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01:19:08 <r0bby> oh no
01:19:17 <r0bby> more than one nribeka :X
01:19:23 <r0bby> this can't be good
01:20:28 <nribeka1> yes sir
01:20:31 <nribeka1> i'm the real one
01:20:33 <nribeka1> lol
01:20:54 <Keelhaul> the one and only
01:22:36 <nribeka1> :D
01:23:14 <r0bby> I'm the real r0bby
01:23:17 <r0bby> the one and only
01:26:39 <Keelhaul> bwolfe: need a test generator that also generates the method body =)
01:27:01 <bwolfe> hehe
01:29:02 <r0bby> bwolfe: i demand an IDEA plugin :)
01:29:13 <bwolfe> r0bby: I demand you build it :)
01:29:18 <r0bby> denied!
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01:29:26 <r0bby> oh this can't be good
01:29:30 <r0bby> THREE!?!?!?!
01:29:33 <nribeka2> now there's three
01:29:38 <bwolfe> its an nribeka invasion!
01:30:00 <nribeka2> the router is not working
01:30:03 <nribeka2> :(
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01:30:48 <r0bby> bwolfe: that would make a good summer of project :)
01:30:52 <nribeka2> he left
01:31:03 <r0bby> useless since you advocate eclipse :)
01:31:04 <r0bby> :(
01:31:25 <Keelhaul> summer of project eh
01:31:28 <r0bby> I <3 my IDEA you can pry it from cold, dead, hands
01:32:21 <r0bby> say whatever happened to mshanks?
01:32:25 <r0bby> did he ditch it?
01:32:25 <Keelhaul> r0bby: maybe if you stopped using renegade technology, you'd have more tools to play with =P
01:32:29 <r0bby> and faikl last summer
01:32:40 <r0bby> ?!?!?!
01:32:46 <r0bby> you mean a kickass IDE?
01:33:18 <r0bby> I need to start coding before burke denies me my updated license key for IDEA :<
01:33:47 <Keelhaul> =o
01:33:51 * r0bby humps his elvis operator
01:33:51 <Keelhaul> it costs money too?
01:33:58 <r0bby> yeh -- openmrs has a free OSS license
01:33:59 <Keelhaul> no wonder nobody uses it
01:34:08 <r0bby> Keelhaul: we have a project license though.
01:34:35 <r0bby> it's not cheap -- but i'd pay for it! :)
01:34:45 <r0bby> oh man
01:34:48 <Keelhaul> that what mac users say
01:34:58 <r0bby> every time i look at this line i get tingly
01:34:59 <r0bby> props ?: null
01:34:59 <r0bby> :D
01:35:19 <nribeka2> it's expensive
01:35:21 <r0bby> I code in groovy whenever i can :)
01:35:28 <nribeka2> idea is gratis for oss though
01:35:31 <r0bby> nribeka2: talk to burke
01:36:22 <r0bby> HAHAHA it can't handle the elvis operator sanely!
01:36:28 <r0bby> it goes back to normal ternary
01:37:35 * r0bby dances
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02:37:22 <r0bby> upul!!!!!!!!
02:37:42 <upul> r0bby!!!!
02:41:03 <bwolfe> lol!!!!!!
02:43:12 <Keelhaul> is there a way to prevent decompiling in java?
02:43:24 <r0bby> liek ohh-em-gee!!111
02:43:39 <r0bby> Keelhaul: obfuscation using proguard or similar
02:44:29 <Keelhaul> bwolfe: what is DWR used for besides infopath?
02:44:55 <r0bby> Keelhaul: all of the special fields
02:44:59 <r0bby> concepts, patient, etc
02:45:05 <r0bby> the patient search field
02:45:08 <Keelhaul> the selector widgets?
02:45:10 <Keelhaul> etc
02:45:10 <r0bby> DWR is amazing :)
02:45:12 <r0bby> yes
02:45:43 <Keelhaul> what about dojo
02:45:52 <r0bby> that's totally different.
02:46:03 <r0bby> DWR marshals js->java objects
02:46:16 <r0bby> and vice versa
02:46:37 <r0bby> dojo is something similar to jquery and in fact i believe it's being removed in favor of jquery or so i heard
02:47:03 <Keelhaul> oh
02:47:06 <bwolfe> yes, jquery will replace dojo
02:47:10 <Keelhaul> i c
02:47:26 <Keelhaul> i thought the search fields come from dojo
02:47:27 <bwolfe> dwr works behind jquery/dojo to send js requests to the server, do the search, then send back js results
02:47:59 <Keelhaul> hmm
02:48:34 <Keelhaul> i could really make my modules' ui more comfortable if i knew jquery or dojo
02:48:37 <r0bby> for example both Groovy Forms and the Groovy Module use DWR to compile the groovy code and send back the results of the compilation
02:48:59 <r0bby> Groovy Forms uses it for editing only though
02:49:06 <Keelhaul> send back to the client?
02:49:12 <r0bby> Keelhaul: yeh
02:49:16 <Keelhaul> it's run client side?
02:49:26 <r0bby> the compilation happens server side
02:49:29 <r0bby> hold on
02:51:00 <r0bby>
02:51:05 <OpenMRSBot> <> (at
02:51:16 <r0bby> a great deal of that is gonna be removed
02:52:01 <Keelhaul> no ;
02:52:02 <Keelhaul> heh
02:52:06 <r0bby>
02:52:08 <OpenMRSBot> <> (at
02:52:10 <r0bby> that's the groovy module
02:52:11 <Keelhaul> why isnt everything red!
02:52:20 <r0bby> red?
02:52:29 <r0bby> it's groovy :D
02:52:32 <Keelhaul> in java, eclipse would make every line red now
02:52:38 <r0bby> why?
02:52:46 <r0bby> That's valid groovy
02:52:56 <Keelhaul> yea i know
02:53:03 <Keelhaul> just feels so unreal to me
02:53:06 <r0bby>
02:53:07 <OpenMRSBot> <> (at
02:53:37 <Keelhaul> so the jsp just displays the groovy class that comes from the server?
02:53:44 <r0bby>
02:53:47 <OpenMRSBot> <> (at
02:53:49 <r0bby> all of the JS from groovy forms
02:53:50 <Keelhaul> does it look like a java applet on the page then?
02:53:59 <r0bby> is at the top and neatly seperated into functions
02:54:13 <r0bby> mostly done for maintainability reasons
02:54:49 <r0bby> nay
02:54:52 <r0bby> JS != java
02:55:26 <r0bby> DWR is one of the most useful framework i ever used
02:56:55 <r0bby> Keelhaul: the reason i ommitted public in my code is that by default the access modifier in groovy is public
02:57:07 <r0bby> there is no package privatem furthurmore, private is NOT respected
02:57:21 <Keelhaul> no, i was wondering what exactly comes back to the browser
02:57:40 <Keelhaul> and how it looks like
02:57:42 <r0bby> the result of the method :)
02:59:01 <r0bby> recently, we've updated to DWR 2.x on the request of me :)
02:59:33 <r0bby> previously we used DWR 1.x (i don';t know the exact version, lucky i don't have to change my code)
02:59:34 <Keelhaul> i added dwr classes for my services
02:59:37 <Keelhaul> but never used them anywhere
02:59:48 <r0bby> it's pretty easy to use
02:59:56 <r0bby> American Airlines is using it
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03:02:22 <Keelhaul> bwolfe: auto test header generation doesnt work for me =/
03:02:33 <Keelhaul> american airlines use dwr?
03:02:38 <r0bby> I think so
03:02:41 <Keelhaul> for what
03:02:43 <r0bby> one of the major airlines does
03:03:08 <Keelhaul> something on the planes or just their website?
03:03:11 <r0bby> checking available flights
03:03:15 <Keelhaul> oh
03:03:16 <r0bby> Keelhaul: their site :P
03:03:33 <Keelhaul> damn
03:03:36 <Keelhaul> i wish a day had more hours
03:03:57 <Keelhaul> i'd like to learn jquery
03:04:06 <Keelhaul> and development on wm/android devices
03:04:10 <nribeka2> you can go to planet other than earth Keelhaul :P
03:04:14 <nribeka2> hehe ...
03:06:07 <r0bby> Keelhaul: jquery is pretty easy to learn
03:06:27 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: what do you mean by "auto test header" ?
03:06:38 <Keelhaul> heh
03:06:40 <r0bby> i picked it up pretty quick
03:06:44 <Keelhaul> the method heads
03:07:04 <r0bby> I used jquery's AJAX stuff
03:07:12 <Keelhaul> i have plently of @should in that class
03:07:21 <Keelhaul> and also set the dirs as instructed
03:07:29 <r0bby> is it bad if i stick w/ TDD?
03:08:06 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: still not sure what you mean
03:08:33 <bwolfe> tdd is fine r0bby, as long as the tests you're making are "should" tests :-)
03:08:50 <Keelhaul> public boolean shouldDoSomething()
03:08:58 <r0bby> so in other words TDD is bad :)
03:09:20 <r0bby> shouldBlowYourComputerUp() { ... }
03:09:32 <r0bby> ugh I need to re-write the tests for groovy forms then
03:09:33 <Keelhaul> bwolfe: that what i meant by head
03:09:37 <Keelhaul> what do you call it
03:09:40 <r0bby> bwolfe: are there plans to end support for groovy forms ;x
03:10:15 <r0bby> or do you guys want to see if it's finishable?
03:10:17 <bwolfe> r0bby: tdd isn't bad...test driven development is a great way to code. just as long as those tests are "behavior" like you're good
03:10:30 <Keelhaul> bwolfe: would you say you use BDD here?
03:10:32 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: the method signature ?
03:10:36 <Keelhaul> yea that..
03:10:48 <r0bby> testCreateForm(..)
03:11:48 <bwolfe> r0bby: "support" ends when you stop coding for it. :-p
03:12:03 <bwolfe> r0bby: once its done and people are using it, we might support it if you leave...but right now, you're it!!
03:12:04 <bwolfe> :-)
03:13:00 <r0bby> I won't stop then
03:13:09 <r0bby> right now i'm in the process of re-writing parts
03:13:27 <r0bby> and avoiding machine gun commits
03:13:32 <r0bby> instead i'm gonna do HUGE commits
03:14:43 <bwolfe> r0bby: daily commits are fine :-)
03:15:01 <r0bby> I prefer yearly
03:15:06 <r0bby> or monthly :)
03:18:51 <Keelhaul> or hourly =P
03:20:01 <Keelhaul> Changeset [9124]: groovyforms module: deleted a whitespace
03:20:04 <Keelhaul> <3
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03:23:15 <bwolfe> Changeset [9125]: groovyforms module: readded whitespace
03:23:16 <bwolfe> :-D
03:23:44 <Keelhaul> =)
03:23:48 <Keelhaul> bwolfe: answer my questions plz =/
03:23:58 <bwolfe> although now its going to be: Changeset [9126]: groovyforms module: rewrote everything
03:24:08 <bwolfe> which one, bdd one ?
03:25:11 <Keelhaul> yea
03:25:24 <bwolfe> we use a pseudo bdd :-)
03:25:27 <Keelhaul> and about why the plugin wont generate the signatures
03:25:34 <bwolfe> no stories, but we do use behavior type of tests
03:25:38 <Keelhaul> yea
03:26:05 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: I don't know why it won't. are there any compile errors in your project right now ?
03:26:20 <Keelhaul> no
03:28:25 <nribeka2> i get it working straight away Keelhaul
03:28:32 <Keelhaul> weird
03:28:39 <nribeka2> did you set the props?
03:28:44 <Keelhaul> yes
03:28:56 <nribeka2> usually they have some popups saying whats wrong right
03:29:02 <nribeka2> or check the eclipse log :P
03:31:31 <r0bby> bwolfe: i have this horrible habit of being OCD w/ formats
03:31:44 <r0bby> so I'll just reformat everything :)
03:32:57 <r0bby> Keelhaul: I NEVER commit hourly!
03:32:59 <r0bby> *NEVER*
03:33:14 <r0bby> Okay in the beginning i did but I stopped after I got whipped by bwolfe
03:43:36 <nribeka2> bwolfe, ping pong
03:44:33 <bwolfe> ?
03:44:57 <nribeka2> unable to replicate the problem with hibernate
03:45:26 <nribeka2> patched using 02222009.patch and run the test that you post on the ticket comments
03:45:30 <nribeka2> and run ok :(
03:45:32 <nribeka2> argghhh ...
03:46:35 <Keelhaul> nribeka2: have you tried extending an object type and then instantiate it?
03:47:07 <nribeka2> extending object?
03:47:17 <nribeka2> concept --> concept numeric?
03:47:35 <bwolfe> nribeka2: are you sure you have the right jar ?
03:47:46 <bwolfe> or that @Test is before the unit test method ?
03:47:56 <nribeka2> yeps
03:48:27 <nribeka2> refresh + clean + build
03:52:25 <Keelhaul> hmm
03:52:33 <Keelhaul> apart from the methods not auto generating
03:52:47 <Keelhaul> i still ahve the problem with the module tests not finding the mock xml db
03:55:07 <bwolfe> nribeka2: very odd
03:55:29 <bwolfe> nribeka2: and you only have one hibernate jar, right ?
03:57:14 <Keelhaul> nribeka2: my module extens Encounter, thats when your hibernate jar makes trouble
03:57:17 <Keelhaul> +d
03:59:28 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: not sure about that one
03:59:46 <bwolfe> perhaps r0bby can help, he's doing a lot of tests in his module. :-)
03:59:54 <bwolfe> I'm off for the night
04:00:32 * r0bby does not know Hibernate
04:00:34 <nribeka2> ok bwolfe
04:00:40 <nribeka2> cya bwolfe
04:00:42 <nribeka2> :)
04:00:45 <r0bby> nor do I know the eclipse voodoo
04:00:46 <r0bby> :)
04:00:49 <nribeka2> hahaha
04:01:16 <r0bby> more black magic than Rod Johnson's Black magic framework called spring
04:01:21 <Keelhaul> gn
04:01:30 <nribeka2> is there any test that i can run Keelhaul?
04:01:38 <nribeka2> or i need to install your module and run it?
04:02:35 <Keelhaul> yes, thats the problem
04:02:41 <Keelhaul> i cant give it to anyone yet =(
04:03:03 <Keelhaul> and it only seems to fail in controllers
04:03:13 <nribeka2> arghhh ...
04:03:14 <Keelhaul> junit tests work fine
04:03:15 <nribeka2> huhuhu ...
04:03:21 <nribeka2> ooo ic ic
04:04:08 <nribeka2> how about if i put some logging and give you that hibernate :D
04:04:12 <nribeka2> and you try it
04:04:17 <nribeka2> would it be ok Keelhaul?
04:04:38 <Keelhaul> sure
04:04:46 <Keelhaul> but not right now
04:04:48 <Keelhaul> gotta go sleep
04:05:02 <Keelhaul> friday would be nice
04:06:09 <nribeka2> ooo ok ok Keelhaul
04:06:17 <nribeka2> what time is it there now?
04:06:19 <nribeka2> almost morning?
04:06:21 <nribeka2> lol
04:06:21 <Keelhaul> 5am
04:07:11 <nribeka2> wow ...
04:07:32 <nribeka2> night owl Keelhaul
04:07:38 <Keelhaul> yea =/
04:07:54 <Keelhaul> i need to move to EST and it'd be fixed =)
04:08:41 <nribeka2> lol
04:08:53 <nribeka2> you can fly to indy :P
04:08:56 <nribeka2> or pitt
04:10:23 <r0bby> stay out of MY TZ!
04:11:39 <nribeka2> or NY to r0bby's place lol
04:13:22 <r0bby> I have a closet
04:13:27 <r0bby> you can go in my closet
04:13:33 <r0bby> it's kinda cramped
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04:19:04 <Keelhaul> r0bby: you'd have to come out of it first
04:19:22 <r0bby> LMFAO
04:19:30 <r0bby> no, it's where I hide the bodies!
04:20:02 <r0bby> I mean the extra clothing
04:20:23 <Keelhaul> ok slp time
04:20:24 <Keelhaul> gn
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07:12:44 <antonh> Is openmrs accepted for gsoc 2009?
07:14:40 <upul> antonh: results not published yet
07:23:19 <antonh> They are published today iirc. I just thought you knew beforehand ;)
07:24:34 <antonh> Is there a list of suggestions for gsoc projects then?
07:44:26 <upul> antonh:
07:46:41 <upul> antonh: this is the starting point
07:57:46 <r0bby> antonh: it's highly likely that we WILL be accepted
07:58:07 * r0bby is s student from 2008
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07:59:33 <r0bby> is a*
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13:09:47 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Forum: Unable to load properties file with path <>
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14:13:53 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7130]: in patientmatching module, fixed problem when GUI program writes match … <>
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14:27:01 <Keelhaul> heh
14:27:10 <Keelhaul> accepted gsoc projects will be announced today?
14:31:55 <bwolfe> supposedly
14:35:35 <antonh> ~19.00 cet they say.
14:36:37 <Keelhaul> thats not far from now
14:38:32 <antonh> How much medical experience do people that work with openmrs have?
14:38:50 <Keelhaul> burke and paul are MDs i think
14:39:05 <antonh> ..and how much experience with computer science? :)
14:39:22 <Keelhaul> more than medical usually, i'd say
14:42:26 <Keelhaul>
14:42:29 <OpenMRSBot> <> (at
14:42:30 <Keelhaul> what a nice product photo
14:43:43 <bwolfe> antonh: burke/paul/hamish have MDs. burke also has a CS degree. paul has some classes and a lot of hacking experience. hamish has, well, darius
14:43:47 <bwolfe> hehe
14:43:56 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7131]: in patientmatching module, fixed possible array index out of bounds error … <>
14:44:11 <Keelhaul> lol
14:44:14 <bwolfe> everyone else has limited medical experience but a lot of CS degrees
14:46:38 <antonh> Ok.
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14:48:43 <bwolfe> antonh: do you have any medical experience ?
14:49:21 <antonh> My girlfriend has a "Degree of Bachleor of Science in Biomedical Laboratory Science" :)
14:49:46 <bwolfe> hmm
14:49:49 <bwolfe> not sure that counts :-)
14:50:22 <antonh> But it might be a plus? ;)
14:53:04 <antonh> I will have a MSc in CS this summer though..
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14:56:05 <isurundt> hi upul
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15:03:09 <bwolfe> antonh: so you graduate at the end of the summer, or in may ?
15:03:27 <antonh> May/June.
15:04:15 <bwolfe> antonh: are you taking classes in the fall as well?
15:04:59 <antonh> I am not planning to do that, no.
15:05:56 <antonh> bwolfe, do you have to take courses in the fall to be able to apply for gsoc?
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15:06:36 <bwolfe> antonh: I'm not sure. I thought so. check google's FAQ
15:06:42 <bwolfe> err gsoc's FAQ
15:09:54 <isurundt1> ben:has google abbounced the mentoring organizations list ?
15:10:05 <isurundt1> announced*
15:10:14 <bwolfe> noon PST
15:10:19 <bwolfe> in 4 hours or so I think
15:10:29 <antonh> bwolfe, i just watched this presentation video: and it says "Enrolled as a .. student as of April 20, 2009"
15:10:46 <antonh> I can check if I find it in the FAQ as well.
15:10:57 <bwolfe> antonh: looks like you should be good then. :-)
15:11:05 <isurundt1> ben :ok. Its night here... :)
15:11:19 <antonh> bwolfe, cool ;)
15:11:23 <knishant> this vedio is a gr8 motivation
15:12:54 <bwolfe> isurundt: you're in china? thats merely 3 am for you. you can make it! ;-)
15:13:38 <isurundt1> ben :Sri Lanka
15:14:01 <bwolfe> isurundt: oh ok, your IP says china. :-)
15:14:14 <bwolfe> isurundt: then it'd be midnight or so for you
15:14:16 <bwolfe> no problem
15:14:20 <isurundt1> :)
15:14:30 <antonh> bwolfe, it says "As long as you are enrolled in a college or university program as of April 20, 2009, you are eligible to participate in the program." multiple times in the FAQ as well :)
15:14:37 <bwolfe> cool
15:15:05 <isurundt1> ben:8.35 PM
15:15:40 <Keelhaul> asians live in the future
15:15:43 <Keelhaul> and americans in the past
15:15:55 <isurundt1> :)
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15:29:53 <Keelhaul> i love how you gotta copy dlls around in windows to get stuff running =/
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16:26:37 <Keelhaul> who wrote the openmrs setup wizard
16:26:40 <Keelhaul> it's nice
16:26:49 <Keelhaul> although the title bar doesnt have to be orange...
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17:41:33 <Keelhaul> bwolfe_: could you add a link to trac from somewhere on the homepage of openmrs?
17:43:09 <bwolfe_> Keelhaul: its linked to from the developers page
17:43:14 <Keelhaul> yes,
17:43:21 <bwolfe_> and the "browse source" link from homepage goes to trac
17:43:22 <Keelhaul> that's too deep
18:07:15 <bwolfe_> Keelhaul: what are you suggesting then?
18:07:32 <Keelhaul> bwolfe_: nm, the source link is good enough
18:07:38 <Keelhaul> just needed fast access to the tickets
18:07:57 <Keelhaul> i usually go from my local openmrs installation to the openmrs site via the top left corner link
18:09:57 <bwolfe_> Keelhaul: the FF3 omni bar is your friend
18:10:11 <bwolfe_> just type the title of one of the pages you've visited like "trivial tic"
18:10:15 <bwolfe_> and it should come up :_)
18:10:16 <bwolfe_> :-)
18:10:37 <Keelhaul> i clear my history regularly
18:10:37 <Keelhaul> =P
18:11:08 <Keelhaul> and only chrome calls it "omni bar"
18:11:11 <Keelhaul> so i got a bit confused
18:11:33 <Keelhaul> i usually put things on my bookmark bar
18:11:36 <Keelhaul> but it's full
18:16:53 <bwolfe_> Keelhaul: hmm, maybe its "universal" bar in FF then :-)
18:17:50 <Keelhaul> bwolfe_: bmckown has reviewed ticket #936, wanna add it to trunk? =)
18:18:29 <bwolfe_> Keelhaul: haven't looked, did you add a general note about why some are checked already ?
18:18:42 <Keelhaul> i dont think so
18:23:28 <Keelhaul> bwolfe_: Role.inheritedPrivileges.description=Greyed out checkboxes represent privileges inherited from other roles. These cannot be removed individually.
18:23:30 <Keelhaul> is this ok
18:24:29 <bwolfe_> yeah, something like that :-)
18:24:39 <Keelhaul> bwolfe_: what about other languages
18:24:45 <Keelhaul> should i not updat them or add an english line
18:24:52 <Keelhaul> which someone else can replace later
18:25:00 <bwolfe_> don't add an english line to them, they will inherit
18:25:10 <Keelhaul> i know
18:25:15 <Keelhaul> just wanteed a definition to be there already
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18:31:13 <Keelhaul> hm it cuts of after the first fullstop
18:31:16 <Keelhaul> off*
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18:41:15 <r0bby> qwertson_ is a friend of mine, managed to convince him to do soc
18:41:19 <r0bby> potentially openmrs
18:41:26 <r0bby> !soc
18:41:26 <OpenMRSBot> r0bby: "soc" ---
18:41:29 <r0bby> er
18:41:33 <r0bby> !projects
18:41:33 <OpenMRSBot> r0bby: "projects" --- OpenMRS Projects:
18:41:38 <r0bby> there we go
18:42:07 <Keelhaul> hi
18:42:15 <Keelhaul> bwolfe_: ok, patch updated
18:42:23 <qwertson_> Hi
18:42:58 <bwolfe_> thanks Keelhaul :-)
18:43:04 <bwolfe_> hey qwertson_
18:43:31 <qwertson_> Hey
18:43:59 <bwolfe_> qwertson_: soc anticipation? :-)
18:44:13 <bwolfe_> t minus 16 minutes
18:44:19 <r0bby> whoa we switched up the project page
18:44:20 <qwertson_> yea :)
18:44:25 <r0bby> s/we/you/
18:44:43 <r0bby> wayyy too different :(
18:45:20 <r0bby> eh ben if i ever get groovyforms finished the demo data for patients will be a cake walk :P
18:46:14 <bwolfe_> r0bby: the projects page is still a work in progress
18:46:29 <r0bby> why not put the summer of code logo at the top?
18:46:59 <Keelhaul> i still hate that term =/
18:47:12 <bwolfe_> hate what term?
18:47:18 <Keelhaul> summer of code =)
18:47:49 <r0bby> WHY
18:47:55 <r0bby> it's _KICKASS_ \
18:47:58 <Keelhaul> heh
18:48:14 <r0bby> run by a woman with super human powers
18:48:33 <Keelhaul> when i hear it, a picture of a pale person sitting at the computer comes to my mind while it's sunny outside
18:48:59 <Keelhaul> i'm not much of an outdoors person but i like the sun
18:49:04 <r0bby> in some respects you're right :P
18:55:20 <nribeka> can i join summer of code again?
18:55:25 <nribeka> hi all
19:00:57 <bwolfe_> nribeka: if you're taking classes...
19:02:10 <nribeka> i'm just kidding bwolfe :D
19:03:20 <nribeka> it will be complicated to work on the authorization thing anyway
19:08:43 <r0bby> WHOOOOOA
19:08:47 <r0bby> i dont think we made it ben
19:09:04 <bwolfe_> wheres the list ?
19:10:13 <bwolfe_> r0bby: we're in
19:10:16 <bwolfe_>
19:10:18 <bwolfe_> woohoo!
19:10:19 <r0bby> er false alarm
19:10:26 <OpenMRSBot> <> (at
19:10:31 <Keelhaul> =)
19:13:20 <Keelhaul> no profile hmm
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19:30:49 <Keelhaul> hi docpaul
19:31:15 <docpaul> hello andrey!
19:31:20 <Keelhaul> =o
19:31:24 <Keelhaul> how do you know my name
19:31:31 <docpaul> elfin magic
19:31:36 <Keelhaul> =P
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19:40:16 <r0bby> paul!@
19:40:21 <r0bby> OH MAi!
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19:51:42 <r0bby> wow :)
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19:56:00 <nathanael> congratulations
19:57:43 <bwolfe> thanks nathanael :-)
20:07:57 <nathanael> i just created a user profile and a corresponding wiki page
20:08:00 <nathanael> :)
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20:10:05 <nribeka> congrats docpaul :)
20:10:13 <nribeka> congrats bwolfe
20:10:15 <docpaul> thx. :)
20:10:28 <docpaul> hi win
20:10:29 <docpaul> :)
20:11:06 <nribeka> hi docpaul
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20:11:15 <nribeka> haven't seen you around
20:11:20 <nribeka> ugh he left ...
20:11:22 <bwolfe> hehe
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20:11:27 <nribeka> lol
20:11:35 <bwolfe> you have to catch him quickly! he's only here for seconds at a time!
20:11:36 <docpaul> :)
20:11:50 <nribeka> hahaha lol
20:12:09 <nribeka> i see some new people in the irc :D
20:12:49 * r0bby ties docpaul to his chair
20:12:55 <r0bby> Now he won't move
20:13:01 <r0bby> and will pay attention to *ALL* of us forever
20:13:05 <nribeka> where's the page for the mentoring org now docpaul?
20:13:07 * r0bby cackles manically
20:13:16 <docpaul> hi rob
20:13:29 <r0bby>
20:13:30 <docpaul> um, we're still working on it some... but the current version is
20:13:33 <OpenMRSBot> <> (at
20:13:42 <docpaul> are you planning to apply again win?
20:13:49 <docpaul> b/c i know shaun will have another matching project
20:14:38 <nribeka> i don't know docpaul
20:14:42 <r0bby> I knew there was a down side to recruiting friends!
20:15:01 <nribeka> i'm a bit afraid about the authorization
20:15:24 * r0bby wharfs down junior mints
20:15:35 <docpaul> oh, win.. we should find some time to talk about this at some point soon
20:15:36 <nribeka> friends r0bby?
20:15:46 <r0bby> nribeka: yeh qwertson_ is a friend of mien
20:15:47 <r0bby> mine*
20:16:08 * r0bby pimped gsoc like it was a cheap ...l
20:16:21 <nribeka> docpaul, sure thing :D
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20:22:13 <nribeka> ooo r0bby brought people here :D
20:22:20 <nribeka> are you applying again r0bby?
20:23:18 <r0bby> yes
20:23:25 <r0bby> potentially
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20:25:29 <nathanael_> r0bby, you did apply last year? was your application accepted?
20:25:49 <docpaul> sheesh... a lot of orgs got chopped this year
20:25:55 <docpaul> feel fortunate that we were not one. :I
20:26:04 <Keelhaul> recession
20:26:21 <Keelhaul> althought google has money trees, i heard
20:26:23 <Keelhaul> -z
20:26:25 <Keelhaul> -t*
20:26:27 <r0bby> nathanael_: yes
20:26:32 <nribeka> i didn't see it here docpaul
20:26:33 <nribeka>
20:26:36 <OpenMRSBot> <> (at
20:26:51 <r0bby> nathanael_: tho i did not finish
20:26:51 <docpaul> expand to 100 nri
20:26:55 <nribeka> ouch
20:26:59 <nribeka> there's a second page
20:27:02 <nathanael_> were you active in the project before?
20:27:08 <r0bby> No
20:27:24 <docpaul> he lurked on our irc channel for a year. :)
20:27:28 <r0bby> I'm in the process of (slowly) rewriting portions of it so it worked
20:27:48 <nathanael_> I have never even heard of openmrs before, but working on this project seems to be one of the best options for me in this years gsoc
20:28:05 <r0bby> I did openmrs for one reason: it's a GREAT cause
20:28:08 <nribeka> did you apply last year nathanael_?
20:28:13 <nathanael_> there are some interesting open problems/projects, and helping a noble cause is ... good :)
20:28:27 <nribeka> docpaul i want to apply as backup mentor, can i? :P
20:28:33 <nathanael_> r0bby, exactly
20:28:39 <docpaul> nathanael.. :)
20:28:46 <docpaul> i'd talk to shaun about that win
20:29:29 <nathanael_> shaun?
20:29:49 <nribeka> hm ... but i'm afraid if i have to go back to Indonesia, the internet is not going to be this good ...
20:30:16 <nathanael_> docpaul: is shaun an irc regular?
20:30:42 <nathanael_> docpaul: doesn't exist
20:30:57 <nribeka> nathanael_, shaun --> sgrannis
20:31:19 <docpaul> nathanael_: sorry, i was talking to win
20:31:27 <docpaul> nathanael_: are you interested in applying?
20:31:37 <docpaul> come back this evening... i should be online and we can talk
20:31:38 <nathanael_> definitely
20:31:38 <r0bby> Keelhaul: google cut the number of orgs accepted and capped the max # of students @ 1000
20:31:42 <docpaul> i'm one of the cofounders of openmrs
20:31:51 <r0bby> that's still $5,000,000
20:31:56 <Keelhaul> heh
20:31:57 <nathanael_> ohh,, hi :)
20:32:17 <nathanael_> its already evening in my timezone (germany) :-(
20:32:34 <Keelhaul> nathanael_: i heard heidelberg is the best place for cs =)
20:32:43 <docpaul> heh... ok... perhaps tomorrow then?
20:32:47 <nribeka> you should ask Keelhaul about time nathanael_
20:33:05 <Keelhaul> hey i like working nightts
20:33:13 <nathanael_> docpual: i will be here :)
20:34:10 <docpaul> nath: are you a java whiz?
20:34:25 <nathanael_> kind of :)
20:34:42 <nribeka> docpaul, can i share profile of you and the others?
20:34:50 <nathanael_> i'm studying part time
20:35:15 <nathanael_> while working as a freelance developer/architect/project manager
20:35:19 <docpaul> win: of course!
20:35:30 <nathanael_> mostly in the j2ee/jee5 space
20:35:33 <docpaul> nathanael_: excellent
20:35:40 <nribeka> docpaul:
20:35:43 <OpenMRSBot> <> (at
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20:35:59 <nribeka> ekrub:
20:36:01 <OpenMRSBot> <> (at
20:36:25 <nribeka> shaun:
20:36:27 <OpenMRSBot> <> (at
20:37:10 <nathanael_> thank you for the profiles
20:38:01 <nribeka> np nathanael_
20:38:52 <r0bby> burke was fun to work with last summer
20:39:12 <docpaul> smart dude, and the godfather to my son. :)
20:39:17 <docpaul> so i am biased
20:39:19 <docpaul> ;)
20:39:57 <nribeka> sgrannis is missing :(
20:40:05 <nribeka> i still have james
20:40:07 <nribeka> :D
20:40:16 <docpaul> shaun says hello
20:40:29 <nribeka> hi back to shaun from me docpaul :D
20:41:01 <nathanael_> burke = ekrub?
20:41:06 <nribeka> start creeping on openmrs codebase ticket because we didn't have the chance to touch base for a while
20:41:12 <docpaul> indeed
20:41:36 <docpaul> nribeka: ok
20:42:15 <r0bby> nathanael_: indeed
20:42:17 <nathanael_> how many students did you get last summer?
20:42:24 <docpaul> 11
20:42:45 <nathanael_> how many did finish, and how many are still "with you"?
20:42:48 <r0bby> I hope burke has more time this summer :X
20:43:08 <docpaul> we will likely have 10 - 12... and we might add funds for a couple outside of google, if they live in developing environments and are spectacular candidates
20:43:45 <docpaul> 9 "finished", many of those people (>6) continue on...
20:43:47 <r0bby> i plan on being one of those 10 to 12
20:43:59 <docpaul> 2 have gotten work in the health it area
20:43:59 <r0bby> docpaul: am i considered the finished or no?
20:44:08 <r0bby> or does that include "finished"
20:44:09 <r0bby> :P
20:44:10 <nathanael_> i have to go for now, the university library is closing in the next minutes. will be back later from home or tomorrow
20:44:14 <nathanael_> thank you for your time!
20:44:17 <docpaul> of course
20:44:28 <r0bby> i still learned a lot :)
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20:44:43 <docpaul> rob: i counted you as finished, but that's probably not totally accurate
20:44:43 <r0bby> DWR is amazing.
20:44:44 <docpaul> :)
20:44:52 <r0bby> it's not :(
20:45:12 <docpaul> fix that. :)
20:45:27 * r0bby goes to write his research project
20:45:56 <r0bby> I <3 my ACM membership
20:46:01 <r0bby> docpaul: join ACM :)
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20:48:57 <nribeka> r0bby, i thought you already tied docpaul?
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20:50:24 <r0bby> me too
20:50:33 <r0bby> he must have broken loose
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21:24:49 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #1342 (defect created): cannot save new patient in registration module <>
21:28:37 <ajuonline> r0bby: why do I feel i have heard ACM earlier
21:28:44 <ajuonline> or is it that I am just sleepy?
21:30:26 <r0bby>
21:30:29 <r0bby> you heard right
21:30:35 * r0bby got a student membership
21:30:44 <r0bby> used their digital library for research :)
21:30:58 <r0bby> much better than the crock of .... my school uses
21:31:20 <Keelhaul> what are you researching
21:31:34 <r0bby> applications where multiplexers are used.
21:31:46 <r0bby> I've got several :)
21:31:57 <r0bby> I wish i had an IEEE membership
21:32:16 <r0bby> they dont give annual access to their digital library
21:44:44 <r0bby> ajuonline: why did you ask
21:51:23 <ajuonline> awesome
21:51:36 <ajuonline> just like that, thinking if I should get it as well
21:52:13 <ajuonline> r0bby: what skill sets required for applying to OpenMRS project ideas?
21:52:25 <ajuonline> i will be applying to Sahana and OpenMRS for sure
21:53:36 * ajuonline puts cold water on r0bby
21:53:40 <ajuonline> where di you vanish :P
21:54:08 <Keelhaul> whats sahana
21:56:23 <nribeka1> off
21:56:25 <r0bby> Java/JSP/Spring
21:56:27 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #1129 (task closed): Need selection file module <> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7133]: cohortcreation: Creating initial directory <> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7132]: Initial import. <>
21:56:27 <nribeka1> cya guys later
21:56:31 <r0bby> though this is stuff you can learn on your own
21:56:35 <r0bby> it's not impossible
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22:00:59 <r0bby> green_dots: you changed your nick heh
22:01:23 <green_dots> actually qwertson_ changed his nick
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22:14:19 * r0bby slaps ajuonline
22:15:36 <ajuonline> r0bby: ok thanks :) java/jsp/springs. right?
22:15:51 <ajuonline> Keelhaul: its a disaster management system. H-FOSS as well.
22:16:58 <r0bby> << this is hot
22:20:38 <r0bby> ajuonline: it won't hurt to learn js
22:20:48 <r0bby> tho it's easy to BS w/ Java script
22:21:27 <ajuonline> r0bby: js and java is different. you never mentioned JS :P
22:22:53 <r0bby> ajuonline: JS is used in the JSPs :P
22:23:01 <r0bby> I use it to make web 2.0 come to life
22:23:04 <r0bby> jquery ftw.
22:24:12 <Keelhaul> lol buzzwords
22:27:32 <ajuonline> r0bby: pm
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22:55:32 <r0bby> openmrs_8614: o/
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23:00:06 <r0bby> docpaul returns
23:00:17 <r0bby> now where'd I put that rope...
23:01:31 <r0bby> sup =)
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23:04:32 <Keelhaul> way to scare people away =/
23:40:07 <r0bby> ...
23:40:14 <r0bby> aww
23:40:16 <r0bby> come on
23:40:17 <r0bby> it
23:40:21 <r0bby> 's not like I use it often!
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