suggest concept should be? :-p
18:31:51 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: it used to be "Term" in the early early early versions of openmrs (look at first few datamodel images)
18:31:54 <Keelhaul> bwolfe: nothing, nobody really has a better term for what that word represents in openmrs
18:31:57 <Mkop2> you need View Users permission to view the home page?
18:32:05 <bwolfe> apparently
18:32:08 <bwolfe> hehe
18:32:10 <bwolfe> not sure why
18:32:27 <Keelhaul> it loads a users at some point, maybe
18:32:35 <Keelhaul> or is the check in the jsp
18:32:55 <Mkop2> a clinician should be able to log in and not get an error
18:34:25 <Keelhaul> yea
18:34:38 <Keelhaul> i dont think it should be a problem to give him that priv
18:34:49 <Keelhaul> there are a lot of pages where a user is pulled from the db
18:34:59 <Keelhaul> and there is no proxy priv added
18:36:17 <pakon> is very helpfull
18:36:20 <OpenMRSBot> <> (at
18:38:48 <Keelhaul> bwolfe: if i change a concept datatype, what happens to the obs using the old datatype
18:40:01 <bwolfe> you shouldn't do that
18:40:30 <Keelhaul> heh
18:40:37 <Keelhaul> i know
18:40:46 <Keelhaul> but sometimes it needs to be done
18:40:53 <Keelhaul> at least in non-production environment
18:42:31 <Keelhaul> e.g. i found out "Text" is useless for ECGs...
18:42:53 <Keelhaul> of course, text is useless for most things
18:44:27 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #1367 (enhancement created): Require username when creating user <>
18:44:42 <Mkop2> text is useless for ecgs? b/c it needs to be stored as binary?
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18:44:47 <Keelhaul> yea
18:44:51 <Keelhaul> it's a diagram
18:44:55 <Keelhaul> image
18:45:48 <Keelhaul> and the convenient "foot exam" obs i have, a text field
18:46:02 <Keelhaul> in the real world it would consist of at least 22 individual observations
18:46:03 <bwolfe> we need to make it so that a concept can't be editing (or at least parts of it) once you start storing data
18:46:35 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: the obs aren't touched if you change the concept. if you're storing things in a diff column with the new data type then viewing the old obs will break
18:46:46 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: aka value_coded to value_text
18:46:50 <Keelhaul> yea
18:47:16 <Keelhaul> so people should add a new concept if they want to change the datatype?
18:47:59 <bwolfe> right
18:48:57 <Mkop2> in lab, we've done ecg labs where we get the data as text
18:49:03 <Mkop2> voltage values
18:49:08 <Keelhaul> well i guess you can do it that way
18:49:22 <Mkop2> any digital signal can be represented by numbers
18:49:28 <Keelhaul> of course
18:49:31 <Mkop2> but you're right, normally it would be binary
18:49:35 <Keelhaul> but that depends what you get from the machine
18:49:51 <Keelhaul> heh
18:50:03 <Keelhaul> this would require 2 different concepts =/
19:02:30 <Keelhaul>
19:02:33 <OpenMRSBot> <> (at
19:06:23 <Mkop2> bwolfe: so what should I do with that ticket (the check for blank username)? just put a comment with your resolution and mark it as fixed?
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19:07:13 <CarlosRivin> Hello!
19:08:05 <CarlosRivin> I just sent an email to to ask about an application. Is this the right procedure?
19:09:33 <Mkop2> hi, CarlosRivin
19:09:51 <Mkop2> you can ask a lot of questions here, or you can email the mentor about it
19:10:05 <Mkop2> i'm not sure if that's a valid email address - bwolfe, where does that go to?
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19:16:57 <bwolfe> guess a node failed
19:17:12 <pakon> ping?
19:17:49 <pakon> pong!
19:18:44 <bwolfe> pakon: aren't you supposed to do that with someone else, not yourself? :-)
19:19:55 <bwolfe> brb
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19:24:19 <Mkop2> marco
19:26:46 <CarlosRivin> Hi Mkop2. How can I know Gari Clifford email's address?
19:28:57 <Mkop2> I have no idea. Ask bwolfe when he comes back
19:30:14 <CarlosRivin> ok. He didn't left any kind of contact information on the wiki
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19:39:23 <jmiranda> polo
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19:49:10 <Keelhaul> bwolfe: is there a way to select your language independent of the locale?
19:49:20 <Keelhaul> e.g. english text on non-english locale
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20:10:07 <Mkop2> jmiranda: thanks! lol
20:11:36 <meonkeys> jmiranda: you guys use IRC for marco polo? :)
20:12:46 <Keelhaul> how do you play that
20:12:55 <Keelhaul> blindfolded in a pool or smt?
20:13:51 <jmiranda> meonkeys, yeah ... we're not quite as sophisticated with our project management style yet
20:14:03 <meonkeys> lol.
20:14:09 <jmiranda> we're less agile
20:14:22 <jmiranda> and more pin-the-tail-on-the-donkey / marco polo
20:14:43 <meonkeys> well, I *was* able to download your software, run tests, deploy, and login in about 30 minutes
20:15:22 <meonkeys> maybe we need to do more marco polo too.
20:15:26 <jmiranda> yeah, i didn't give preference to either approach :)
20:15:32 <meonkeys> heh, indeed.
20:15:36 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: no, why would you want to do that ?
20:15:59 <bwolfe> meonkeys: 30 mins? Thats not too bad! I'm hoping for about 5 mins though. do you remember what the delay was ?
20:16:26 <Keelhaul> bwolfe: darius has proposed a locale-based decimal parser
20:16:30 <Keelhaul> means i'd have to use german
20:16:38 <Keelhaul> but i dont want to have german text one day
20:16:44 <Keelhaul> (when i'm finished translating)
20:16:53 <meonkeys> bwolfe: I don't exactly remember, I think I was also reading through docs while I was doing that stuff
20:17:09 <bwolfe> you could just delete the german file and it will default back to english properties
20:17:26 <bwolfe> meonkeys: oh, you're one of those. :-p
20:17:48 <meonkeys> I like your wiki much more than ours.
20:18:06 <Keelhaul> bwolfe: that would require me to alter the war file
20:18:33 <bwolfe> really meonkeys ? We get a lot of complaints about it... I guess we can just blame it on user error from now on! sweet!
20:18:34 <bwolfe> :-D
20:18:46 <meonkeys> :)
20:18:53 <meonkeys> it's all relative
20:18:53 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: either the war or the exploded war in tomcat's webapps folder
20:19:03 <bwolfe> ok, fair enough
20:19:03 <meonkeys> you probably just haven't seen our wiki yet. :)
20:19:51 <bwolfe> the next time someone complains about ours I'll just say, "Yeah, well at least we're not as bad as mifos!"
20:20:11 <bwolfe> ah, plone
20:22:41 <Mkop2> meonkeys: which wiki is yours?
20:23:08 <Mkop2> oh, mifos
20:23:11 <Mkop2> I need to keep reading
20:24:34 <Mkop2> we need a table of contents like theirs
20:28:33 <bwolfe> Mkop2: can you create a ticket for those TODOs for Darius ? :-)
20:28:43 <Mkop2> ok
20:29:09 <Mkop2> which file are they in again?
20:29:34 <bwolfe> OrderUtil
20:30:06 <Mkop2> and what's darius's last name again?
20:30:21 <Mkop2> i.e. his username
20:30:54 <CarlosRivin> bwolfe do you know Gari Clifford email address?
20:31:15 <bwolfe> Mkop2: djazayeri
20:31:31 <bwolfe> CarlosRivin: hmm, perhaps. let me look it up
20:31:48 <CarlosRivin> ok. thanks. I need to talk to him about google summer of code.
20:32:03 <Mkop2> bwolfe: done.
20:33:21 <bwolfe> Mkop2: nice. thanks
20:34:33 <pakon> bwolfe: there is the gsoc idea "Integrate the Ivy Build System". but i think that maven is better solution than ivy? because "Maven is an attempt to apply patterns to a project's build infrastructure in order to promote comprehension and productivity by providing a clear path in the use of best practices"
20:35:42 <pakon> may be to try maven?
20:35:50 <pakon> i can to do this task
20:36:31 <bwolfe> pakon: *sigh*, I might be open to maven...if it is fairly simple to use. the problem is I've never seen a simple maven! :-)
20:36:49 <Keelhaul> i like how the ticket notification mails ahve all the wiki formatting code in them
20:36:56 <bwolfe> pakon: FYI: only the projects "above" the line are GSOC projects. the ones below are just "open" projects and not the highest priorities right now
20:37:19 <bwolfe> pakon: I am all about you helping either with Ivy or showing some of what maven for openmrs might look like
20:38:58 <bwolfe> pakon: as in, I can work with you on that before GSOC if you would like. however, if you apply for one of the projects that aren't tagged as GSOC there is a very high likelihood that you WON'T be picked. :-/
20:39:27 <pakon> aha
20:40:48 <pakon> I will apply to the different projects in OpenMRS marked as GSOC of course.
20:42:30 <bwolfe> pakon: do you have links to maven in some projects where the maven is a simple setup ?
20:42:33 <bwolfe> and easy to run
20:42:46 <bwolfe> aka: doesn't make my head hurt. :-)
20:42:51 <CarlosRivin> bwolfe did you find the address?
20:42:53 <pakon> we will try to use maven, whether or no
20:43:30 <bwolfe> CarlosRivin: pm'd it to you
20:43:40 <bwolfe> CarlosRivin: sorry, I found it and then came back and pakon distracted me! :-)
20:44:20 <CarlosRivin> bwolfe ok. thanks alot! =)
20:44:24 <pakon> bwolfe: i create maven poms from scratch for my job-project
20:44:51 <bwolfe> pakon: wow, ok. so they're ALL easy to you!
20:45:29 <pakon> it take some time - but after the work is complete - using of maven is very easy
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20:50:49 <pakon> in "Longitudinal Data Review" idea is written "...While the data visualization "widget" shows graphical depictions of specific variables..." Where can i see this "widget"?
20:52:34 <pakon> and second question: the "Flowsheet" is available in the code base?
20:53:42 <bwolfe> pakon: I don't think we have either really
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20:55:48 <pakon> this picture by Paul Biondich
20:56:20 <pakon> Visits Paul irc chanel?
20:56:42 <pakon> may be redirect this question to Paul
20:56:45 <pakon> ?
20:58:37 <pakon> bwolfe: is nickname of Paul - OpenMRSBot? ;)
20:58:46 <bwolfe> heh
20:58:51 <bwolfe> OpenMRSBot: what is your name ?
20:58:51 <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: Error: "what" is not a valid command.
20:58:56 <bwolfe> OpenMRSBot: name
20:58:56 <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: Error: "name" is not a valid command.
20:59:05 <bwolfe> !whoami
20:59:05 <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: I don't recognize you.
20:59:10 <bwolfe> !whois OpenMRSBot
20:59:10 <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: Error: "whois" is not a valid command.
20:59:14 <bwolfe> !who OpenMRSBot
20:59:14 <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: Error: "who" is not a valid command.
20:59:17 <bwolfe> !who bwolfe
20:59:17 <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: Error: "who" is not a valid command.
20:59:26 <bwolfe> pakon: hmm, I thought there was something that did it
20:59:38 <bwolfe> pakon: paul is docpaul in here. he's usually on after 10pm EDT
20:59:59 <pakon> ok
21:00:23 <pakon> EDT +? UTC
21:00:44 <pakon> EDT = +? UTC
21:01:19 <bwolfe> 4 I think
21:01:27 <Keelhaul> UTC - 4 i think
21:01:34 <pakon> tnx
21:02:17 <pakon> 6am in Kursk - .oO
21:02:24 <Keelhaul> lol
21:03:45 <pakon> all: good night - we will have HOT summer ;)
21:03:50 <Mkop2> it's 5 pm now in EDT, you can calculate from that
21:04:03 <Keelhaul> dinner bbl
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21:16:53 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7215]: serialization: Merging trunk into serialization branch [7193]:[7214] <> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7214]: serialization branch: Fixed liquibase update-to-latest file due to failing … <> || OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #1369 (task created): Javadoc Comments in <>
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21:36:00 <unimauri> hi all
21:36:08 <nribeka> hi unimauri
21:36:25 <unimauri> i want to participate in GSoC
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21:37:02 <bwolfe> unimauri: have you seen our gsoc page ?
21:37:04 <bwolfe> !gsoc2009
21:37:04 <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: "gsoc2009" ---
21:37:27 <unimauri> yeah
21:37:54 <bwolfe> cool
21:38:08 <bwolfe> any specific questions about any of the projects, or are you just here to chat? :-)
21:38:15 <bwolfe> (either is perfectly fine really)
21:38:39 <bwolfe> unimauri: but since you're here, you might as well get the "bonus" information that other IRC'ers get!
21:38:42 <bwolfe> !bwolfesays
21:38:42 <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: "bwolfesays" --- FYI to all potential GSoC Applicants: OpenMRS welcomes multiple applications for multiple projects within openmrs. Actually, we encourage it! Sometimes we get quality students only applying to a low priority project. So pick a few projects that interest you, apply to all of them, and put comments in them saying which other ones you've applied to
21:38:47 <bwolfe> !bwolfealsosays
21:38:47 <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: "bwolfealsosays" --- To greatly increase your chances of getting accepted by openmrs you should demonstrate your knowledge/skills in both java and potentially openmrs. The best way to do that is to finish a few small tickets. Type !trivialtickets and !introtickets for links to some that we have defined.
21:38:56 <nribeka> haha ... :D
21:39:05 <nribeka> wow it's all from bwolfe
21:41:30 * r0bby already demonstrated
21:41:42 * r0bby points to his blog
21:41:52 <r0bby> i think that MAY have helped me
21:44:27 <bwolfe> what helped you r0bby ?
21:44:38 <r0bby> all the java 7 playing i did
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21:46:30 <kane77> !trivialtickets
21:46:30 <OpenMRSBot> kane77: "trivialtickets" ---
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21:48:59 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7219]: Fix failing unit tests caused by leaving in a reference to a deleted … <> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7218]: Fix failing unit tests caused by leaving in a reference to a deleted … <> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7217]: serialization: Deleting branch following merge back to trunk. <> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7216]: Merging serialization branch into trunk. <>
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22:21:05 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7220]: Added more javadoc fixes - #143 Author: mkopinsky <>
22:23:13 <r0bby> Mkop2: damn :)
22:23:17 <r0bby> you're a shoe-in :)
22:23:22 <Mkop2> what?
22:23:33 <r0bby> you're on a javadoc-spree
22:23:46 <Mkop2> I *was* on a javadoc spree
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22:24:05 <Mkop2> it's now ended, pending this one thing
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22:24:20 <Mkop2> what do you mean "shoe-in"?
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22:25:45 <r0bby> Mkop2: i think you'll get it :)
22:25:53 <r0bby> I hope anyways
22:25:53 <Mkop2> I hope so
22:26:26 <r0bby> I want to get in too, but i'm not self centered :)
22:26:40 <r0bby> What am I saying, i'm deliberately withholding what projects i applied to :x
22:26:52 <Mkop2> I brought it from 994 javadoc warnings or something like that to 77
22:26:58 <r0bby> NICE!
22:27:19 <Mkop2> a lot of them could have been fixed with regexes or the like
22:27:37 <Mkop2> s/@see {@link $1 }/@see $1/g
22:27:50 <Mkop2> except that the $1 thing doesn't really work in sed, but you get the idea
22:28:47 <r0bby> heh
22:28:56 <r0bby> {@link } is handy :)
22:29:05 <r0bby> I've used it.
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22:38:35 <Mkop2> link is good, but you can't use it in combination with @see
22:38:45 <Mkop2> @see already puts a link
22:41:27 <Keelhaul> - Refactor all Openmrs model objects to implement either OpenmrsMetadata or OpenmrsData
22:41:36 <Keelhaul> this looks like a good task for people who want to get to know openmrs
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23:04:39 <rama> hi
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23:08:37 <Mkop2> hi, rama
23:09:57 <bwolfe> hi rama
23:11:48 <Keelhaul> bwolfe:
23:11:50 <OpenMRSBot> <> (at
23:11:53 <Keelhaul> in 720p
23:11:57 <Keelhaul> better than on the wii, actually =o
23:14:44 <rama> i would like to know more about "WYSIWYG form designer" module
23:19:52 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: doesn't look very hd to me
23:20:12 <Keelhaul> it does look better than on the wii though
23:20:23 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: and I'm not an SSB fan
23:20:29 <Keelhaul> me neither
23:20:34 <Keelhaul> i bought it out of curiosity
23:20:45 <Keelhaul> its not like there are many great games
23:23:08 <greendots> that video is really impresive keelhaul
23:25:16 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #1370 (defect closed): Obs Group Data Export module exports voided obs <> || OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #1370 (defect created): Obs Group Data Export module exports voided obs <> || OpenMRS Modules: Obs Group Export Module 1.1 uploaded to OpenMRS Module Repository <>
23:25:47 <greendots> i didnt realize dolphin could emulate the wii too
23:26:31 <Keelhaul> apparently it's only ssbb for now
23:26:41 <Keelhaul> but quite sophisticated already
23:28:46 <bwolfe> Mkop2: ahahah, I just did a package-javadoc-api and there are 128 warnings. Looks like Mike's commit of the serialization stuff has a lot of them. :-/
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23:29:50 <Mkop2> hey ben, is that your baseballgunbat sitting in the corner over there?
23:31:28 <Mkop2> !learn baseballgunbat as Mkop2's tool of wrath for people who add more javadoc warnings to the pile
23:31:28 <OpenMRSBot> Mkop2: The operation succeeded.
23:31:35 <Mkop2> !baseballgunbat
23:31:35 <OpenMRSBot> Mkop2: "baseballgunbat" --- (#1) bwolfe's preferred debugging tool, or (#2) Mkop2's tool of wrath for people who add more javadoc warnings to the pile
23:40:49 <r0bby> :P:!
23:41:01 * r0bby sighs
23:48:54 <bwolfe> rama: what more did you want to know ?
23:56:21 * r0bby sighs
23:56:27 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7223]: Adding update url to Obs Group Export module. This will be version 1.2 on … <> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7222]: Fixing #1370 - Obs Group Data Export module exports voided obs <> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7221]: Fixing #1370 - Obs Group Data Export module exports voided obs <> || OpenMRS Modules: Obs Group Export Module 1.2 uploaded to OpenMRS Module Repository <>
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