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00:00:15 <bwolfe> the initial wizard will not be backported to 1.4
00:00:29 <andrewaclt> oh okay
00:01:19 <Keelhaul> are any of the project implementations supposed to work in 1.4 at all?
00:01:33 <Keelhaul> cept maybe the html form designer
00:02:55 <Keelhaul> bwolfe: are there any other ways to add drug orders besides the regimens tab?
00:04:30 <bwolfe> the admin screen has some basic non user intuitive stuff
00:05:03 <Keelhaul> yea
00:05:07 <Keelhaul> and i never got it to work =/
00:08:25 <bwolfe> its been updated in the last month or so
00:08:42 <nribeka> dinner time guys :)
00:08:45 <Keelhaul> i have a pretty recent trunk
00:08:58 <Keelhaul> i get a ConstraintViolationEx hmm
00:09:07 <Mkop2> remind me, what's it mean when a method parameter is final?
00:10:04 <Keelhaul> that it wont be modified in the method
00:14:56 <Keelhaul> ERROR - JDBCExceptionReporter.logExceptions(78) |2009-03-26 01:07:46,127| Cannot add or update a child row: a foreign key constraint fails (`openmrs`.`orders`, CONSTRAINT `type_of_order` FOREIGN KEY (`order_type_id`) REFERENCES `order_type` (`order_type_id`))
00:14:58 <Keelhaul> hm
00:18:16 <Keelhaul> i did select an order type
00:18:28 <Keelhaul> is it expecting a specific name string, maybe?
00:23:12 <bwolfe> it might be expecting a Drug order
00:23:18 <bwolfe> which is Order Type 2 I think
00:24:10 <Keelhaul> oh
00:24:13 <Keelhaul> my table was empty
00:24:17 <Keelhaul> so i added a drug order type
00:24:19 <Keelhaul> which is 1 now
00:24:38 <Mkop2> Keelhaul: thanks
00:26:56 <Keelhaul> bwolfe: you were right
00:27:08 <Keelhaul> no offense but
00:27:21 <Keelhaul> the way orders are issued now is really unimpressive =/
00:27:39 <Keelhaul> and what is "related concept" for if i have to select a defined drug anyway
00:31:06 <bwolfe> yeah, sucks
00:32:00 <Keelhaul> bwolfe: is there a way to add drugs to the regimens tab w/o having to copy the xml document to a local file, edit it, then paste it back into the global prop?
00:32:19 <bwolfe> I don't know
00:32:30 <Keelhaul> maybe a table and a proper form would do better
00:49:44 <Mkop2> bwolfe: 236
00:51:50 <bwolfe> huh?
00:56:26 <Mkop2> bwolfe: what am I counting?
00:56:31 <Mkop2> you tell me
00:57:02 <bwolfe> the current number of future NSync candidates you've interviewed ?
01:02:24 <Keelhaul> =D
01:02:58 <Keelhaul> Mkop2: matches?
01:03:08 <Mkop2> javadoc errorss
01:06:58 <bwolfe> shoot, my next guess was the length of your guiness-record-holding pinky toenail
01:07:31 <bwolfe> or maybe your IQ
01:07:43 <bwolfe> or the number of monkeys currently living in your dorm room
01:08:17 <bwolfe> or your guess for the number of jelly beans in the jar on my desk
01:09:11 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Forum: Re: Google Summer Of Code 2009 <>
01:12:54 <Mkop2> hehe
01:12:59 <Mkop2> my roommate had eye surgery today
01:13:13 <Mkop2> and some people came and gave him and his girlfriend matching decorated eye patches
01:14:45 <Keelhaul> what are jelly beans
01:16:21 <Mkop2> Keelhaul: ?!?!?
01:16:46 <Keelhaul> i'm sure i've had them before, just not sure what we call em
01:16:55 <Mkop2> Keelhaul: Gelee Bohne :-)
01:16:59 <Keelhaul> =o
01:17:03 <Keelhaul> nope
01:17:07 <Keelhaul> are they like m&ms?
01:17:10 <Mkop2> no
01:17:15 <Mkop2> they're soft and sugary
01:17:17 <Mkop2> no chocolate
01:17:32 <Keelhaul>
01:17:32 <Keelhaul> hm
01:17:36 <OpenMRSBot> <> (at
01:17:40 <Keelhaul> i'm not sure i've had them
01:17:44 <Keelhaul> maybe many years ago
01:17:53 <Mkop2> normal jelly beans aren't multicolored like that
01:17:57 <Keelhaul> how soft are they?
01:18:09 <Keelhaul> gummy bear soft or mentos soft?
01:18:14 <Mkop2> depends how fresh they are...
01:18:19 <Mkop2> somewhere in between
01:19:06 <Mkop2> Keelhaul: it's not Geleebohnen ?
01:19:28 <Mkop2> or Geleebonbon?
01:21:28 <Keelhaul> if i search for "geleebohnen" i only get the "jelly belly" trademark as result
01:21:45 <Keelhaul> seems like jelly beans are exotic here
01:23:31 <Mkop2> interesting
01:25:16 <Mkop2> Keelhaul:
01:25:20 <OpenMRSBot> <> (at
01:27:36 <Keelhaul> Mkop2: tbqh, it looks like chemicals to me
01:27:43 <Mkop2> lol
01:28:30 <Keelhaul>
01:28:32 <OpenMRSBot> <> (at
01:29:35 <Mkop2> Keelhaul: you jerk
01:29:55 <Mkop2> just because you have more real candy than us, doesn't mean you're better than
01:30:03 <Keelhaul> no?
01:30:23 <Keelhaul> i try to stay away from sweets most of the time
01:30:26 <Keelhaul> one piece a day is enough
01:32:48 <Mkop2> when you have quality stuff, one piece actually satisfies your craving, in many cases
01:33:18 <Keelhaul> well i dont eat THAT kinda stuff
01:33:25 <Keelhaul> you have to actually go to brussels for that =P
01:33:28 <Mkop2> oh
01:33:35 <Keelhaul> or some fancy store
01:33:42 <Keelhaul> we have some similar stuff i think
01:33:45 <Keelhaul> but not belgian quality
01:33:55 <Keelhaul> although i'm sure i woudlnt notice a difference
01:35:06 <Mkop2> stupid me
01:35:09 <Mkop2> forgot to make a phone call
01:35:20 <Mkop2> was supposed to call the guy right back, but forgot
01:35:22 <Mkop2> 15 minutes ago
01:35:39 <Keelhaul> your potential mentor?
01:35:48 <Mkop2> no
01:36:11 <Mkop2> lab group member for school
01:39:18 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Forum: Re: Google Summer Of Code 2009 <> || OpenMRS Forum: Re: Google Summer Of Code 2009 <>
01:39:24 <Mkop2> OpenMRSBot: hi
01:39:24 <OpenMRSBot> Mkop2: Error: "hi" is not a valid command.
01:39:29 <Mkop2> OpenMRSBot: gsoc
01:39:30 <OpenMRSBot> Mkop2: "gsoc" --- (#1), or (#2), or (#3)
01:40:12 <Mkop2> OpenMRSBot: learn baseballgunbat as bwolfe's preferred debugging tool
01:40:12 <OpenMRSBot> Mkop2: The operation succeeded.
01:40:21 <Mkop2> can you tell i'm a bit bored?
01:43:42 <Keelhaul> dont you have 236 warnings to fix? =P
01:46:30 <Mkop2> I can't fix any more tonight
01:47:01 <Mkop2> or I'll go crazy and start using bwolfe's preferred debugging tool
01:47:56 <nribeka> ah no sgrannis tonight
01:48:22 <nribeka> bwolfe + everyone, if you sgrannis please tell him that i already fall asleep ;)
01:48:59 <Mkop2> !seen sgrannis
01:48:59 <OpenMRSBot> Mkop2: sgrannis was last seen in #openmrs 5 hours, 46 minutes, and 51 seconds ago: <sgrannis> to work on till the end of the month?
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01:57:26 <Mkop2> whoa, python is cool
02:09:23 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7168]: Added log4j.xml descriptor file for junit tests only - #660 <>
02:10:21 <andrewaclt> Is this an easy bug to fix:
02:13:30 <nribeka> try tickets marked as intro or trivial andrewaclt
02:13:45 <andrewaclt> Well, that's the one blocking me :)
02:14:15 <andrewaclt> but I figured with no Hibernate or Spring experience I'm probably going to not be helpful at all
02:15:24 <Mkop2> andrewaclt: there's a lot you can do without hibernate or spring
02:15:55 <bwolfe> andrewaclt: put a Context.openSession() and Context.closeSession() into the InitializationFilter class near the final code
02:16:19 <bwolfe> andrewaclt: do a control-shift-t in eclipse to find the InitializationFilter class
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02:28:21 <Keelhaul> bwolfe: why is still open?
02:28:29 <Keelhaul> oh nm
02:28:44 <Keelhaul> i cant read
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02:36:04 <Mkop2> Keelhaul: you can't read where it says "closed"?
02:36:20 <andrewaclt> What exactly is a "unit of work"?
02:39:26 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7169]: serialization branch: Changes following discussion on the dev list … <>
02:41:07 <Mkop2> andrewaclt: in the context you're looking at, it means any code that uses the Context
02:42:28 <bwolfe> Mkop2: you can't use "context" when talking about the "Context". its just confusing. :-)
02:42:36 <Mkop2> lol
02:44:23 <andrewaclt> Mkop2 thanks
02:46:42 <Mkop2> I don't know if that was any help
02:47:01 <Mkop2> as for me, I would have NO idea how to figure out which code uses the Context
02:47:17 <andrewaclt> Well, there are a bunch of Context.fcn() calls
02:47:46 <nribeka> Context.auth ... lots of them are in junit :)
02:48:06 <andrewaclt> I'm assuming if there is a function that makes multiple calls I can just put at the start and end of the function?
02:48:29 <andrewaclt> by multiple calls I mean Context.blahlbah
02:48:41 <andrewaclt> ...probably a dumb question.
02:50:07 <andrewaclt> At least I got a different error: Cannot initialize context because there is already a root application context present - check whether you have multiple ContextLoader* definitions in your web.xml!
02:50:14 <Mkop2> andrewaclt: seems to make sense based on what Ben said in the ticket - make sure that before any Context.blah calls there's a Context.openSession(), and make sure that after everything, there's a context.closeSession()
02:50:39 <bwolfe> bingo
02:50:39 <Mkop2> andrewaclt: full disclosure - I'm a newbie here. I don't actually _know_ anything, I'm just guessing
02:51:00 <Mkop2> bwolfe, on the other hand, knows all
02:51:10 * Mkop2 salutes bwolfe
02:53:46 <Mkop2> bwolfe: I'm thinking... all over the code there are methods whose only javadoc is @see, such as a class which just says to @see the interface. Should I change those to $inheritdoc?
02:54:06 <Mkop2> {@inheritdoc}*
02:55:23 <bwolfe> Mkop2: didn't know that existed
02:55:31 <Mkop2> I think most of the time the @see is just an extra link making the docs more cumbersome. The javadocs for *Service should appear for *ServiceImpl as well
02:55:32 <bwolfe> eclipse puts in the @see
02:55:39 <Mkop2> oh, it does?
02:56:54 <andrewaclt> whoever wrote the ant build likes growl.
02:57:21 <bwolfe> I agree that it makes it more cumbersome. I thought javadoc was smart enough to translate a singluar @see into something magical
02:57:31 <Mkop2> oh wait, it automatically does the inheritance
02:57:36 <bwolfe> but if theres an explicit doc tag for doing the impl stuff
02:57:48 <Mkop2>
02:57:50 <OpenMRSBot> <$> (at
02:58:22 <Mkop2> I think it's not the @see which is magical, just the lack of any commenting which is magical
02:58:39 <Mkop2> let me look at the javadocs
02:58:46 <bwolfe> ah, ok, that makes more sense actually :-)
03:01:51 <Mkop2> yeah, that's what it is
03:01:53 <Mkop2> ok
03:02:22 <Mkop2> I went today and deleted (almost) all the @author tags
03:02:30 <Mkop2> there were a few that I wasn't sure whether to keep or get rid of
03:02:39 <Mkop2> I figured if I recognize the name, get rid of it
03:02:54 <Mkop2> got rid of bwolfe, justin, darius,
03:03:02 <sdefabbiakane> Mkop2: magical is not exactly the word to describe the API documentation :P
03:03:12 <Mkop2> lol
03:03:20 <Mkop2> by the time I'm done though....
03:03:26 <Mkop2> :-)
03:03:49 <Mkop2> * @author - should i keep that or not?
03:04:11 <Keelhaul> whoever it was, his address is logged now
03:04:14 <Mkop2> there are two files authored by vanand
03:04:29 <Keelhaul> and i think openmrs doesnt take kindly to devs putting their name in
03:04:57 <Mkop2> isn't the code googleable in any case?
03:05:12 <nribeka> ask bwolfe to clean it up :)
03:05:22 <Mkop2> I was told that except in certain exceptional cases we keep the @author tag
03:05:59 <Mkop2> there are also 2 files written by a Matt Raible
03:06:08 <Mkop2> bwolfe: should I get rid of all those attributions?
03:07:49 <nribeka> i think that name sounds familiar
03:09:35 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #660 (enhancement closed): Alternate logging descriptor file for junit tests <> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7171]: Merging trunk into serialization branch [7143]:[7170] <> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7170]: Followup fix for junit log4j file - #660 - [7168] <>
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03:19:20 <Mkop2> lol
03:19:24 <Mkop2> some comments are funny
03:19:27 <Mkop2> * Get the drug headers...whatever those are. Ask Djazayeri
03:20:20 <sdefabbiakane> heh
03:20:42 <Mkop2> another one:
03:20:44 <Mkop2> * Does some fancy stuff. TODO djazayeri, please comment
03:22:18 <nribeka> the idea is to entertain you Mkop2
03:22:19 <nribeka> :D
03:22:34 <Mkop2> yet another: /**
03:22:34 <Mkop2> * Email-bomb djazayeri about what this method does.
03:23:17 <andrewaclt> umm
03:23:27 <andrewaclt> Can you diff in eclipse?
03:23:57 <andrewaclt> I fixed the bug
03:24:23 <Mkop2> andrewaclt: yes, you can. I don't use subclipse, but I think it's something like Team
03:24:43 <Mkop2> upload a file called something like 1350.patch
03:24:49 <Mkop2> attach it to the ticket
03:25:08 <andrewaclt> wow thanks
03:25:27 <andrewaclt> I googled for 10 minutes and couldn't get the answer.
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03:27:33 <Mkop2> "IRC is just a fancy google frontend but with more insults"
03:28:31 <Mkop2> but no insults here in #openmrs
03:28:43 <Mkop2> never........
03:31:24 <andrewaclt> wow, ugly patch, fat fingers hit a key in a comment
03:31:37 <Mkop2> Ctrl-Z
03:31:46 <Mkop2> or delete the lines from the patch
03:32:23 <Mkop2> also, delete C:\Documents and Settings\....
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03:32:29 <nribeka1> sometimes there is Mkop2 :D
03:32:51 <Mkop2> nribeka1: no there aren't, you friggin moron
03:32:56 <Mkop2> :-P
03:32:57 <nribeka1> hahaha
03:33:23 <nribeka1> bwolfe is not here so you're safe. but not tomorrow when he reads the log :D
03:33:24 <nribeka1> lol
03:33:27 <andrewaclt> Mkop2 I uploaded the patch and then saw my typo :/ I can't delete an attachment I made in trac can I?
03:33:41 <Mkop2> andrewaclt: yes you can
03:33:43 <nribeka1> you can override andrewaclt
03:33:55 <andrewaclt> It uploaded as 1350.2.patch
03:33:55 <Mkop2> upload a new file with the same name and click the checkbox
03:34:00 <andrewaclt> I fail.
03:34:19 <Mkop2> andrewaclt: you'll NEVER succeed in openmrs! bwahahahaa
03:34:22 <Mkop2> lol
03:34:34 <Mkop2> just put a comment saying to ignore the first fail
03:35:02 <Mkop2> andrewaclt: in case that wasn't clear, I was saying that little things like that don't make a difference
03:35:11 <Mkop2> so you made a little mistake, oh well
03:35:21 <andrewaclt> Yeah, hopefully it's clear. I have to go to bed, class in the morning.
03:35:34 <Mkop2> andrewaclt: where do you live?
03:35:37 <Mkop2> or go to school?
03:36:26 <andrewaclt> North Carolina State University
03:37:16 <Mkop2> cool
03:37:21 <Mkop2> you study computer science?
03:37:31 <andrewaclt> Yeah, and math up until this semester :)
03:38:31 <andrewaclt> anyway, cya
03:38:32 <Mkop2> why'd you drop math?
03:38:43 <Mkop2> if you have to go to sleep, feel free to leave
03:38:57 <Mkop2> we'll talk another time
03:38:59 <andrewaclt> I'm about two semesters behind, and I didn't want to stick around for another year
03:39:04 <andrewaclt> math wise
03:39:10 <Mkop2> oh
03:39:18 <Mkop2> I have a cousin who's a math/CS major
03:39:21 <andrewaclt> I figured best to graduate and go to grad school instead of picking up the math degree
03:39:26 <Mkop2> complete genius
03:39:41 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: Ben Wolfe: Java URLConnection Redirects Between http and https <>
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03:39:45 <Mkop2> he was in a facebook group "U of I freshman in a 300-level math class"
03:41:13 <sdefabbiakane> what was the class, though?
03:41:27 <Mkop2> idk
03:41:31 <Mkop2> calc 5, something insane
03:41:50 <Mkop2> it wasn't one of those 300-level classes that they call 300-level for the heck of it
03:41:54 <sdefabbiakane> mm
03:42:07 <sdefabbiakane> calc. so glad I'm done with calc.
03:42:09 <Mkop2> it was because he had already covered the stuff in the 200-level calculus classes
03:44:43 <Mkop2> why does dumb end with a b but column ends with an n?
03:45:15 <sdefabbiakane> because the English language does lots of things that make no sense?
03:46:24 <Keelhaul> worcestershire sauce =)
03:46:32 <Mkop2> I discovered that when my hand was accidentally typing columb each time
03:46:39 <sdefabbiakane> haha
03:50:43 <r0bby> yeh turns out my friend doesnt wanna work on my module
03:50:49 <r0bby> miscommunication
03:51:15 <Mkop2> you mean greendots?
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03:52:16 <r0bby> si
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05:22:31 <upul> Hi Mkop2
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05:22:58 <Mkop2> hi and run
05:23:40 <sdefabbiakane> ah, that's a good phrase for it
05:23:44 <sdefabbiakane> I was trying to think of one
05:23:47 <sdefabbiakane> and failed miserably
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05:27:47 <catechu> hi everyone
05:27:59 <upul> hi catechu
05:28:18 <sdefabbiakane> hello
05:28:23 <catechu> I'm a student interested in working on OpenMRS for the summer through GSoC
05:28:42 <upul> great
05:28:47 <upul> you can find details here
05:28:50 <upul> !soc
05:28:50 <OpenMRSBot> upul: "soc" --- (#1), or (#2), or (#3)
05:28:56 <catechu> yes
05:29:01 <catechu> that page led me to this channel haha
05:29:17 <catechu> thank you
05:29:26 <upul> !bwolfe
05:29:26 <OpenMRSBot> upul: "bwolfe" --- is a Jedi
05:29:37 <upul> wrong one :-)
05:29:42 <upul> !bwolfesays
05:29:42 <OpenMRSBot> upul: "bwolfesays" --- FYI to all potential GSoC Applicants: OpenMRS welcomes multiple applications for multiple projects within openmrs. Actually, we encourage it! Sometimes we get quality students only applying to a low priority project. So pick a few projects that interest you, apply to all of them, and put comments in them saying which other ones you've applied to
05:30:21 <catechu> yes
05:30:39 <catechu> so the list of potential projects is marked to be re-organized
05:31:08 <upul> it is updated from time to time
05:31:35 <catechu> I'm interested in the "Approximate Date Support" project, but I can't find the ticket (T:430) that it corresponds to
05:31:54 <catechu> does re-organized mean that projects such as these will be scrapped?
05:32:02 <sdefabbiakane> that one's not one of the gsoc ones, I think
05:32:23 <catechu> in which case I am confused
05:32:28 <catechu> because on the "Projects" page
05:32:28 <upul> catechu: those ones marked with the gsoc icon are potential projects which can be finished during the period
05:32:40 <catechu> ah ok
05:32:51 <upul> this is a projects page not only used for gsoc
05:33:16 <catechu> I understood that, but I didn't catch the gsoc icon -- thanks for pointing that out, upul
05:33:58 <sdefabbiakane> The gsoc ones are all grouped at the top, and then there's a header that says 'other projects' that separates the two groups. Although it's not especially visible if you're not looking for it.
05:35:07 <catechu> sdefabbiakane: thanks! that clears up my confusion
05:35:24 <sdefabbiakane> catechu: no problem!
05:38:45 <catechu> I am interested in taking a look at the code -- is development normally done through the "OpenMRS Development Studio"? or do you have another standard development workflow?
05:39:15 <sdefabbiakane> the source is packaged as an eclipse project
05:39:58 <sdefabbiakane> so that's your best bet if you want to download it
05:40:18 <sdefabbiakane> it's also viewable online through trac
05:40:48 <sdefabbiakane> although if you're not sure exactly what you're looking for that's going to get difficult fast with a project the size of OpenMRS
05:41:24 <Mkop2> catechu:
05:42:13 <catechu> Mkop2: thanks! I just found the "Contribute" page, I was looking under "Downloads"
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06:15:56 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Forum: Error 404i in Hello World module <>
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07:10:35 <pv78> hi
07:10:39 <sdefabbiakane> hello
07:11:36 <pv78> any body can help..? i am getting error in helloworld module the error is {The page "/openmrs/module/helloworld/addResponse.form" cannot be found.}
07:11:40 <pv78> hi
07:14:31 <pv78> i am getting error in helloworld module the error is {The page "/openmrs/module/helloworld/addResponse.form" cannot be found.}
07:14:43 <Mkop2> pv78: repeating yourself won't help
07:15:38 <Mkop2> no one here and awake is really familiar with the system
07:16:03 <Mkop2> come back in the day or evening (USA time) and ask then - there's more likely to be someone who can help you
07:17:12 <pv78> ok thanx
07:17:24 <sdefabbiakane> if you give me a minute I may be able to
07:17:28 <sdefabbiakane> taking a look at the source right now
07:17:37 <pv78> yeh plz
07:17:41 <sdefabbiakane> although I don't have an openmrs install on this computer to play with
07:21:52 <sdefabbiakane> ok, I'm kind of shooting around in the dark a bit because I haven't worked much on OpenMRS in a few months and I am not in a situation where I can actually test anything I'm saying, but what it sounds like to me is that the form controller is not being found.
07:23:08 <sdefabbiakane> helloworld.metadata.moduleApplicationContext.xml points the url /module/helloworld/addResponse.form to the addResponseForm bean, which in turn points to the AddResponseFormController class, which it's expecting to be compiled and sitting in helloworld.web
07:23:56 <sdefabbiakane> so my guess is that AddResponseFormController was not compiled to the right location
07:27:57 <Mkop2> sdefabbiakane: you've worked on openmrs in the past? I thought you were a newbie like me
07:29:11 <pv78> i think the issue is not with the AddResponseFormControler as the same controler is dealt with viewHelloWorld and this is working fine
07:32:09 <sdefabbiakane> Mkop2: sort of. I took a class last semester that was a software development class with a focus on open source software. we broke up into teams and each developed a visit register module for OpenMRS for a clinic in I think Uganda. So I've had experience developing an OpenMRS module, yes, but that module has not yet actually been used for anything, and since Darius has a bunch to choose from...
07:32:11 <sdefabbiakane> ...may or may not be.
07:32:56 <sdefabbiakane> pv78 when you try to access /module/helloworld/addResponse.form what shows up in your log? anything from AddResponseFormController?
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07:36:10 <pv78> no i didnot find anything fromController
07:36:43 <sdefabbiakane> hmm
07:40:42 <sdefabbiakane> agh. browsing openmrs with trac is painful.
07:42:32 <pv78> yeah
07:44:58 <sdefabbiakane> so you said viewHelloWorld worked, right?
07:45:02 <Mkop2> where is the helloworld module? is it online somewhere? or do you need to compile it from the source code?
07:45:16 <sdefabbiakane> it's in modules directory on trac
07:45:23 <sdefabbiakane> you need to compile it
07:47:04 <sdefabbiakane> hmm.
07:52:06 <pv78> i download it and from openmrs SVN and have compiled it
07:53:11 <sdefabbiakane> pv78: you said viewHelloWorld worked, right?
07:54:19 <pv78> yes
07:54:42 <sdefabbiakane> ok, when you access it, are you getting anything in the logs? if so, what?
08:01:43 <pv78> nothing found there
08:04:07 <sdefabbiakane> hmm. alright, well, I have a pretty strong feeling I'm missing something obvious right now, but I'm three quarters asleep, so I don't think I'm going to figure out what it is tonight, sorry =/
08:06:09 <pv78> ok. TC and have nice sleep
08:06:24 <sdefabbiakane> thanks
08:06:26 <sdefabbiakane> night
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08:42:17 <jasembo> Hi am Edmund new to openMRS like the idea of the Longitudinal Data Review. Anyone with an idea how to go about it.
08:44:26 <upul> !soc
08:44:26 <OpenMRSBot> upul: "soc" --- (#1), or (#2), or (#3)
08:44:47 <upul> jasembo: Hi, I hope you read these pages
08:45:18 <upul> you can meet the openmrs developers in around 5 hours from now
08:45:38 <upul> or you can subscribe to the mailing lists and ask questions if you have
08:45:50 <upul> !bwolfesays
08:45:50 <OpenMRSBot> upul: "bwolfesays" --- FYI to all potential GSoC Applicants: OpenMRS welcomes multiple applications for multiple projects within openmrs. Actually, we encourage it! Sometimes we get quality students only applying to a low priority project. So pick a few projects that interest you, apply to all of them, and put comments in them saying which other ones you've applied to
08:48:18 <upul> This page has details on how to subscribe to the mailing lists ,
08:50:17 <jasembo> I've just gone through them. And if I may ask might the registration have been extended?
08:50:54 <upul> no that I know of, it's the same date
08:50:57 <jasembo> That is registration for GSoC Applications.
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08:52:12 <upul> jasembo: till april 3rd
08:52:15 <jasembo> Had been set for 13th April; today is 26th April unless I am wrong?
08:52:46 <upul> jasembo: it's march 26th
08:53:08 <upul> application deadline is till the end of next week, april 3rd
08:53:22 <upul> open for about 2 weeks
08:53:46 <upul> this one has the time line
08:53:50 <OpenMRSBot> <> (at
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08:58:29 <anas> hello there
08:58:49 <upul> Hi anas
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08:59:51 <jasembo> Am still here.
09:00:22 <jasembo> Derailed by other stuff.
09:00:53 <upul> where are you from jasembo?
09:02:03 <jasembo> Am in Kenya, a town known as Eldoret re-known for producing athletes.
09:02:37 <jasembo> What about you upul?
09:02:47 <upul> I'm from Sri Lanka
09:03:38 <jasembo> Nice meeting you.
09:03:53 <upul> nice meeting you too
09:07:25 <jasembo> Are you registered for any project?
09:07:50 <upul> i have applied for one just yet, going to apply for several more
09:10:33 <upul> have you heard of this
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09:17:06 <upul> jasembo: have you heard of this
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09:29:30 <jasembo> upul: Sorry for taking long to respond. Am working btwn many things.
09:30:13 <upul> nope, just to let you know, i think this runs yearly, (as far as i know)
09:30:48 <jasembo> upul: I had not heard of it but, am looking through it now.
09:56:01 <jasembo> upul: Nice time, I have to leave now.
09:56:14 <upul> jasembo: ok, see you
09:58:41 <scottyaz> hello. Does anyone know where i can find a list of the latest concepts in openmrs?
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10:04:02 <upul> scottyaz: I'm not sure whether there is a defined set of concepts, you can check back in around 4 hours when the openmrs developers log in
10:05:04 <scottyaz> upul: thanks
10:21:45 <upul> scottyaz: Have you seen this
10:21:47 <OpenMRSBot> <> (at
10:28:04 <scottyaz> upol: thanks i will have a look
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12:15:23 <pv78> hi all
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12:18:41 <pv78> i havent change any of ur code (helloworldmodule) as i am new to openmrs i just wana learn how i submit my data to a custome table
12:19:38 <bwolfe> this one pv78?
12:19:40 <OpenMRSBot> <> (at
12:20:11 <pv78> yes
12:21:14 <bwolfe> hmm
12:21:15 <bwolfe> ok
12:21:20 <bwolfe> loading the page for the first time works ?
12:21:25 <bwolfe> but its just after submitting ?
12:21:34 <pv78> yes
12:21:48 <bwolfe> odd
12:22:04 <bwolfe> I haven't tried the helloworld module in a long long time
12:22:29 <pv78> that is ery benificial for the newbei like me
12:22:31 <bwolfe> pv78: is the controller doing a return new RedirectView(...) or a return showForm(..) ?
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12:25:24 <pv78> <property name="successView"><value>addResponse.form</value></property>
12:25:41 <bwolfe> pv78: open the AddResponseFormController file
12:25:49 <bwolfe> thats what I meant by controller
12:25:53 <pv78> yes i open it
12:29:11 <pv78> no there is no such return statement
12:29:42 <pv78> formBackingObject() return a text string
12:31:04 <pv78>
12:31:20 <bwolfe> ?
12:31:24 <bwolfe> nothign at that link
12:32:04 <pv78>
12:32:21 <pv78> i have pasted the controler code at
12:32:38 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Forum: Re: Error 404i in Hello World module <> || OpenMRS Forum: Re: Error 404i in Hello World module <>
12:32:51 <bwolfe> odd, so there is no onSubmit method ??
12:33:16 <pv78> yes
12:33:35 <bwolfe> so thats why you pasted in the "<property name="successView"><value>addResponse.form</value></property>"! :-)
12:33:55 <bwolfe> try changing that to redirect:addResponse.form
12:34:30 <pv78> where please?
12:34:53 <bwolfe> in the spring moduleApplicationContext.xml file
12:35:02 <bwolfe> change the <value> to that
12:37:43 <pv78> please is this correct <property name="successView"><value>redirect:addResponse.form</value></property>
12:38:54 <bwolfe> yeah
12:40:39 <pv78> but now it do nothing but append the url wit ?helloWorldObject=Not+used
12:41:17 <pv78> while the added response should be displayed unde the input form
12:41:18 <bwolfe> hmm
12:41:54 <bwolfe> but if there isn't an onSubmit method in the controller doing anything...
12:42:44 <bwolfe> pv78: it looks like that is what the controller is told to I think its working "right"...its just not working how you would expect! :-)
12:46:12 <pv78> ok
12:46:28 <pv78> thanx for your coopration
12:47:49 <bwolfe> pv78: if you want to clean that up and make it work a little smart (or work at all) we can get a patch in. it'd be great for anybody else coming along to try it
12:48:03 <bwolfe> just make a ticket for it and a attach a patch to that and we can commit it for you
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12:49:48 <pv78> ok
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12:51:16 <pv78> i open a new ticket? or continue with <>
12:51:23 <OpenMRSBot> <> (at
12:55:07 <bwolfe> both. :-) post your solution to the forum so that if people stumble upon it later they see the answer. but in the forum perhaps just link to a ticket you create with the patch on that
12:56:48 <pv78> ok
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13:08:34 <nimanthab> hello
13:08:53 <nimanthab> need help in launching openmrs for the first time
13:08:58 <nimanthab> can anyone plz help me
13:09:19 <nimanthab> the exception i got after the initial wizard finished running was
13:09:33 <nimanthab> A user context must first be passed to setUserContext()...use openSession() (and closeSession() to prevent memory leaks!) before using the API
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13:12:00 <bwolfe> nimanthab: there is a bug in trunk right now that needs to be fixed for that
13:12:48 <nimanthab> oh i see
13:13:20 <nimanthab> i opted to take on ticket #1337 in order to get familiarized with the system
13:13:41 <nimanthab> is there anyway i can still fix the issue?
13:14:19 <bwolfe> nimanthab: you can apply the patch on ticket 1350
13:14:21 <bwolfe> !ticket 1350
13:14:21 <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: Ticket #1350:
13:14:38 <nimanthab> great
13:14:52 <nimanthab> after that will the version i got from the trunk work?
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13:17:02 <bwolfe> yeah
13:19:07 <nimanthab> ok. will try
13:19:15 <nimanthab> thanks a lot bwolfe
13:19:18 <nimanthab> :)
13:31:46 <nimanthab> bwolfe: it worked
13:31:49 <nimanthab> thanks
13:31:51 <nimanthab> :)
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15:50:19 <nribeka> brb
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17:36:31 <bwolfe> ah, cool, the bot is back
17:36:40 <bwolfe> now I can do what I wanted:
17:36:40 <bwolfe> !refer k_nishant [bwolfesays]
17:36:40 * OpenMRSBot refers k_nishant to "bwolfesays" --- FYI to all potential GSoC Applicants: OpenMRS welcomes multiple applications for multiple projects within openmrs. Actually, we encourage it! Sometimes we get quality students only applying to a low priority project. So pick a few projects that interest you, apply to all of them, and put comments in them saying which other ones you've applied to
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17:39:05 <k_nishant> Thanks I'll put up my idea along with the idea listed on ur project priorites
17:39:18 <bwolfe> cool
17:40:45 <nimanthab> bwolfe: i fixed the bug
17:40:51 <nimanthab> yuppeee
17:40:53 <bwolfe> sweet
17:40:54 <nimanthab> :)
17:41:07 <nimanthab> bwolfe: how can i proceed?
17:41:14 <bwolfe> create a patch
17:41:15 <bwolfe> !patches
17:41:15 <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: "patches" ---
17:41:21 <bwolfe> and attach that to the ticket
17:41:35 <bwolfe> whats your username nimanthab ?
17:41:38 <nimanthab> ok
17:41:40 <bwolfe> (on dev)
17:41:48 <nimanthab> its nimanthab
17:41:56 <nimanthab> Nimantha Baranasuriya is the real name
17:42:22 <nimanthab> do i have to accept the ticket before attaching the patch?
17:43:19 <bwolfe> yes
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18:02:32 <nimanthab> bwolfe: i added the patch
18:02:35 <nimanthab>
18:03:07 <nimanthab> can you see whether it is ok. this is the first time i've contributed to an open source project
18:03:10 <nimanthab> :)
18:03:17 <bwolfe> cool
18:03:21 <nimanthab> project of this scale
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18:07:12 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #496 (task closed): minor UI glitch in Manage Obs <>
18:09:49 <nimanthab> bwolfe: have i done it properly?
18:10:31 <bwolfe> I haven't applied it to test it yet
18:11:11 <nimanthab> okioks
18:11:16 <nimanthab> *okidoks
18:11:37 <nimanthab> please send me your feedback once you go through it
18:12:44 <nimanthab> bwolfe: through this ticket and a few others i managed to work with OpenMRS and I found it really interesting
18:13:06 <nimanthab> I am hoping to apply for a few project ideas for gsoc 2009
18:13:32 <bwolfe> good :-)
18:13:40 <bwolfe> let me know if you have any questions
18:13:47 <bwolfe> *any questions I can answer...
18:13:52 <nimanthab> bwolfe: if i send you my draft proposal can you please review it and give you feedback?
18:13:55 <nimanthab> *give me
18:14:09 <bwolfe> yep, thats fine
18:14:19 <nimanthab> great
18:14:20 <bwolfe> I'd suggest you also send it to the mentor assigned
18:14:24 <nimanthab> thanks a lot
18:14:37 <nimanthab> great.. will do that
18:14:56 <nimanthab> im singing off.. it's midnight in Sri Lanka now
18:15:03 <nimanthab> good night
18:15:07 <nimanthab> :)
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18:21:48 <bwolfe> scottyaz / catechu / ankush / antonh_ : welcome! I don't think we've talked... (I apologize if I'm just not remembering)
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18:22:19 <bwolfe> scottyaz / catechu / ankush / antonh_ : I'm a developer/mentor for Openmrs. Are there any questions I can answer for you ?
18:23:22 <ankush> hi bwolfe
18:23:32 <ankush> yeah...we haveen't talked...
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18:24:41 <bwolfe> ankush: I'm assuming you're here for gsoc ?
18:24:42 <bwolfe> :-)
18:24:48 <ankush> its like....i plan to apply for openmrs in gsoc...and for the same i am going through the details of openmrs..
18:24:52 <bwolfe> welcome amit8-88
18:25:02 <amit8-88> hi bwolfe:)
18:25:36 <ankush> but yes, since i am new to open source first i need to keep track of the things..
18:25:56 <ankush> for the same reason...m lurking in the track the discussions :)
18:26:05 <ankush> *IRC
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18:28:27 <tamasiaina> Good afternoon
18:29:08 <bwolfe> hey tamasiaina
18:29:40 <tamasiaina> I have a question aboiut one of the GSOC projects
18:29:49 <bwolfe> ok, go ahead
18:31:00 <tamasiaina> There is a project about an Audit Module being implemented
18:31:28 <tamasiaina> how much experience do you think would be needed prior? about OpenMRS, etc.?
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18:32:42 <bwolfe> we expect students to have no experience with openmrs before gsoc. we expect experience with java/sql/html/etc though. and we expect students to get to know openmrs before the May start date
18:33:09 <tamasiaina> When is the exact start date in May?
18:33:21 <Mkop2> !soc
18:33:21 <OpenMRSBot> Mkop2: "soc" --- (#1), or (#2), or (#3)
18:33:48 <bwolfe> !timeline
18:33:48 <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: "timeline" ---
18:33:56 <bwolfe> hmm, thats not right
18:34:00 <bwolfe> !gsoctimeline
18:34:00 <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: "gsoctimeline" ---
18:34:08 <bwolfe> ah, thats it tamasiaina
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18:34:18 <bwolfe> !bwolfealsosays
18:34:18 <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: "bwolfealsosays" --- To greatly increase your chances of getting accepted by openmrs you should demonstrate your knowledge/skills in both java and potentially openmrs. The best way to do that is to finish a few small tickets. Type !trivialtickets and !introtickets for links to some that we have defined.
18:34:34 <bwolfe> we also suggest that tamasiaina :-)
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18:34:59 <tamasiaina> :)
18:35:04 <tamasiaina> okay
18:35:18 <tamasiaina> !trivialtickets
18:35:18 <OpenMRSBot> tamasiaina: "trivialtickets" ---
18:35:25 <tamasiaina> !introtickets
18:35:25 <OpenMRSBot> tamasiaina: "introtickets" ---
18:37:07 <Mkop2> bwolfe: I see you made a lot of changes to my patches. That makes me happy, because that means I can leave comments there for you to fix
18:37:20 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #496 (task reopened): minor UI glitch in Manage Obs <>
18:37:22 <Mkop2> s/comments/notes/
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18:38:43 <deepakverma> hi all :)
18:38:57 <deepakverma> I am working on my application for GSoC 09
18:39:05 <bwolfe> Mkop2: yeah, its pretty easy to do a compare and just power through all the diffs. if you aren't sure about some wording you can put a TODO or something and I'll add what I know
18:39:11 <bwolfe> here there deepakverma
18:39:41 <Mkop2> I was wary of putting a todo because I was scared it would get lost forever, as some of the current todos have
18:39:47 <k_nishant> hello deepak
18:39:49 <Mkop2> but I see my wariness was unfounded
18:40:02 <deepakverma> I want to create a survey module into openmrs
18:40:53 <deepakverma> which will enable its users to gather data in a more efficient way :)
18:41:07 <deepakverma> hello k_nishant :)
18:41:28 <bwolfe> deepakverma: survey tool? What do you mean by that?
18:41:42 <bwolfe> deepakverma: isn't every form that a doctor fills out about a patient technically just a survey?
18:41:52 <bwolfe> Mkop2: no worries
18:42:13 <bwolfe> Mkop2: in fact, I think there is a ticket to do somethign with those TODOs.
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18:43:02 <Mkop2> I found some pretty funny comments to that effect last night
18:43:17 <Mkop2> something like "does some fancy stuff. Email-bomb Darius to find out what"
18:43:40 <deepakverma> bwolfe: nope its somewhat like a doctor sitting online ;) and users filling in the questionnaires and the computer generating the assessments based on the responses filled by the users
18:44:32 <deepakverma> in short treating the patients online ;)
18:44:34 <Mkop2> deepakverma: you're assuming that patients have internet access....
18:44:50 <deepakverma> yeah!
18:45:01 <tamasiaina> I see a small problem of liabilities on that side too
18:45:26 <Mkop2> deepakverma: isn't openmrs kinda aimed at developing countries?
18:45:40 <Mkop2> these patients don't necessarily have access to a proper clean water supply, let alone internet
18:46:03 <tamasiaina> What places has openMRS been implemented at?
18:46:27 <Mkop2> ben?
18:46:37 <Mkop2> I think kenya, rwanda, anywhere else?
18:46:51 <tamasiaina> Anywhere in the South Pacific?
18:47:15 <Mkop2> I have no idea
18:47:24 <Mkop2> try look on the website
18:47:44 <tamasiaina> I use to live on some small islands in the South pacific
18:47:45 <Mkop2> I'd be interested to know, actually
18:48:13 <tamasiaina> And going to the hospitals around there was ... interesting ...
18:48:48 <deepakverma> ok so internet connection is a big issue
18:49:02 <deepakverma> I am looking into it how can I make this idea usable to the openMRS project
18:49:35 <tamasiaina> Well, you can't diagnos people via internet
18:49:49 <tamasiaina> Or automation
18:49:52 <tamasiaina> in my opinion
18:50:39 <k_nishant> tamasiaina: well a survey gives the success criterion of openMRS. how much its benfitted
18:51:17 <Mkop2> I think there can potentially be a place for web-based reporting in some countries, such as for monitoring between doctors appointments
18:51:19 <deepakverma> yeah we cannot diagnos but we can get useful information into our records and give the user a general idea about their problems
18:51:37 <Mkop2> but I can't see that being relevant to developing countries
18:51:41 <bwolfe> sorry, stepped out.
18:51:50 <tamasiaina> that makes more sense, I was thinking that you were trying to diagnose
18:52:14 <bwolfe> deepakverma: can you make a clinical case for this? its kind of a weird thing for an EMR to do. there are other programs that peopel can use to do surveys
18:52:37 <k_nishant> tamasiaina: well to deploy anything u require a survey tool, limesurvey provide it in a nice way
18:53:13 <tamasiaina> k_nishant: yeah, I understand that :) I was thinking in a different direction
18:53:32 <bwolfe> tamasiaina / Mkop2 : started in kenya/rwanda/south africa. went to uganda/tanzania/haiti/mozambique/lesotho soon after. now its in peru/india/US/pakistan/and some other african countries
18:54:03 <tamasiaina> sweet
18:54:11 <nribeka> Indonesia will join ... if i become the mr. prez :D
18:54:12 <deepakverma> bwolfe: cool
18:54:29 <bwolfe> deepakverma: there is a group called frontlinesms that does form type of questions like that via SMS. very cool.
18:54:33 <tamasiaina> Nribeka: want me to break some legs for you :P j/k
18:55:29 <tamasiaina> Is there a financial aspect to MRS?
18:55:48 <nribeka> tamasiaina, haha :D
18:55:50 <bwolfe> tamasiaina: not at the moment, that I know of
18:56:08 <deepakverma> hmm I see
18:56:15 <tamasiaina> bwofle: Do you think it would be useful to have a financial module in it?
18:56:21 <bwolfe> wait, do you mean a billing module or making money for me kind of thing? :_)
18:56:30 <tamasiaina> Budgeting
18:56:34 <bwolfe> ah
18:56:36 <tamasiaina> accounting
18:56:49 <tamasiaina> like where our resources are going
18:57:01 <tamasiaina> or what money is being spent on what.
18:57:02 <nribeka> material management module?
18:57:02 <bwolfe> I think it would be more useful to find another good open source tool that does all of that well...then send patient info and billing codes back and forth via hl7 (or something else)
18:57:25 <nribeka> ooo bwolfe, how about material managements?
18:57:46 <bwolfe> I know of nothing like that right now
18:57:52 <nribeka> like hospital supplies? is there open source initiative for something like that?
18:57:57 <nribeka> ic ci
18:57:58 <nribeka> ic
19:00:46 <tamasiaina> Could that be a module for openmrs?
19:02:06 <bwolfe> it probably could
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19:14:14 <ajitlodhi> hi..some body home..!!!
19:14:38 <tamasiaina> What making a material management module be something for GSOC?
19:15:04 <tamasiaina> *would making
19:16:08 <ajitlodhi> yup, obviously buddy..why u r thinking it will not?
19:17:12 <nribeka> hi ajitlodhi
19:17:15 <bwolfe> tamasiaina: again, its not on our list of priorities, so we probably won't take custom projects. the projects we have up there are our highest priorities and have mentors assigned with them.
19:17:31 <ajitlodhi> hi nribeka
19:17:42 <bwolfe> tamasiaina: you can certainly submit that as an idea along with a different app for a project that we listed
19:17:49 <nribeka> yes, and probably mentors doesn't have time to maintain the code after soc right bwolfe
19:17:58 <nribeka> :)
19:17:59 <ajitlodhi> need help regarding Longitudinal Data Review
19:18:06 <ajitlodhi> ny1
19:18:12 <ajitlodhi> plz.
19:18:15 <nribeka> that's bwolfe part i believe ajitlodhi
19:18:18 <nribeka> :D
19:18:34 <bwolfe> nribeka: thats part of it
19:19:08 <bwolfe> but our hope is that students are interested enough in openmrs to at least help support their work past SOC...and potentially even help code on other projects as well
19:20:54 <ajitlodhi> bwolfe:i believe that this project requires some more user friendly features.
19:21:19 <ajitlodhi> bewolfe:Longitudinal Data Review project
19:22:07 <ajitlodhi> sry bwolfe...
19:22:46 <bwolfe> ajitlodhi: what do you mean ?
19:22:52 <bwolfe> sorry for what?
19:24:00 <ajitlodhi> sry for writing ur name wrong ..:)
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19:25:15 <bwolfe> !tabcomplete
19:25:15 <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: "tabcomplete" --- Most IRC clients let you easily write someone's nickname in the channel using tab completion. Just type the first few letters, then <tab>, and voila!
19:25:20 <bwolfe> :-)
19:26:00 <nribeka> bwolfe, the CacheKey is not helping :P
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19:26:18 <bwolfe> nribeka: thats unfortunate
19:26:58 <tamasiaina> its been a while since I have been on IRC
19:27:10 <tamasiaina> what IRC client do you guys use?
19:27:38 <Mkop2> bwolfe: when will the gsoc project page be finalized?
19:27:51 <sdefabbiakane> I use ChatZilla. Works pretty well as long as you use Firefox.
19:27:53 <nribeka> the docs is horrible :(
19:27:57 <nribeka> pidgin
19:28:19 <bwolfe> tamasiaina: xchat in gnome (but NOT xchat-gnome, xchat-gnome sucks)
19:28:47 <bwolfe> Mkop2: only the note project and dave thomas's project are yet to be totally described
19:29:04 <tamasiaina> kk
19:29:19 <Mkop2> bwolfe: can I assume that the rest of the projects will remain as they are now?
19:29:19 <bwolfe> Mkop2: and there migth be a few more projects added before the deadline if other people come to us and say they want to mentor.
19:29:27 <bwolfe> Mkop2: yeah
19:29:35 <bwolfe> tamasiaina: what are you using ?
19:29:43 <ajitlodhi> bwolfe:actually i want to know to what level the AJAX will be used in this project.
19:30:02 <tamasiaina> mIRC for now
19:30:05 <tamasiaina> I'm on windows
19:30:12 <tamasiaina> But i am trying to look for a free one
19:31:44 <tamasiaina> My Linux machine just croaked on me
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19:32:25 <bwolfe> tamasiaina: there is a free build of the windows xchat. or something like that.
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19:32:47 <bwolfe> ajitlodhi: we have both dojo and jquery in openmrs. jquery is the way fo the future, but all dojo widgets have not been taken out.
19:33:09 <bwolfe> ajitlodhi: and we use dwr for the A, A, X part of AJAX
19:33:52 <ajitlodhi> bwolfe:k..thanks ....
19:36:03 <tamasiaina> Is there any frameworks that are used?
19:36:53 <flyankur> bwolfe: Does openmrs has any jquery project .. currently going on !!
19:38:50 <sdefabbiakane> tamasiaina: Spring is used for the Java end of things
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19:45:57 <bwolfe> flyankur: the WYSIWYG Form Designer for Html Form Entry Module one will be mostly javascript
19:46:16 <bwolfe> but will probably make use of the something like FCKeditor more than just jquery
19:49:01 <flyankur> @bwolfe : cool ..
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19:53:50 <bwolfe> nribeka: any progress on using a different .equals or .hashcode ?
20:05:02 <nribeka> tracing until the persister bwolfe
20:05:07 <nribeka> but no luck
20:05:21 <nribeka> haven't change the equals and hashcode
20:05:27 <nribeka> do you have any new hints for me?
20:05:28 <nribeka> :)
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20:10:14 <nribeka> or maybe we can just leave the class comparison bwolfe. so if the rootEntity and entity is different, then it should return that as different entity
20:10:53 <nribeka> but this would violate polymorphic query ... :(
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20:12:55 <bwolfe> nribeka: in the EntityKey.equals() method, when its failing to get a collection, what is the value of entityName and rootEntityName ?
20:13:08 <bwolfe> or can you still not get it to fail ?
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20:24:59 <bwolfe> nribeka: yep, I have an idea
20:25:08 <nribeka> cool bwolfe
20:25:12 <bwolfe> nribeka: is the test failing for you now ?
20:25:15 <nribeka> what's the idea?
20:25:21 <nribeka> the test is working
20:25:26 <bwolfe> thats no good
20:25:35 <nribeka> indeed
20:25:36 <bwolfe> make it fail
20:25:38 <nribeka> it's not good
20:25:44 <nribeka> i was hoping it will fail
20:25:45 <bwolfe> change back to the jar thats in trunk now
20:25:52 <nribeka> and test at Keelhaul also will fail
20:26:13 <nribeka> the one in trunk fail with the new test that you propose
20:26:18 <nribeka> i have two openmrs
20:26:39 <k_nishant> wat is the email id TBD
20:26:42 <bwolfe> right, thats what I want to fail. get the hib jar in trunk and my test that I put on the ticket
20:26:52 <bwolfe> k_nishant: ?
20:27:49 <k_nishant> email id of TBD
20:27:49 <bwolfe> nribeka: this is my idea: (once you have my test failing). Add a concept_numeric_id to the concept_numeric table. you'll have to change the mapping for concept numerics a bit and change the conceptNumeric object. leave concept_numeric.concept_id in there as a foreign key to concept.concept_id
20:28:19 <bwolfe> I think this is all happening because we have a concept.concept_id = concept_numeric.concept_id and both are the primary keys and have to be the same
20:30:39 <bwolfe> nribeka: in fact, if that mapping works, we might not need the modified hibernate jar for the EntityKey!!
20:34:56 <nribeka> lemme check bwolfe
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20:39:53 <nshekhar> lol
20:41:10 <nribeka> nshekhar, why lol alone?
20:43:37 <nshekhar> :)
20:44:45 <nshekhar> nribeka, are u one of mentors ??
20:46:26 <nribeka> nope nshekhar
20:46:27 <k_nishant> well before submiting the application I like to submit my proposal to their particular id's
20:46:32 <nribeka> i'm just bystander here
20:46:33 <nribeka> hahaha
20:46:34 <k_nishant> or on the mailing list
20:47:08 <nribeka> bwolfe, concept_numeric_id will become the new primary key for the ConceptNumeric?
20:47:10 <nshekhar> ha ha
20:47:12 <k_nishant> what is the link og TBD
20:47:13 <Keelhaul> k_nishant: what do you mean by "id"
20:47:22 <k_nishant> email
20:47:30 <nribeka> tbd = to be decided?
20:47:31 <Keelhaul> TBD = to be decided
20:47:33 <Keelhaul> yea
20:48:09 <k_nishant> Keelhaul: need to know that is saptarkshi is online
20:48:24 <k_nishant> Keelhaul: how to communicate with him
20:48:43 <k_nishant> Keelhaul: in short sunbiz
20:49:10 <Keelhaul> maybe bwolfe knows
20:49:31 <nribeka> check his wiki k_nishant
20:49:45 <k_nishant> nribeka: link man
20:49:48 <nribeka> sunbiz has wiki on openmrs and you can find his email there
20:50:18 <k_nishant> ok
20:50:33 <nribeka>
20:50:42 <bwolfe> nribeka: yes, concept_numeric.concept_numeric_id will be the primary key and concept_numeric.concept_id will link to concept
20:51:45 <nribeka> i don't think we can bwolfe. joined subclass will always share primary keys between super and sub class
20:52:06 <bwolfe> nribeka: there's a way you can map it so that the subclass has a different primary key
20:52:20 <nribeka> really? hmmm
20:52:41 <nribeka> i must have missed that bwolfe
20:52:50 <k_nishant> bwolfe: I send u a mail
20:52:53 <nribeka> is it in hibernate reference?
20:53:00 <bwolfe> nribeka: probably :-p
20:53:03 <nribeka> lol
20:53:07 <nribeka> lemme check again
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20:57:27 <Mkop2> !seen jmiranda
20:57:27 <OpenMRSBot> Mkop2: jmiranda was last seen in #openmrs 23 hours, 24 minutes, and 27 seconds ago: <jmiranda> (to the ticket)
20:57:39 <Mkop2> darn it
20:57:50 <bwolfe> I saw him earlier today
20:58:02 <bwolfe> thats weird
20:58:13 <Mkop2> you saw him online, or you saw him say something?
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20:59:44 <Mkop2> !help seen
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21:02:41 <bwolfe> Mkop2: I saw him online this morning. although the bot was cut off for a while. maybe that was in that time
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22:04:11 <andrewaclt> hello
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22:11:34 <Mkop2> andrewaclt: hi
22:15:51 <Mkop2> bwolfe: what is/was hackathon?
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22:17:52 <andrewaclt> Mkop2: I don't know the context but a hackathon is when a bunch of people sit down collaboratively and write code.
22:18:23 <andrewaclt>
22:18:43 <Mkop2> the context is
22:18:45 <OpenMRSBot> <> (at
22:19:00 <Mkop2> I guess they had an openmrs hackathon in november 07
22:19:05 <andrewaclt> oh, no clue then.
22:19:14 <Mkop2> ben: how long have you been involved in openmrs
22:19:15 <Mkop2> ?
22:19:21 <Mkop2> andrewaclt: you're probably right
22:19:21 <Keelhaul>
22:19:30 <OpenMRSBot> <> (at
22:19:33 <Keelhaul> i'm not sure i'd be comfortable coding in a lan party atmosphere
22:20:36 <andrewaclt> Not always in a lan, the ones I've been to have just been a bunch of people coding on their laptops in the same room...on couches, in apartments, etc
22:20:48 <Keelhaul> heh
22:20:55 <Keelhaul> on couches D=
22:20:56 <Mkop2> Keelhaul: that picture is like a casino. No windows, lights dim, so you lose track of time and spend hours upon hours coding for some opensource project
22:21:01 <Keelhaul> i cant even irc w/o a proper desk
22:21:02 <Keelhaul> let alone code
22:21:20 <Mkop2> Last night when my roommate went to sleep i was coding on the couch
22:21:21 <Mkop2> laying down
22:21:30 <Keelhaul> how do you use the mouse
22:21:47 <Mkop2> same way i normally do
22:21:50 <Mkop2> touchpad mouse
22:21:55 <Mkop2> or whatever it's called
22:21:56 <Keelhaul> ew
22:21:59 <Keelhaul> the touchpad is horrible
22:22:13 <Keelhaul> i can barely copy a file using that
22:22:21 <Keelhaul> so i always have my bluetooth mouse with my laptop
22:23:01 <andrewaclt> weird.
22:23:14 <Mkop2> oh, those Germans
22:23:25 <Mkop2> :-)
22:23:28 <Keelhaul> touchpads are almost as horrible as trackballs
22:23:36 <andrewaclt> What?!1
22:23:40 <Mkop2> touchpads are awesome
22:23:56 <Mkop2> if you spend 5 minutes figuring it out
22:24:03 <Keelhaul> dragging a file with a button pressed requires some finger acrobatics
22:24:12 <Mkop2> or just using 2 finger
22:24:15 <Mkop2> fingers*
22:24:16 <andrewaclt> thumb + pointer finger
22:24:22 <Keelhaul> yea
22:24:26 <Keelhaul> and thats unconfortable
22:24:28 <andrewaclt> or a lot of trackpads are clickable
22:24:29 <Mkop2> I always use my middle finger on the touchpad
22:24:33 <andrewaclt> so you just have to press harder
22:24:48 <Mkop2> I can also tap on the touchpad, but that doesn't work to drag
22:25:04 <Keelhaul> andrewaclt: you cant do that because you usually have to make several slides to get the cursor where you want
22:25:08 <Keelhaul> and have to release it in between
22:25:12 <Mkop2> yeah, that too
22:25:22 <Mkop2> but it doesn't take acrobatics
22:25:33 <Keelhaul> it's still uncomfortable compared to a mouse
22:25:37 <Mkop2> index finger hovers over buttons, middle finger uses touchpad
22:25:48 <Mkop2> keeps your fingers closer to the keyboard
22:25:57 <Mkop2> that's part of what I like about it
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22:26:21 <Keelhaul> most laptops also dont have a numpad
22:26:29 <Keelhaul> and those that do can hardly be called laptops anymore
22:26:33 <Mkop2> true
22:26:48 <Mkop2> on my laptop I have to hold down Fn to use the numpad
22:26:55 <Keelhaul> when i had to use my laptop at home because my mobo died
22:27:00 <Mkop2> and the keys are positioned kinda wrong
22:27:04 <Keelhaul> i hooked it up to the big monitor and kb + mouse
22:27:10 <Keelhaul> worked just like a desktop pc
22:27:15 <Keelhaul> minus the noise =)
22:27:25 <Mkop2> there have been a few times I've wished I had a numpad, but not many
22:27:45 <Mkop2> if I'm coding for 40 hours a week in the summer, I might hook up to an external monitor
22:27:56 <Keelhaul> yea
22:28:00 <Mkop2> be back in a few
22:28:11 <Keelhaul> the 1280x768 my laptop has arent really good enough for eclipse
22:29:19 <Mkop2> do you mean 1024x768?
22:29:23 <Keelhaul> no
22:29:24 <Keelhaul> 1280
22:29:29 <Mkop2> oh, widescreen
22:29:30 <Keelhaul> 16:10
22:29:42 <Mkop2> yeah, mine is 1024x768
22:29:55 <Mkop2> I don't know if that's a limitation on my monitor or on my graphics card
22:30:32 <Keelhaul> that's the res of your laptop screen i guess
22:30:51 <Keelhaul> if you hook it up to a monitor, it hsould support whatever it can display
22:31:03 <Keelhaul> unless it's a 30", then you need dual link dvi i think
22:31:38 <Keelhaul> dinner bbl
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22:54:11 <nribeka> dinner time sponsored by subway
22:59:57 <Mkop2> my dinner time was sponsored by ramen noodles
23:00:00 <Mkop2> and leftover chinese
23:00:11 <Mkop2> it sounds so cliche
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23:41:24 <Mkop2> wow
23:41:33 <Mkop2> that puts an interesting spin on dinner
23:42:05 <Mkop2> ramen noodles, leftover chinese, martini, carved beef, and hors d'oeuvres
23:43:06 <andrewaclt> yuck :)
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23:43:51 <Mkop2> yuck about which part?
23:45:02 <andrewaclt> the mixture
23:45:11 <Mkop2> they weren't together, don't worry
23:45:17 <andrewaclt>
23:45:29 <andrewaclt> That means I'm not supplying a valid user/pass for the db?
23:45:43 <Mkop2> I thought i was done with dinner after the ramen and chinese, but then I went somewhere where they had the latter 3 items
23:45:52 <andrewaclt> oh interesting
23:45:59 <andrewaclt> I had hotdogs and prezels :)
23:46:11 <andrewaclt> *pretzels
23:46:43 <Mkop2> do you have a runtime properties file?
23:46:50 <Mkop2> is this the first time running openmrs?
23:46:57 <andrewaclt> yes, yes
23:47:30 <Mkop2> how did you run it? from ant?
23:47:43 <andrewaclt> yes
23:48:00 <andrewaclt> well, wait, I ran the install from ant
23:48:40 <Mkop2> try run the entire thing from ant
23:49:05 <andrewaclt> install + start from ant?
23:49:34 <andrewaclt> (I'm doing all this within eclipse)
23:50:02 <Mkop2> I think just install
23:50:24 <Mkop2> go to the tomcat manager
23:50:27 <Mkop2> see if openmrs is running
23:50:50 <andrewaclt> It gave that error when trying to start
23:51:14 <andrewaclt> at the end of the ant install
23:51:20 <Mkop2> oh
23:51:51 <andrewaclt> This is 1.4 too
23:52:40 <Mkop2> check that the file /Users/andrew/.OpenMRS/ is really what you think it is
23:53:30 <andrewaclt>
23:54:39 <Mkop2> is that the correct mysql password?
23:54:45 <Mkop2> is mysql running?
23:54:55 <andrewaclt> it is in the final I changed it so the world wouldn't have it
23:55:33 <andrewaclt> s/final/real file
23:55:57 <andrewaclt> got that backwards but yeah you get the idea
23:56:25 <andrewaclt> yeah mysql is running
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23:57:07 <Mkop2> and tomcat manager doesn't show anything about openmrs?
23:57:41 <andrewaclt> correct
23:57:51 <andrewaclt> well, it's there just not started
23:58:11 <Mkop2> ok
23:59:07 <Mkop2> I have no idea
23:59:12 <Mkop2> bwolfe: are you around?
23:59:20 <andrewaclt> I figured it just hates me.
23:59:30 <Mkop2> this is where I throw up my hands and say "I'm a newbie, ask someone who knows something"
23:59:36 <Mkop2> that may also be the case.
23:59:42 <Mkop2> s/it/they/
23:59:48 <Mkop2> :-)
23:59:49 <nribeka> check the logs?
23:59:57 <andrewaclt> which logs?
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