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01:01:57 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7161]: serialization branch: serialization branch: Following code review, … <>
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01:06:16 <Keelhaul> bwolfe: remember how you (or someone else) used to write in the mailing list "xy gets 10 points for clearing ticket n"
01:06:21 <Keelhaul> was that real of fictional
01:07:46 <r0bby> bwolfe: any ways I can get an openmrs t-shirt?
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01:23:29 <Mkop2> whoa
01:23:42 <Mkop2> I just upgraded pidgin, and everything looks... different!
01:24:20 <Keelhaul> lol
01:24:23 <Keelhaul> when did you last upgrade
01:24:33 <Keelhaul> mine looks the same as always
01:24:35 <Keelhaul> 2.55 i think
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01:25:22 <Keelhaul> Mkop2: you're the warnings expert, right
01:25:35 <Keelhaul> how do i suppress unused variable warnings
01:27:56 <Mkop2> Keelhaul: go to the line with the warning, hit Ctrl-1
01:28:35 <Mkop2> I was at 2.1 before, I think
01:35:40 <Mkop2> Keelhaul: did that work?
01:35:52 <Keelhaul> Mkop2: havent tried yet, hold on
01:35:58 <Mkop2> ok, no rush
01:36:29 <Keelhaul> ah, suppresswarnings("unused")
01:36:31 <Keelhaul> thx
01:36:41 <Keelhaul> although i was having that problem with unused loggers in particular
01:36:47 <Keelhaul> but then i saw i can make them final
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02:39:02 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: those were on tickets and for a competition we had at the 2008 openmrs conference in south africa
02:39:10 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: the winners got prize money
02:39:11 <Keelhaul> oh
02:40:19 <bwolfe> r0bby: send me $25 and I'll send you my shirt. ;-) otherwise I don't know who has some. chris seebregts maybe?
02:41:45 <r0bby> burke/paul?
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02:53:03 <Keelhaul> bwolfe: my new version of the inpatientcare module that uses the Location hierarchy has almost all the functions of the old version now =)
02:53:28 <bwolfe> cool. is it leaner and meaner now?
02:53:33 <Keelhaul> although now it takes more steps and computing to achieve the same =/
02:53:37 <Keelhaul> because of recursive tests etc
02:54:14 <Keelhaul> well it is leaner in a way that i could get rid of 4 controllers
02:54:40 <Keelhaul> too bad that programming class in africa will break it soon =P
02:55:00 <bwolfe> hehe
02:55:16 <bwolfe> I'm sure thats at least a few months out from getting into trunk
02:56:15 <isurundt> hi ben
02:56:33 <bwolfe> hey isuru
02:57:26 <isurundt> bwolfe:just to clarify something. Can we get reviewed our Gsoc proposal by the mentor prior to submitting?
02:58:01 <bwolfe> isurundt: either prior to or post submission
02:58:31 <bwolfe> you can email it to ben at openmrs org
02:58:43 <bwolfe> (or email the mentor you're applying to)
02:59:17 <isurundt> bwolfe: you are the mentor.. :)
02:59:28 <bwolfe> then send it to me twice
03:04:42 <isurundt> bwolfe:ok. thanks
03:07:56 <r0bby> ugh
03:07:57 <r0bby> im stuck on stolen wifi
03:12:50 <nribeka> ugh ... i missed sgrannis message
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03:15:29 <bwolfe> Mkop is taking over...
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03:15:54 <Mkop2> I still have no way of getting rid of Mkop21
03:16:09 <Mkop2> I can't ghost it, I guess I'll just wait until it times out
03:16:23 <nribeka> lots of Mkop2
03:16:43 <nribeka> bwolfe, did sgrannis talk about anything early on?
03:16:55 <Mkop2> the old version of pidgin I think bumped up to Mkop3 when mkop2 was taken, I don't know why they changed it
03:17:47 *** Mkop21 was kicked by bwolfe (bwolfe)
03:17:53 <bwolfe> hows that ? :-)
03:18:16 <Keelhaul> power trip!
03:18:18 <bwolfe> nribeka: I don't see anything by him
03:18:41 <bwolfe> thats the second time I've ever kicked someone...I'm entitled to use it every now and then
03:18:48 <bwolfe> r0bby, remember the first time I kicked someone? ;-)
03:19:08 <Keelhaul> lol
03:19:24 <upul> r0bby used bad words?
03:19:56 <Keelhaul> oh yea Mkop2
03:19:58 <nribeka> hahahaha
03:20:09 <Keelhaul> i got banned from the official pidgin channel once
03:20:11 <nribeka> it was r0bby vs sunbiz i think
03:20:13 <nribeka> :D
03:20:22 <Mkop2> lol
03:20:36 <nribeka> ok bwolfe. thanks. i just sent an email to him
03:21:20 <Mkop2> Keelhaul: for what?
03:21:40 <Keelhaul> Mkop2: i had problems (back when it was called Gaim) and came asking for help
03:22:12 <Keelhaul> one of the devs found out i'm on windows and berated me about coming to #gaim instead of #wingaim
03:22:18 <Keelhaul> well i told him to shut up
03:22:22 <Keelhaul> and out the door i went
03:22:26 <Mkop2> lol
03:22:46 <Mkop2> did the room topic direct you to wingaim?
03:23:05 <Keelhaul> not that i remember
03:23:11 <Keelhaul> that was 2005 or so
03:23:59 <r0bby> cuuuuuuuuuute
03:24:48 <r0bby> bwolf: you mean the first fucking time you fucking kicked someone?
03:25:09 * r0bby uses upul as a human shield
03:25:24 <Mkop2> come on bwolfe, kick them both!
03:25:25 *** r0bby was kicked by bwolfe (third times a charm)
03:25:34 <isurundt> :)
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03:25:39 * bwolfe has long legs and can kick around upul
03:26:00 <r0bby> that was so much f'en fun!
03:26:19 <Mkop2> he said f'en - I think you subdued him, ben
03:26:25 <Keelhaul> how tall are you guys
03:26:46 <Mkop2> this is the second time we're going through this in my few days here
03:27:12 <r0bby> Mkop2: nah
03:27:15 <upul> i'm 6' 5inches when i'm on top of a table
03:27:32 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: why ?
03:27:35 <Mkop2> and when you're underneath the table?
03:27:37 <r0bby> Just too fucking lazy! bwolfe: i like giving you exercise with the kicking button
03:27:42 <Keelhaul> bwolfe: just wondering
03:27:48 <bwolfe> Mkop2: 2nd time going through height or through language ?
03:27:53 <Mkop2> height
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03:28:01 *** r0bby was kicked by bwolfe (there will not be a fifth)
03:28:17 <Mkop2> ouch!
03:28:26 <bmckown> whoa!!!
03:28:32 <bwolfe> the funny thing is that I don't know how to unban someone
03:28:38 <Mkop2> lol!
03:28:39 <Keelhaul> =o
03:28:42 <Keelhaul> what client are you using
03:28:48 <bwolfe> xchat
03:28:55 <Keelhaul> try double clicking the window
03:28:57 <bwolfe> but I just use the command line /kickban ___
03:29:26 <bwolfe> ah yes, right click, window, ban list
03:29:33 <bwolfe> how long should I let him sweat ?
03:29:39 <Keelhaul> dunno
03:29:43 <Keelhaul> waht did he do
03:29:47 <Keelhaul> swear?
03:29:52 <Mkop2> used the F word too many times
03:30:03 <Keelhaul> heh
03:30:22 <bwolfe> I'll bet theres a plugin for the bot to control it :-)
03:30:29 *** bwolfe sets mode: -b *!n=wakawaka@*guifications/user/r0bby
03:30:34 <Mkop2> bwolfe: I'm sure there is
03:31:06 <nribeka> hahaha
03:31:07 <nribeka> :D
03:31:15 <nribeka> where's r0bby
03:31:16 <nribeka> :D
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03:31:27 <Keelhaul> wb =)
03:31:28 <r0bby> Okay that's good :)
03:31:38 <r0bby> I hope this doesn't hurt my chances :)
03:32:05 <bwolfe> I think /kickban gets propagated up to google's soc app r0bby ;-)
03:32:09 <Keelhaul> r0bby: the irc log will be on the desk right next to your application
03:32:10 <nribeka> when is the last day for the proposal r0bby
03:32:17 <nribeka> lol
03:32:23 <nribeka> you're dead meat rob
03:32:25 <nribeka> :D
03:32:40 <Keelhaul> keep in mind that everything you say in here will be forever available on the website
03:32:40 <r0bby> bwolfe: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
03:32:43 <Keelhaul> which is kinda creepy
03:32:48 * r0bby wants this bad
03:33:31 <Mkop2> could we at least make the chat logs ungoogleable?
03:33:42 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: there are ways to remove things. so if you say, put your email in, phone number, admit that you like to wear swedish stockings, etc, I can take it out. just let me know
03:33:57 <Keelhaul> D=
03:34:28 <nribeka> lol
03:34:35 <bwolfe> Mkop2: them being googlable is 75% of the reason they're logged. some debugging goes on in here...granted not much of it during gsoc time...
03:34:36 <Mkop2> next: /kickban OpenMRSBot
03:34:55 <bwolfe> (the other 25% is so I can keep tabs on r0bby while I'm sleeping...) :-D
03:35:00 <Mkop2> lolo
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03:35:12 <bwolfe> Mkop2: he just comes back :-)
03:35:27 <Mkop2> jmiranda: next: /kickban bwolfe
03:35:58 <Keelhaul> i googled my name the other day
03:36:14 <Keelhaul> lost of the hits were from the openmrs site
03:36:17 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7162]: idcards module: Added service methods for supporting reprint of idcards … <>
03:36:18 <Mkop2> bwolfe: do you google the names of gsoc applicants?
03:36:29 <Keelhaul> yes, and checks their facebook!
03:36:32 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: did you search andrey or Keelhaul ?
03:36:39 <Keelhaul> bwolfe: my full name
03:36:42 <Keelhaul> not keelhaul
03:36:53 <bwolfe> Mkop2: I haven't in the past...but thats a good idea! :-D
03:37:10 <Keelhaul> and the first hit you get from is some creepy site that collects everything that has your name tagged to it
03:37:24 <Keelhaul> "look at what the internet knows about you. let us help you improve your image"
03:37:46 <Mkop2> lol
03:37:50 <bwolfe> I was just talking with sam about this today. there is some jazz musician named Ben Wolfe, so I couldn't make it above #30 for the longest time on google. Today my blog is #6. :-D
03:38:02 <Mkop2> I am not ashamed of my google hits
03:38:20 * Mkop2 quickly checks his google hits to make sure he's not ashamed of them
03:38:52 <Keelhaul> lol
03:39:02 <bwolfe> nice, way to be a 1/2 step ahead Mkop2 !
03:39:04 <nribeka> i have lots of hits from my blog
03:39:05 <Keelhaul> luckily all but one hits about me were university related
03:39:11 <nribeka> i got two names lol
03:39:42 <Mkop2> most of my hits are listservs and blog comments
03:40:01 <upul> mine are from interpol, fbi
03:41:27 <bwolfe> upul: nice. shows your _international_ abilities :-p
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03:57:28 <jmiranda> Mkop2, i was thinking about it
03:57:48 <jmiranda> (re: kickbanning ben)
03:57:49 <Mkop2> you gotta think quicker....
03:57:58 <jmiranda> he's much bigger than me
03:58:12 <Mkop2> he's also far away from you
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04:13:22 <r0bby>
04:13:23 <r0bby> NICE!
04:13:25 <OpenMRSBot> <> (at
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04:25:35 <Mkop2> r0bby:Sorry, the page you are trying to view is not here.
04:25:42 <r0bby> it is
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04:40:38 <Mkop2> r0bby: not for me it's not
04:46:04 <Mkop2> I assume that was a link to your own kudo rank, r0bby?
04:48:05 <upul> Mkop2: i worked earlier, now it's expired
04:48:09 <upul> it worked
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05:08:29 <Mkop2> now we're being taken over by nribekas
05:08:42 <Mkop2> jmiranda: come on, exercise those @ muscles...
05:09:52 <jmiranda> Mkop2, whachoo talking about
05:10:02 <Mkop2> your op rights
05:10:14 <Mkop2> you should /kick the extra nribeka s
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05:25:39 <sunbiz> !seen sunbiz
05:25:39 <OpenMRSBot> sunbiz: sunbiz was last seen in #openmrs 10 weeks, 1 day, 11 hours, and 37 seconds ago: <sunbiz> hey
05:27:09 <r0bby> sunbiz i see you're mentoring :)
05:27:59 <sunbiz> yes
05:28:04 <sunbiz> howz everyone doing??
05:29:00 <Keelhaul> hi
05:29:03 <Keelhaul> about to go to bed
05:29:13 <Keelhaul> it's below freezing point outside >=/
05:29:16 <Keelhaul> i thought it's late march
05:29:22 <Keelhaul> gn
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05:33:41 <Mkop2> sunbiz == burke, right?
05:33:58 <sunbiz> nope
05:34:06 <sunbiz> sunbiz = Saptarshi
05:34:21 <nribeka2> burke = ekrub
05:34:22 <nribeka2> :D
05:34:28 <Mkop2> oh
05:35:33 <Mkop2> your project is one of the few that doesn't catch my interest, for some reason
05:39:47 <sunbiz> :)
05:40:06 <sunbiz> Mkop2: but it is really useful and something quite basic for the implementations
05:40:19 <Mkop2> true, true
05:40:31 <Mkop2> I can't figure out why that project doesn't catch my interest
05:40:48 <Mkop2> it doesn't involve things like JSP which are outside my skillset
05:41:04 <Mkop2> it isn't extraneous or random
05:41:36 <Mkop2> I don't know what it is
05:42:02 <Mkop2> but if reading through the project description a few times doesn't get me excited, then it's probably not the project for me
05:43:58 <nribeka2> which project Mkop2?
05:45:00 <sdefabbiakane> nribeka2: the role-based home page, I think
05:45:30 <Mkop2> yep
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05:48:30 <nribeka> argh pidgin crash
05:48:40 <nribeka> !gsoc
05:48:40 <OpenMRSBot> nribeka: Error: "gsoc" is not a valid command.
05:48:44 <nribeka> !soc
05:48:44 <OpenMRSBot> nribeka: "soc" --- (#1), or (#2), or (#3)
05:51:37 <Mkop2> !learn gsoc as
05:51:37 <OpenMRSBot> Mkop2: The operation succeeded.
05:51:46 <Mkop2> !learn gsoc as
05:51:46 <OpenMRSBot> Mkop2: The operation succeeded.
05:51:55 <Mkop2> !learn gsoc as
05:51:55 <OpenMRSBot> Mkop2: The operation succeeded.
05:51:57 <Mkop2> !gsoc
05:51:57 <OpenMRSBot> Mkop2: "gsoc" --- (#1), or (#2), or (#3)
05:52:08 <Mkop2> that mistake has been made too many times by now
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06:33:17 <nribeka> hi hwadhwani77
06:35:34 <hwadhwani77> hi
06:41:27 <nribeka> are you here for gsoc hwadhwani77?
06:43:57 <hwadhwani77> yes
06:44:15 <hwadhwani77> i'm looking at openmrs ideas..!!
06:44:43 <hwadhwani77> are you here for gsoc nribeka ..?
06:45:45 <nribeka> ah cool
06:45:46 <sunbiz> hwadhwani77: you can find those projects:
06:45:51 <nribeka> !soc
06:45:51 <OpenMRSBot> nribeka: "soc" --- (#1), or (#2), or (#3)
06:46:00 <nribeka> !bwolfesays
06:46:00 <OpenMRSBot> nribeka: "bwolfesays" --- FYI to all potential GSoC Applicants: OpenMRS welcomes multiple applications for multiple projects within openmrs. Actually, we encourage it! Sometimes we get quality students only applying to a low priority project. So pick a few projects that interest you, apply to all of them, and put comments in them saying which other ones you've applied to
06:46:12 <nribeka> those are the two pointers i think :D
06:46:17 <nribeka> hi sunbiz
06:46:24 <nribeka> haven't seen you for a while
06:46:34 <sunbiz> yes nribeka...
06:46:41 <sunbiz> been quite a while in the IRC
06:47:14 <sunbiz> Im here to grab some students to my project !! :)
06:47:21 <hwadhwani77> hi sunbiz
06:47:29 <sunbiz> hi hwadhwani77
06:48:18 <nribeka> ah cool. i see you become mentor this time :D
06:48:40 <r0bby> sunbiz: i'd apply but i don't think it piques my interesting
06:48:41 <nribeka> where are you at hwadhwani77?
06:48:43 <hwadhwani77> i was looking at some project ideas in openmrs.. can you guide some of them.. which are under you>> sunbiz
06:48:56 <r0bby> I found my area of openmrs :)
06:49:09 <hwadhwani77> i am in California, US
06:49:10 <r0bby> Role based home page
06:49:13 <nribeka> r0bby, i thought bwolfe banned you already :D
06:49:15 <nribeka> lol
06:49:21 <r0bby> nribeka: unbanned lol :-)
06:49:30 <r0bby> I doubt they'd axe my soc application
06:49:36 <r0bby> I have a lot to bring :)
06:49:57 <r0bby> the fact I haven't given up and still wanna finish my project means heaps
06:50:11 <r0bby> I wish i'd used Spring controllers to begin w/ :(
06:50:32 <sdefabbiakane> sunbiz: are you going to be around tomorrow? I'd like to talk to you about your project but I really should be getting to sleep n ow
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06:50:45 <r0bby> p
06:50:46 <r0bby> too
06:50:53 <sunbiz> sdefabbiakane: yes... probably
06:51:34 <sdefabbiakane> sunbiz: great. 9am classes are the bane of my existence :(
06:52:08 <sunbiz> hehe ;)
06:53:11 <sdefabbiakane> night all
06:53:24 <nribeka> night sdefabbiakane
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07:28:59 <asadislam> hi all
07:29:49 <sunbiz> hi asadislam
07:30:14 <asadislam> hi i viewing ur regmodule
07:30:27 <asadislam> i need some help/guidence
07:30:39 <sunbiz> yes
07:31:29 <asadislam> a savePatient() is used in mainFormController where it is defined ?
07:35:12 <asadislam> .. hi
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07:44:24 <nribeka> sunbiz could you give aik some guidance :D
07:44:28 <nribeka> i'm about to sleep now
07:44:29 <nribeka> lol
07:44:30 <nribeka> :D
07:44:33 <nribeka> sorry aik
07:44:45 <nribeka> or you can just post the question the dev list
07:44:55 <nribeka> or you can write pm to me
07:45:04 <nribeka> and i can post it on your behalf
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07:48:47 <nribeka> there's upul too who can help aik :D
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07:53:15 <bunty> hi
07:53:24 <nribeka> hi bunty
07:53:32 <nribeka> argghhh i'm the only one here now
07:53:33 <nribeka> :(
07:53:41 <bunty> :)
07:53:42 <nribeka> bwolfe, please read the log tomorrow
07:54:04 <bunty> ok.
07:54:12 <nribeka> are you here for gsoc bunty?
07:54:19 <bunty> yes
07:54:30 <nribeka> wellcome to openmrs hut :D
07:54:43 <nribeka> these are the pointers for openmrs gsoc 2009
07:54:46 <nribeka> !gsoc
07:54:46 <OpenMRSBot> nribeka: "gsoc" --- (#1), or (#2), or (#3)
07:54:49 <bunty> thank you
07:54:56 <nribeka> !bwolfesays
07:54:56 <OpenMRSBot> nribeka: "bwolfesays" --- FYI to all potential GSoC Applicants: OpenMRS welcomes multiple applications for multiple projects within openmrs. Actually, we encourage it! Sometimes we get quality students only applying to a low priority project. So pick a few projects that interest you, apply to all of them, and put comments in them saying which other ones you've applied to
07:55:06 <bunty> I have gone though those
07:55:23 <bunty> I am interested in "Integrate Quartz Scheduler into OpenMRS"
07:55:28 <bunty> project idea
07:55:56 <bunty> I just want to know whether the idea is vacant or not?
07:56:38 <bunty> I mean
07:57:04 <bunty> any other interested students for that project?
07:57:19 <bunty> so I can apply for another one
07:57:38 <nribeka> it's better for you to apply for more projects bunty
07:57:46 <nribeka> there are some talk about it i think
07:57:56 <nribeka> you need to consult with the mentors
07:58:17 <nribeka> you need to wait for another 4 hours if you want to see some mentor in irc
07:58:18 <nribeka> :)
07:58:18 <bunty> oh, more projects of OpenMRS?
07:58:30 <bunty> :)
07:58:44 <nribeka> yes
07:58:46 <nribeka> :D
07:58:52 <nribeka> !bwolfesays
07:58:52 <OpenMRSBot> nribeka: "bwolfesays" --- FYI to all potential GSoC Applicants: OpenMRS welcomes multiple applications for multiple projects within openmrs. Actually, we encourage it! Sometimes we get quality students only applying to a low priority project. So pick a few projects that interest you, apply to all of them, and put comments in them saying which other ones you've applied to
07:58:58 <bunty> :D
07:59:48 <bunty> so the organization will decide the correct project for the selected student?
07:59:58 <bunty> that's cool
07:59:59 <nribeka> yeps
08:00:11 <nribeka> i think so bunty
08:00:29 <bunty> how can we know the priorities of projects?
08:02:19 <nribeka> hmmm
08:02:24 <nribeka> i'm not sure bunty
08:02:31 <nribeka> but i think all projects are important
08:02:32 <nribeka> :)
08:02:39 <bunty> :)
08:02:42 <nribeka> join the mailing list for details bunty
08:02:49 <nribeka> dev and implementers list
08:02:56 <nribeka> need to get some sleep bunty
08:03:05 <bunty> ok
08:03:07 <nribeka> wait here for some mentors to show up
08:03:07 <nribeka> :D
08:03:11 <bunty> thanks for the info
08:03:20 <nribeka> ok ok :D
08:03:31 <nribeka> openmrs is a really fun place :)
08:03:34 <bunty> ok I l come back after few hours
08:03:37 <nribeka> ok ok
08:03:38 <nribeka> cool
08:03:39 <nribeka> :D
08:03:47 <nribeka> i'll c u later then
08:03:47 <nribeka> :D
08:03:51 <bunty> :D
08:04:14 <bunty> ok. c ya later and nice talking to you
08:04:17 <bunty> :D
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08:14:32 <upul> bunty: projects marked with gsoc icon are specially selected so that they can be finished in that duration i guess
08:17:04 <bunty> thank you
08:17:15 <bunty> Are u SriLankan
08:17:18 <bunty> ??
08:17:28 <upul> yes
08:17:37 <bunty> :D
08:17:39 <bunty> mee too
08:18:13 <nribeka1> aik also from Srilanka
08:18:22 <nribeka1> you might be able to help him out :)
08:18:34 <upul> I just talked to him
08:18:42 <bunty> help him :D
08:18:50 <upul> in pm
08:20:34 <bunty> upul : "Integrate Quartz Scheduler into OpenMRS" project seems interesting? right? but I haven't used Quartz b4.
08:20:48 <bunty> But I have heard of it
08:20:53 <upul> you can learn
08:21:00 <bunty> yes
08:21:04 <upul> there's a good tutorial in the site
08:21:38 <bunty> I l follow that.
08:22:01 <bunty> I tried to subscribe for the developer's mailing list.
08:22:11 <bunty> It takes time. is it?
08:22:36 <bunty> I have sent the confirmation request also
08:22:37 <upul> moderators are sleeping at the moment
08:22:56 <upul> no, anyway you are subscribed
08:23:10 <upul> there may not have been any mails yet
08:23:28 <bunty> hmm. may be
08:23:47 <upul> no mails in the last several hours
08:24:14 <bunty> hmm
08:24:30 <bunty> actually I sent a mail to Justin yesterday
08:24:36 <bunty> didn't get a reply :(
08:24:52 <upul> he's busy, just after the vacation, he'll reply
08:24:59 <bunty> ok
08:25:30 <bunty> so, is it ok to mail him directly. or I wlll use the mailing list
08:26:14 <upul> you can talk to him directly in about 5 hours
08:26:31 <bunty> ok
08:26:38 <upul> he is jmiranda logged in here
08:27:19 <bunty> I see him, thank you. I l come back in few hours then
08:28:55 <bunty> bye
08:29:06 <upul> see you
08:29:16 <bunty> c ya
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10:32:10 <upul> hi k_nishant
10:32:18 <upul> hi nimanthab
10:32:56 <k_nishant> hi uppul
10:33:12 <k_nishant> so submitted application
10:33:34 <k_nishant> upul: have you submitted you are application
10:34:18 <upul> k_nishant: only one yet, lots more to put yet
10:34:49 <k_nishant> ok
10:35:07 <k_nishant> upul: last time also you participated
10:35:13 <upul> yes
10:35:43 <k_nishant> kk
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10:36:59 <nshekhar> any1 home
10:37:06 <upul> some are
10:38:00 <nshekhar> i want to work on WUSIWUG html form editor
10:38:22 <nshekhar> have some doubts bout it
10:39:11 <nshekhar> looks like everyone sleeping now...
10:39:25 <nshekhar> catch u guys latr
10:39:29 <upul> developers will come online in around 3 hours
10:41:07 <upul> nshekhar: or you can contact Darius Jazayeri
10:41:19 <nshekhar> humm... okie
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11:20:32 <upul> hi huda_s86
11:20:41 <upul> hi dishan
11:27:41 <huda_s86> hi upul
11:28:50 <upul> huda_s86: how's going?
11:30:34 <huda_s86> not very good, because of time
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11:43:03 <huda_s86> upul: do you think I still have chance?I mean considering time
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12:28:26 <bwolfe> any soc students have any questions ?
12:28:51 <bwolfe> any non-soc students have any questions? :-p
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13:25:22 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #1345 (defect closed): Patient Viewing Attributes - Concept ID instead of concept name <> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7163]: 1.4.x - Fixed person attribute "view" display to show the displayString … <>
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13:29:16 <vindyani> hi jmiranda
13:29:46 <vindyani> i send u a mail attached with two screenshots for ticket 1052
13:32:11 <jmiranda> vindyani, thanks
13:32:27 <jmiranda> i'll take a look this morning
13:32:44 <vindyani> ok thanks,
13:33:44 <vindyani> i would like to know, if there is an introticket which will helpful for doing Integrate Quartz Scheduler into OpenMRS project
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13:41:49 <jmiranda> vindyani, at the moment there is not
13:42:25 <vindyani> ok, i tried some coding with quartz today
13:43:12 <vindyani> i thought of doing something related to that
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14:00:47 <nribeka> i think i saw sgrannis in here early on
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14:04:23 <nribeka> hi patri
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14:05:11 <bwolfe> nribeka: shaun was here for only 30 mins...
14:05:16 <bwolfe> you have to be quick to catch him!
14:05:45 <nribeka> yeah, he call in a few mins ago
14:05:54 <nribeka> i losing my voice
14:06:02 <nribeka> something is wrong with my throat
14:06:03 <nribeka> :(
14:07:42 <patri> hi nribeka
14:08:43 <nribeka> we're celebrating this today bwolfe :D
14:09:17 <nribeka> patri, i haven't seen you here :D
14:10:48 <bwolfe> nribeka: so you celebrating on bali time ? its not the 26th here in the US yet... :-)
14:11:07 <bwolfe> ...and shouldn't IRC count against the "silence"??
14:11:15 <patri> i know... i m new here...
14:11:57 <patri> r u a mentor ?
14:12:16 <nribeka> tomorrow morning bali time :D
14:12:25 <nribeka> i'll be gone for one day lol
14:12:30 <patri> nyepi :D
14:12:36 <nribeka> bwolfe is a mentor patri
14:13:25 <patri> march 26 depends on which timezone u r in..
14:13:45 <patri> here, its just 4 hours to midnight..
14:13:54 <patri> ohh.. hi bwolfe
14:14:16 <Keelhaul> It is a day of silence, fasting, and meditation.
14:14:21 <Keelhaul> and you call it "celebrating"? =o
14:14:22 <bwolfe> good evening patri
14:14:53 <r0bby> I hate that i have competiton this summer :(
14:15:13 <patri> u in bali ?
14:15:24 <nribeka> lol Keelhaul :D
14:15:42 <nribeka> i'm in US patri
14:16:05 <Keelhaul> nribeka: found a way to get rid of the stack traces in the log yet? =P
14:16:05 <patri> r0bby : u applying ?
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14:17:16 <r0bby> already did,
14:17:24 <r0bby> I participated last yr
14:18:52 <patri> this my first time.. :|
14:19:48 <patri> r0bby u participated for openmrs ?
14:20:05 <nribeka> Keelhaul, i need to figure out another way to workaround the hibernate jar
14:20:35 <Keelhaul> =/
14:20:49 <nribeka> i think Thread.currentThread().getContextClassLoader() --> returning the tomcat class loader instead (not sure)
14:20:49 <Keelhaul> i had to use a bunch of hacky workarounds in my code for now
14:21:14 <Keelhaul> hm
14:21:15 <nribeka> have you tried to supress the log from tomcat (is it possible?)
14:21:29 <Keelhaul> i was only able to suppress the individual loggers
14:21:40 <Keelhaul> but the traces appear on their own, it seems
14:21:49 <Keelhaul> do arent writing them manually, are you? =)
14:21:54 <Keelhaul> you*
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14:23:12 <nribeka> no. it's not coming from me
14:23:36 <r0bby> nribeka: OpenmrsClassLoader
14:23:40 <r0bby> use that =)
14:24:01 <r0bby> nribeka: you want to grab a hold of the classloader the openmrs webapp is using
14:24:08 <r0bby> tomcat uses a classloader hierarchy
14:24:18 <r0bby> each webapp gets its own classloader
14:25:07 <nribeka> yeah, r0bby how to get each individual class loader? (well, this is not bwolfe preferred solution)
14:25:31 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7165]: Added more javadoc fixes - #143 Author: mkopinsky <> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7164]: serialization branch: Improve class comments on base interfaces and … <>
14:25:54 <nribeka> i'm still tracing the jar
14:26:41 <r0bby> nribeka: the OpenmrsClassLoader
14:27:54 <Keelhaul> wasnt the OpenmrsClassLoader what caused the problem in the first place?
14:29:31 <r0bby> hrm
14:29:43 * r0bby isn't following the issue; i'm just piping uyp
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14:30:28 <nribeka> it didn't use Openmrs one
14:30:50 <Keelhaul> the original problem of user/patient
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14:31:11 <nribeka> the original one didn't use comparison of class
14:31:16 <Keelhaul> oh
14:31:30 <r0bby> make it use it
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14:31:43 * r0bby needed it for the GroovyClassLoader
14:32:28 <nribeka>
14:33:45 <nribeka> my hacky version
14:34:23 <nribeka> original hibernate:
14:34:44 <r0bby> nribeka: try the openmrs classloader
14:34:53 <Keelhaul> so just by the class name?
14:34:56 <r0bby> that may not give you the classpath you need
14:35:19 <nribeka> old openmrs:
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14:36:33 <nribeka> i will try to use the Openmrs one and then give it to Keelhaul and then I will trace to find other way :D
14:36:40 <nribeka> how's that sound?
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14:38:11 <r0bby> try it
14:38:29 <r0bby> using the Openmrs one guarantees you have access to the openmrs classpath
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14:43:11 <Keelhaul> those core class interfaces sound nice
14:44:00 * r0bby sighs
14:44:09 <nribeka> i'm gonna say hi to everyone
14:44:16 <r0bby> For some reason, i don't see myself getting accepted this year :(
14:44:19 <nribeka> so r0bby will have some fierce competition
14:44:20 <nribeka> :D
14:44:35 <Keelhaul> what project did you apply for
14:44:57 <r0bby> Do I look stupid to you?
14:44:57 <r0bby> :P
14:45:16 <nribeka> r0bby going for groovy :)
14:45:22 <r0bby> nribeka: nay
14:45:25 <nribeka> no?
14:45:27 <r0bby> Not gonna make the cut
14:45:33 <Keelhaul> what
14:45:35 <r0bby> Burke has to mentor something else
14:45:35 <nribeka> so which one r0bby?
14:45:40 <r0bby> I'm not telling
14:45:42 <Keelhaul> there are people besides r0bby who care about groovy? =o
14:45:44 <r0bby> i'
14:45:54 <r0bby> Keelhaul: no projects involve groovy this yr
14:46:01 <Keelhaul> true dat
14:46:02 <r0bby> it pisses me off that it's gotta be in java
14:47:04 <r0bby> nribeka: see y!
14:47:05 <Keelhaul> that's not a good motivational basis =/
14:47:41 <r0bby> I'm willing to do it; just would rather do groovy
14:47:46 <r0bby> polyglot programming ftw
14:47:57 <r0bby> it's good
14:48:28 <Keelhaul> maybe one day if acceptance becomes adequate
14:48:51 <Keelhaul> but for now, what's wrong with sticking with widely accepted tech
14:49:10 <nribeka> brb
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14:51:30 <r0bby> hah
14:51:41 <r0bby> my friend wants to work w/ me on groovy forms module
14:54:56 <bwolfe> r0bby: good. :-)
14:55:00 <nribeka> interesting r0bby
14:55:06 <nribeka> hi openmrs_6479
14:56:18 <Keelhaul> brb
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15:02:24 <openmrs_6479> hello every one
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15:05:42 <isurundt> hi justin
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15:07:15 <luzhuangwei> I come from China.I am very glad to jion in our organization.Best regards
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15:14:12 <bwolfe> nribeka: why don't you try a few different things rather than the classloader thing
15:15:23 <bwolfe> nribeka: 1) CacheKey has a note about always using "root" entityName. there are many places that call new CacheKey() passing in getRootEntityName(). try changing all those to send in the entityName
15:15:48 <bwolfe> nribeka: 2) are the .equals and .hashcode different for Person vs Patient vs User ? if they aren't, maybe they should be.
15:18:31 <isurundt> hi ben
15:18:37 <bwolfe> hey
15:19:05 <isurundt> bwolfe:at what stage the patches submitted to a particular ticket is reviewed?
15:19:36 <nribeka> bwolfe, interesting finding :D
15:19:37 <bwolfe> isurundt: there are sometimes periodic reviews
15:19:40 <nribeka> i didn't see that one
15:19:49 <bwolfe> isurundt: and then there is a review right before committing them of course
15:20:05 <bwolfe> nribeka: yeah, just searched for "root" in hibernates src folder
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15:20:57 <nribeka> hi lzw_
15:21:06 <lzw_> hi
15:21:13 <nribeka> bwolfe, i'm allowed to say hi to everyone right :P
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15:21:21 <isurundt> bwolfe:ok. i have completed the ticket #1240. Just need to check whether i have done that in the correct manner..
15:21:22 <bwolfe> nribeka: yep, go for it!
15:21:38 <bwolfe> nribeka: and if you answer their questions...even better
15:21:39 <nribeka> it's not going to fill up the log like what happen to Keelhaul, right? lol
15:21:45 <nribeka> i will try
15:22:10 <nribeka> wellcome to openmrs irc lzw_
15:22:16 <nribeka> are you here for the gsoc?
15:22:20 <lzw_> yes
15:22:24 <lzw_> :-)
15:22:50 <nribeka> ah cool lzw_
15:23:10 <nribeka> have you check the project page for potential idea for gsoc students?
15:24:25 <lzw_> yes, i have see several projects which I am interested
15:25:43 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #1236 (task closed): Initial setup wizard allows you to give a weak password to the admin user <> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7167]: Followup fix for wrong imports in [7166] <> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7166]: Added util method to validate users' passwords. Added check to … <>
15:26:43 <nribeka> cool ;)
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15:30:41 <nribeka> next step would be contacting the mentors lzw_
15:31:03 <nribeka> have you tried to install and run openmrs?
15:32:31 <lzw_> yes,i have tried it.but i havn't download source code,i will do this soon.
15:37:50 <nribeka> cool lzw_
15:38:06 <nribeka> i don't know if you seen this message before
15:38:10 <nribeka> !bwolfesays
15:38:10 <OpenMRSBot> nribeka: "bwolfesays" --- FYI to all potential GSoC Applicants: OpenMRS welcomes multiple applications for multiple projects within openmrs. Actually, we encourage it! Sometimes we get quality students only applying to a low priority project. So pick a few projects that interest you, apply to all of them, and put comments in them saying which other ones you've applied to
15:38:19 <nribeka> !soc
15:38:19 <OpenMRSBot> nribeka: "soc" --- (#1), or (#2), or (#3)
15:38:34 <nribeka> and submit proposal early :)
15:42:03 <lzw_> ok,thank you very much:-)
15:44:06 <nribeka> great ;)
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15:53:25 <jmiranda> bwolfe, if students apply for multiple projects, do you think we should ask them to rank based on their preference
15:53:55 <bwolfe> yeah probably
15:53:56 <jmiranda> i think this would help us make a better match (like the residency match)
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16:30:25 <lzw_> jmiranda:thank you:-) Now, I know,I will apply for my interested projects according your suggestion
16:30:49 <jmiranda> lzw_, which suggestion?
16:31:05 <jmiranda> lzw_, do you mean ranking your projects?
16:31:25 <lzw_> rank projects based on our preference
16:31:33 <lzw_> ye
16:41:04 <jmiranda> lzw_, glad i could help : )
16:41:04 <jmiranda> which projects are you interested in.
16:42:17 <lzw_> ok,thank you
16:42:29 <lzw_> first,Role-based home page
16:42:37 <lzw_> second,Serialization Service
16:42:58 <lzw_> these tow project are which i am interested
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16:43:27 <lzw_> And I am preparing for write the proposal now
16:43:52 <lzw_> I will submit my apply soon
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16:57:15 <jmiranda> just one more comment about matching
16:57:58 <jmiranda> pick the projects that you're most interested in and write really good proposals / applications for those
16:58:32 <jmiranda> because of the high number of applications per projects (5 - 10)
16:59:02 <jmiranda> you may not get selected for the project you want
16:59:27 <jmiranda> but if another mentor likes your proposal / application they might ask you to work on their project
16:59:53 <jmiranda> the point: don't stretch yourself thin trying to apply for all of the projects
17:00:05 <jmiranda> unless you actually are interested in all of them
17:00:32 <jmiranda> try to write really good proposals for 2 - 3 projects
17:01:24 <Mkop2> I am officially going insane
17:01:24 <jmiranda> all mentors will be reviewing all/most of the applications, so if you're proposal is good, we'll definitely take notice
17:01:36 <jmiranda> Mkop2, how come?
17:01:50 <Mkop2> I have two assignments due at 3:00
17:02:04 <Mkop2> I can't concentrate on the one because I'm panicking about the other
17:02:08 <jmiranda> so ... do them
17:02:13 <jmiranda> :)
17:02:15 <jmiranda> just kidding
17:02:18 <Mkop2> I can't concentrate on the other because I'm panicking on the first one
17:02:20 <jmiranda> take a breath
17:02:38 <Mkop2> so instead I play stupid flash games and hang out in IRC
17:02:43 <jmiranda> try to break them down into more manageable pieces
17:02:54 <Mkop2> (this has been the story of the past couple days)
17:02:58 <jmiranda> i know
17:03:13 <jmiranda> you and i are like mirror images, but 10 years apart
17:03:34 <jmiranda> the key is to break them down into small pieces
17:03:49 <jmiranda> if you won't be able to get the second one done by 3pm
17:03:52 <jmiranda> forget about it
17:03:58 <jmiranda> ask for an extension
17:04:03 <jmiranda> and then concentrate on the other
17:04:04 <Mkop2> you know what, by 1:15 I'm gonna have slides on the major steps of the application for my presentation
17:04:18 <jmiranda> what are the assignments?
17:04:46 <jmiranda> yeah, break things down into 15-30 minute tasks
17:05:25 <jmiranda> i'm in the same place right now
17:05:58 <jmiranda> i have to fix a bug and prepare for an interview with a PIH intern
17:06:11 <Mkop2> one is a presentation on Active Shape Models for image analysis
17:06:25 <Mkop2> the other is a progress report on a major project for image analysis class
17:06:38 <jmiranda> which one is in panic mode
17:06:55 <vindyani> hi jmiranda
17:07:11 <vindyani> thank you for ur mail
17:07:15 <vindyani> i tried this
17:07:16 <vindyani>
17:07:41 <Mkop2> both are in panic mode
17:07:45 <Mkop2> both were due on Monday
17:08:06 <vindyani> so I get test option in drop down list for both occurrences, i.e empty and non empty global property
17:08:36 <jmiranda> you can only do one at a time
17:08:46 <jmiranda> which one is more doable
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17:10:24 <jmiranda> vindyani, i'm confused
17:10:26 <jmiranda> is it working?
17:10:44 <jmiranda> i wanted you to replace
17:10:45 <jmiranda> <option disabled>&nbsp; <spring:messagecode="DrugOrder.add.error.missingFrequency.interactions"arguments="dashboard.regimen.displayFrequencies"/></option>
17:11:00 <jmiranda> with <option disabled> testing to see if this shows up</option>
17:12:22 <vindyani> ok, i hope my method is doing the same
17:12:34 <vindyani> anyway i will try this nw, and let u know
17:14:01 <vindyani> no, its not working
17:14:34 <vindyani> for both cases, it execute <c:otherwise> block
17:15:42 <jmiranda> ok
17:16:56 <jmiranda> add something like fn:length(drugFrequencies)<=0 into the <c:when> test
17:17:17 <vindyani> ok, cool
17:17:47 <jmiranda> or whatever is used in jstl to test the size of a collection
17:18:48 <vindyani> ok
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17:27:57 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #1349 (enhancement created): Patient Program Reason Deleted Needed <>
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17:51:09 <nimanthab> hi!
17:51:37 <nimanthab> I am Nimantha from University of Moratuwa in Sri Lanka
17:52:05 <nimanthab> I thought of attempting to fix an issue reported through a ticket in OpenMrs
17:52:17 <nimanthab> can anyone of you tell me how I should get started
17:52:18 <nimanthab> ?
17:55:34 <bmckown> Hi, nimanthab ...
17:55:54 <bmckown> If you haven't created a user on trac site, please do that.
17:56:04 <nimanthab> i already did that
17:56:05 <bmckown>
17:56:28 <bmckown> Okay. Then you can accept the ticket for yourself.
17:57:00 <bmckown> The privileges should allow you to do so... let me know if not.
17:57:44 <nimanthab> this is the ticket i picked
17:57:45 <nimanthab>
17:58:05 <bmckown> And if you need help working on the ticket, let us (or me) know so we (or I) can help. I type too slow.
17:58:22 <nimanthab> how do I assign it to myself brian?
17:58:32 <nimanthab> by replying to the discussion?
17:59:27 <bmckown> The trac site should allow you to accept the ticket.
18:00:32 <bmckown> Following the ticket link you posted.... if you go to the bottom of the page to the Action section there is a checkbox to "accept ticket" and then click submit.
18:00:51 <bmckown> Are you able to see the Action section and do that?
18:02:11 <nimanthab> i don't get an Action section
18:02:26 <nimanthab> there is a text box to enter a comment and publish
18:02:59 <nimanthab> at the bottom
18:04:22 <bmckown> I see. hmm.
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18:06:16 <bmckown> nimanthab, can you try to refresh the page.. try again i mean.
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18:07:38 <bmckown> maybe need to log out and log back in
18:08:16 <nimanthab> got it done brian
18:08:23 <bmckown> cool. :-)
18:08:26 <nimanthab> created a report of tickets
18:08:34 <nimanthab> and followed the needed one
18:08:36 <nimanthab> :)
18:08:46 <nimanthab> you should put a ticket for that too
18:08:47 <nimanthab> ;)
18:09:46 <nimanthab> i will work on this tomorrow
18:09:49 <bmckown> a ticket for what? (BTW I don't see a change on )
18:10:16 <nimanthab> no no just kidding.. it must be a problem with my internet connection
18:10:33 <nimanthab> when i checked the ticket first i was only allowed to publish a comment
18:10:34 <bmckown> no, i added you to the developer group a few minutes ago.
18:10:36 <bmckown> on trac
18:10:42 <nimanthab> ohh
18:10:46 <nimanthab> so that's it
18:10:46 <bmckown> so you should now have privileges to edit tickets.
18:10:48 <nimanthab> thanks
18:10:52 <nimanthab> :)
18:10:54 <bmckown> sure.
18:11:05 <bmckown> thank you for tackling a ticket. :-)
18:11:15 <nimanthab> no probs
18:11:25 <nimanthab> want to contribute to this amazing project
18:11:29 <nimanthab> :)
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18:11:31 <nimanthab> i will start work on this tomorrow
18:11:37 <nimanthab> plz help me if i get stuck
18:11:47 <bmckown> okay. sure.
18:12:11 <nimanthab> im signing out
18:12:16 <nimanthab> thanks a lot for everything
18:12:22 <nimanthab> :)
18:12:26 <bmckown> okay. thank you, nimanthab . g'night.
18:12:32 <nimanthab> gud night
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18:54:37 <vindyani> hi jmiranda
18:54:49 <jmiranda> hey vindyani
18:55:02 <vindyani> i remote debug the code to test what is happening
18:55:38 <vindyani> i found out in GlobalPropertyTag line 55
18:56:02 <vindyani> we do something like Object value = Arrays.asList("".split(","));
18:56:43 <vindyani> so this (List)value is set to drugFrequencies
18:56:59 <vindyani> if u run this code
18:57:08 <vindyani> it prints out length is 1
18:57:49 <vindyani> i think it seems that the list size is not = 0
18:57:55 <vindyani> am i right?
19:08:17 <vindyani> jmiranda, ut?
19:09:07 <vindyani> i m going to sleep nw, its almost past mid night
19:09:19 <jmiranda> vindyani, yeah ... just trying to do too much at the same time (as usual)
19:09:43 <vindyani> ok, np, i will talk to u tomorrow
19:09:51 <jmiranda> no, i'll take a look
19:09:56 <jmiranda> just give me a sec
19:10:01 <vindyani> ok, np
19:11:00 <nribeka> the split will give [] vindyani
19:11:10 <vindyani> yes
19:11:11 <nribeka> that's why it will add one element to the list
19:12:54 <vindyani> so in a jsp, to find whether list is empty we need <c:whentest="${fn:length(list)> 1}">
19:13:06 <vindyani> is that so, nribeka
19:13:08 <vindyani> ?
19:14:58 <nribeka> i'm following you vindyani
19:15:11 <nribeka> i think there's an empty test for jstl
19:16:15 <vindyani> <c:iftest="${emptylist}"> doesn't work either
19:16:46 <vindyani> for a []
19:18:37 <bwolfe> vindyani / jmiranda : how about <c:iftest="${fn:length(list)> 0}> ?
19:19:31 <jmiranda> but if the global property = ""
19:19:59 <jmiranda> then the test will be true
19:20:04 <jmiranda> and i think we want it to return false
19:20:14 <bwolfe> length works on lists and strings I think
19:21:31 <jmiranda> right
19:21:52 <jmiranda> and the array returned by the global property tag (with a delimiter specification) returns a 1 element array with ""
19:22:02 <jmiranda> if the global property = ""
19:22:05 <vindyani> yes
19:22:30 <jmiranda> unfortunately, we can't distinguish between "" and "test"
19:22:45 <jmiranda> in other words, we want to add "test" to the select list
19:22:57 <jmiranda> we want to display a default message "no frequencies" on ""
19:23:28 <jmiranda> we could rewrite the tag lib method to return an empty array
19:23:45 <vindyani> will i do it?
19:23:54 <jmiranda> or (in the jsp) you can iterate over the array
19:23:54 <vindyani> i m interested in it
19:24:10 <jmiranda> and check to see if any of the elements are != ""
19:24:27 <vindyani> that will help
19:24:43 <jmiranda> setting a variable <c:setvar="arrayNotEmpty"></c:set>
19:24:56 <jmiranda> in the case that the array is not empty
19:25:01 <jmiranda> true otherwise
19:25:26 <jmiranda> i'd prefer the former solution (if that's what we think the expected behavior of that tag should be)
19:25:27 <nribeka> i think [] = empty array
19:25:41 <jmiranda> but that might require some refactoring of existing code
19:26:51 <vindyani> but when i do a search for listSeparator=","
19:27:09 <vindyani> it only give me 1 occurrence
19:27:47 <vindyani> this modification will only affect that, isn't it?
19:29:53 <jmiranda> if that's the case, then i assume so
19:29:57 <jmiranda> seems odd though
19:30:08 <jmiranda> and there are probably some modules using it
19:30:31 <jmiranda> but we'll just have to notify module developers of the change
19:30:56 <jmiranda> bwolfe, do you agree with this change?
19:31:37 <jmiranda> Arrays.asList("".split(","))
19:31:53 <jmiranda> this returns a list of one element [""]
19:32:08 <bwolfe> odd
19:32:09 <jmiranda> seems like we should adopt that convention and provide a workaround
19:32:30 <bwolfe> so it returns the same string if no matches are found ?
19:32:37 <jmiranda> yeah
19:32:40 <vindyani> yes
19:32:41 <jmiranda> which sort of makes sense
19:33:00 <jmiranda> if it was "a" you'd want it to return "a"
19:33:10 <jmiranda> Arrays.asList("a".split(",")) should return ["a"]
19:34:26 <jmiranda> i guess we should actually check for empty string before performing the split
19:34:26 <bwolfe> <c:iftest="${fn:length(list)==0or(fn:length(list)==1&&fn:contains(list},'')>
19:34:36 <jmiranda> or do that
19:35:09 <jmiranda> i just want to make sure that the globalProperty tag is doing what it's supposed to
19:35:39 <jmiranda> do we really want to return a list with one empty element when a global property is the empty string
19:35:52 <bwolfe> I think devs would expect "".asList to return an empty list
19:37:21 <jmiranda> there's actually a JSTL tag that splits a string
19:37:36 <jmiranda> vindyani, try using fn:split with the global property as a string (not a list)
19:37:45 <jmiranda> see what it returns
19:38:02 <vindyani> ok
19:38:30 <jmiranda> if it's an empty list, then we should replicate that behavior
19:38:51 <jmiranda> if it's a list with an element (""), then we should replicate that behavior
19:39:01 <jmiranda> but i agree with ben
19:39:15 <jmiranda> makes more sense to return an empty list (as in a list with no elements)
19:39:27 <jmiranda> bwolfe, that's what you meant ... right ben?
19:40:01 <bwolfe> jmiranda, yes justin, that is what I meant jmiranda, truly miranda
19:40:08 <bwolfe> :-)
19:40:23 <vindyani> jmiranda, i will continue this tomorrow, i m sleepy nw, :)
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19:40:47 <jmiranda> vindyani, sounds good. bwolfe is also getting tired, right bwolfe? aren't you bwolfe?
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19:42:28 <nribeka> lol bwolfe
19:42:36 <nribeka> Mkop2 how's your hw
19:42:52 <Mkop2> just gave a presentation in class
19:42:56 <Mkop2> did a BAAAD job
19:46:13 <nribeka> ouch Mkop2
19:47:11 <Mkop2> indeed
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20:01:48 <sgrannis> nribkea: want to start work on a manual review GUI?
20:02:07 <sgrannis> to work on till the end of the month?
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20:03:43 <nribeka> yes sure
20:03:46 <nribeka> hi sgrannis
20:03:49 <nribeka> it's been a while
20:03:50 <nribeka> :)
20:04:44 <nribeka> hi tamasiaina
20:04:53 <tamasiaina> Hi how are you!
20:04:59 <nribeka> good ;)
20:05:17 <nribeka> i'm guessing you here for gsoc?
20:07:08 <tamasiaina> Yeah, i've been interested in gsoc, but more interested in helping out
20:07:49 <nribeka> ah that's cool :)
20:07:53 <tamasiaina> I am a little bit interested in the time requirements for the GSOC projects?
20:08:39 <nribeka> time requirements tamasiaina?
20:09:07 <nribeka> bwolfe, i guess no Nyepi for me this year too :D
20:09:18 <jmiranda> tamasiaina, i think we're looking for 60+ hours per week
20:09:32 <jmiranda> tamasiaina, just kidding
20:09:38 <bwolfe> nribeka: heh
20:09:39 <tamasiaina> thank goodness :P
20:09:43 <bwolfe> jmiranda: I thought we wanted 70?
20:09:51 <bwolfe> def no more than 75
20:09:51 <tamasiaina> I had an unusual facde at that moment
20:09:53 <jmiranda> yeah, that's why i said was joking
20:10:03 <jmiranda> 60? c'mon ... that's not "working"
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20:10:52 <tamasiaina> Dang, I was hoping for 5 hours a week ;)
20:10:56 <nribeka> hahahaha
20:10:58 <nribeka> lol
20:11:03 <jmiranda> tamasiaina, i think the goal is to get students committed to about 30 - 40 hours per week (i tried looking that up but couldn't find an FAQ for it)
20:11:11 <Mkop2> 5 hours for every mars day
20:11:20 <nribeka> at least 28h/day
20:11:29 <nribeka> i wish a day is more than 24h
20:11:41 <jmiranda> so if you're planning on doing a full-time (or even part-time) job, then you might want to think twice about applying
20:12:00 <nribeka> bwolfe, i got assignment from my advisor. due tomorrow. so i can't turn off my laptop tonight :(
20:12:26 <tamasiaina> Yeah, I am for the summer because I am planning to get married, so that knocks out alot of things
20:12:36 <tamasiaina> er... I am in a bind for the summer
20:14:12 <tamasiaina> That's why I have been interested in doing GSOC, but worried that I can't dedicate all that is necessary
20:14:21 <nribeka> wow ... someone is getting married in the summer :D
20:14:26 <nribeka> congrats tamasiaina :)
20:14:56 <tamasiaina> thanks
20:15:01 <Mkop2> yeah, congrats
20:15:09 <tamasiaina> Planning has been ... what we would say fun especially being in school
20:15:32 <tamasiaina> Has there been a lot of people interested in GSOC?
20:16:55 <nribeka> i think there will be more people in the night :)
20:17:00 <nribeka> night EST
20:17:29 <tamasiaina> Has it been very competative?
20:18:15 <Mkop2> it's probably too early to tell, no?
20:18:24 <Mkop2> the application's only been open for 2 days, and it's open for another 9
20:18:30 <nribeka> it's going to be fierce :D
20:18:57 <nribeka> what was the ratio last year bwolfe? 1:100?
20:18:58 <nribeka> lol
20:19:13 <tamasiaina> So should i bring in the shotguns? or baseball bats?
20:19:40 <bwolfe> I think we had about 100 apps last year and 10 spots
20:19:53 <Mkop2> how many of them were quality apps vs. throw-aways?
20:20:27 <bmckown> Today is a day that I did not take mucinex.
20:20:42 <jmiranda> tmi
20:20:45 <nribeka> baseball gun bats
20:20:51 <bmckown> I can't take it every day. It's expensive.
20:21:15 <jmiranda> nribeka, ahhh ... i was just trying to think of ben's invention
20:21:35 <bwolfe> we only threw one away outright
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20:21:49 <bwolfe> but probably ~10 weren't even in the ballpark
20:21:53 <bwolfe> my invention ?
20:22:13 <nribeka> baseball gun bat is bwolfe latest invention :D
20:22:42 <bwolfe> ah yes. ol' trusty
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20:24:21 <nribeka> i think we will get more apps this year (hopefully) :)
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20:29:54 <tamasiaina> what would constitute someone to be eligble?
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20:35:46 <nribeka> time + student = gsoc tamasiaina
20:35:51 <nribeka> hi andrewaclt
20:35:55 <andrewaclt> Hello.
20:36:15 <andrewaclt> I've been having quite the issue deploying OpenMRS within eclipse.
20:36:19 <nribeka> gsoc potential :)
20:36:30 <nribeka> ?
20:37:38 <nribeka> what is the problem andrewaclt?
20:38:05 <andrewaclt> I can deploy the app but I can't start it, within eclipse using tomcat 5.5
20:38:25 <andrewaclt> the console output is a very long stack trace
20:38:36 <andrewaclt> but it was complaining about mysql user test
20:39:04 <andrewaclt> I'm using svn tag 1.3.4, tomcat 5.5.latest.
20:39:25 <nribeka> you can pastebin the log andrewaclt
20:40:05 <andrewaclt> sure, it's getting cutoff, however, it's a db issue it looks like
20:40:36 <jmiranda> andrewaclt, you need a runtime properties file
20:40:44 <jmiranda> to specify the db user/password
20:41:10 <andrewaclt> I have a file in ~/.OpenMR/
20:41:19 <jmiranda>
20:41:20 <OpenMRSBot> <> (at
20:41:25 <jmiranda> ok
20:42:05 <andrewaclt> oh.
20:42:16 <andrewaclt> trunk is different then, because it has a wizard?
20:42:23 <jmiranda> make sure it conforms to the specifications on that page
20:42:26 <nribeka> yes trunk has wizard
20:42:33 <andrewaclt> okay, I had issues with trunk too
20:42:36 <nribeka> it will create the props for you
20:42:39 <andrewaclt> but one thing at a time heh
20:42:56 <jmiranda> it shoudl create the db user too
20:43:09 <jmiranda> but it should use openmrs, not test
20:43:20 <jmiranda> so there's something screwy there
20:43:54 <andrewaclt> You're talking about trunk, right?
20:44:20 <andrewaclt> Trunk gave me the following:
20:44:25 <andrewaclt> that was after running the wizard
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20:44:44 <andrewaclt> ...after I click "Finish"
20:45:34 <jmiranda> yeah
20:45:39 <bmckown> Are you using the eclipse build, andrewaclt or the Ant build from within eclipse?
20:45:46 <jmiranda> well, the wizard should walk you through and create the db for you
20:45:54 <andrewaclt> Ant buld from within eclipse
20:45:57 <andrewaclt> *build
20:46:00 <jmiranda> (as well as the runtime properties)
20:46:23 <tamasiaina> what kind of project could I help out on if I were not gsoc?
20:46:31 <bmckown> Probably better to use Ant build. and use the "install" or "update"
20:46:41 <jmiranda> tamasiaina, anything you want
20:46:48 <jmiranda> tamasiaina, what are you interested in
20:47:02 <bmckown> That I know of (haven't used eclipse in awhile) the eclipse build didn't deploy openmrs correctly because of the context.
20:47:17 <andrewaclt> bmckown: oh
20:47:34 <tamasiaina> I have been lately interested in web applications and service-oriented architecture
20:47:34 <jmiranda> andrewaclt, could you post the stacktrace (from the logs)
20:47:55 <andrewaclt> jmiranda: Are you talking about for my issue with trunk, or my issue with 1.3.4?
20:49:25 <jmiranda> sorry, i was referring to the "test" issue
20:49:37 <jmiranda> 1.3.4 is pre-wizard right?
20:50:06 <jmiranda> are you just doing the webapp as openmrs.war
20:50:43 <andrewaclt> jmiranda: yes, yes
20:51:04 <jmiranda> what platform?
20:51:08 <andrewaclt> jmiranda osx
20:52:01 <jmiranda> post the first ~100 lines of the log
20:52:24 <jmiranda> and then the last 100 or so lines (or as much as needed to include the stacktrace)
20:53:02 <andrewaclt> jmiranda: do you think it would be more useful to just consider the issues I get with trunk or the 1.3.4 issue?
20:54:15 <jmiranda> whichever one you want to use
20:55:03 <andrewaclt> Okay, I'll ignore 1.3.4 and stick with trunk, two seconds...
20:55:05 <jmiranda> the trunk issue might be related to bwolfe's latest memory management changes
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20:58:22 <andrewaclt> I'm on some coffee shops horrible wifi, so svn is quite slow. :/
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21:01:27 <andrewaclt> Do you guys not use eclipse for development of openmrs? I'm new, but I ran into several issues like /manager not being available due to the default eclipse config...
21:05:57 <jmiranda> andrewaclt, sorry for the delay
21:06:07 <jmiranda> yeah, we mostly use eclipse
21:06:09 <jmiranda> except brian
21:06:39 <jmiranda> until i get eclipse / ant / openmrs set up exactly right
21:06:44 <jmiranda> i usually just build the war
21:06:53 <jmiranda> and copy it to tomcat/webapps manually
21:07:28 <jmiranda> to get eclipse/ant/openmrs working right you need to mess around with the file
21:07:31 <jmiranda> (tomcat properties)
21:07:55 <jmiranda> and make sure that the tomcat conf file has a valid "admin" or "manager" user
21:08:20 <andrewaclt> I edited the tomcat-users.xml is there something else I need to edit?
21:08:24 <jmiranda> for dev, i add user "tomcat" (with password "tomcat") to tomcat users file
21:08:30 <andrewaclt> (I can get to /initialsetup)
21:09:03 <jmiranda> and make sure that user has role = "manager,admin"
21:09:21 <andrewaclt> yeah
21:09:30 <andrewaclt> It deployed, going through the wizard now
21:09:34 <jmiranda> and then the tomcat properties in should reflect
21:09:39 <jmiranda> ok cool
21:10:16 <andrewaclt> looks unchanged.
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21:14:20 <jmiranda> i mean, you need to change it
21:15:03 <jmiranda> are you getting an error still?
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21:16:00 <andrewaclt> jmiranda:
21:17:26 <jmiranda> andrewaclt, i'm guessing this is a bug
21:17:52 <jmiranda> i think there's an issue with the wizard due to ben's recent changes
21:18:08 <andrewaclt> oh
21:18:36 <jmiranda> there was a memory leak because user contexts (where we keep user info) was being added to the session
21:18:45 <jmiranda> and never being removed (as far as i remember)
21:19:06 <andrewaclt> I see.
21:19:08 <jmiranda> i think ben might not have considered the initialsetup servlet when he made that change
21:19:42 <jmiranda> and i believe that requests to /initialsetup skip the filter that adds the user context to the session
21:20:00 <jmiranda> you might be the first person to try running that setup wizard since those changes were made
21:20:09 <jmiranda> wanna create a bug report for this?
21:20:36 <andrewaclt> Sure
21:25:17 <andrewaclt>
21:25:34 <andrewaclt> Is that enough detail?
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21:28:09 <jmiranda> andrewaclt, yeah that looks good
21:28:16 <jmiranda> i'll cc ben and myself on the ticket
21:28:25 <jmiranda> if we need more information, we'll add comments
21:28:36 <jmiranda> slash questions
21:28:44 <andrewaclt> okay, I've not used trac before, do you get emails when somebody responds?
21:29:07 <Mkop2> andrewaclt: the dev list gets emails anytime anyone comments on a ticket
21:29:11 <jmiranda> you should if you provided an email address when you registered
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21:29:39 <andrewaclt> jmiranda, Mkop2: thanks
21:29:49 <jmiranda> Mkop2, is that true?
21:30:03 <Mkop2> jmiranda: check your email. you'll see them there
21:30:43 <jmiranda> yeah, i get them sent to me from
21:30:53 <jmiranda> but thought it was only when i was cc'd
21:31:28 <jmiranda> i guess you're right
21:32:42 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #1350 (task created): Install Wizard Fails <>
21:32:43 <jmiranda> andrewaclt, could you attach the screenshot as well
21:33:00 <jmiranda> (to the ticket)
21:33:18 <andrewaclt> sure
21:34:05 <tamasiaina> What made you guys want to do this open source project?
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21:40:21 <andrewaclt> Is trunk 1.5?
21:40:36 <Keelhaul> yes
21:40:56 <andrewaclt> So 1.4 is a seperate branch?
21:41:36 <Keelhaul> yep
21:42:16 <andrewaclt> Is that still planned to be released sometime soon?
21:42:35 <Keelhaul> 1.4 is release candidate now
21:42:37 <Keelhaul> so fairly soon
21:43:12 <andrewaclt> Does 1.4 have the wizard installer?
21:43:54 <Keelhaul> hmm not sure
21:44:37 <andrewaclt> When was 1.4 split off from trunk?
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21:46:28 <Keelhaul> right before trunk was switched to 1.5, i think =)
21:47:00 <andrewaclt> lol
21:47:13 <Keelhaul> i think last fall or so
21:48:35 <andrewaclt> How can I check if it has the wizard?
21:49:37 <Keelhaul> try running it without having an file
21:49:48 <Keelhaul>
21:49:48 <andrewaclt> lol
21:49:50 <Keelhaul> or smt
21:49:59 <Keelhaul> i'm serious
21:50:11 <Keelhaul> the wizard only kicks in if you dont have a db to connect to
21:50:14 <andrewaclt> I was looking at the source tree and trying to see if there is anything obivious.
21:50:33 <andrewaclt> *obvious
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22:01:12 <andrewaclt> Thank you guys for all the help! Cya.
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23:13:14 <nribeka> home time. be back from home
23:13:14 <nribeka> :)
23:14:56 <Mkop2> seeya, nribeka
23:17:20 <nribeka> cya Mkop2
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23:37:03 <Keelhaul> bwolfe: how can i make defined concept drugs appear on that dashboard tab?
23:37:28 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: isn't there a global property to do it ?
23:38:11 <Keelhaul> bwolfe: not sure, i recently realized i never really tried regimens because the workflow was so unclear
23:39:16 <Keelhaul> oic
23:39:27 <Keelhaul> i have to put all concept sets into the property
23:39:33 <Keelhaul> how inconvenient =/
23:52:37 <andrewaclt> Does anybody know if 1.4 has the installer?
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23:54:18 <Keelhaul> bwolfe: oh my, an xml document in a global property?
23:55:19 <Mkop2> almost as good as baseball gun bat: about 1:00 in
23:57:42 <bwolfe> andrewaclt: I don't think one has been built yet
23:57:57 <andrewaclt> bwolfe: ok, thank you
23:58:28 <Mkop2> andrewaclt: do you mean the wizard that comes up the first time you run openmrs?
23:58:39 <andrewaclt> Mkop2: yes
23:58:51 <Mkop2> bwolfe: did you think that's what he meant?
23:59:40 <Mkop2> I don't know stuff, but I sense a misunderstanding
23:59:41 <bwolfe> oh, no
23:59:53 <bwolfe> I thought you mean an exe installer
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