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02:21:55 <r0bby> I joined the ACM :D
02:24:56 <bwolfe> r0bby: nice
02:25:23 <bwolfe> r0bby: they always had nice move nights :-p
02:28:29 <r0bby> * Error executing sql: create user ?@'localhost' identified by '?' - Could not create connection to database server. Attempted reconnect 3 times. Giving up.
02:28:40 <r0bby> not a chapter im afraid
02:28:45 <r0bby> just the association as a whole
02:28:49 <r0bby> cost me $62
02:29:45 <r0bby> what do i do :(
02:29:50 <r0bby> WHY is this throwing a fit :(
02:29:55 <Keelhaul> the what =o
02:30:01 <Keelhaul> hi btw
02:30:06 <r0bby> Keelhaul:
02:30:21 <Keelhaul> oh
02:30:35 <Keelhaul> does it cost money
02:30:39 <r0bby> yes
02:30:42 <Keelhaul> =/
02:30:48 <r0bby> but you get access to journal articles
02:30:51 <r0bby> for one year
02:30:56 <r0bby> $62/yearly
02:31:05 <Keelhaul> oh
02:31:12 <Keelhaul> articles for just one year?
02:31:16 <r0bby> yeh
02:31:20 <r0bby> it's a membership due
02:31:34 <Keelhaul> and if you stay member afterwards and pay, you no longer get access?
02:31:34 <r0bby> now why is openmrs acting all wonky :|
02:31:44 <r0bby> I get access
02:31:54 <r0bby> prolly $62 again next year
02:32:02 <Keelhaul> bwolfe: the new hibernate fix broke my dashboard =/
02:32:05 <bwolfe> r0bby: did you say you're running an updated trunk (as of two days ago)
02:32:09 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: yeah, working on it
02:32:11 <r0bby> yes
02:32:34 <bwolfe> r0bby: did you choose an existing user ?
02:32:38 <bwolfe> r0bby: or creating a new one ?
02:32:49 <Keelhaul> bwolfe: also had a lazyinitiationexception in another controller becuase it was based on the encounterformcontroller and loaded obs
02:32:50 <bwolfe> r0bby: any other errors in your tomcat logs ?
02:32:54 <r0bby> i re-created the whole thing
02:32:55 <Keelhaul> i removed that stuff because it wasnt really needed
02:33:10 <r0bby> it's the initialsetup that's throwing the error
02:33:16 <Keelhaul> for some reason though, the encounterformcontroller it was based on works fine
02:33:24 <nribeka> bwolfe, andrey sent some error ;)
02:33:42 <Keelhaul> nribeka: yea, what a buzzkill! =P
02:33:57 <bwolfe> hehe
02:34:00 <nribeka> xixixixi
02:34:04 <bwolfe> ?
02:34:09 <nribeka> (witch laugh)
02:34:23 * r0bby sighs
02:34:29 <Keelhaul> are you spanish languaged or smt
02:34:43 <nribeka> why Keelhaul?
02:34:52 <Keelhaul> because you read X as "kh
02:34:52 <Keelhaul> "
02:35:27 <nribeka> haha no Keelhaul :)
02:36:05 <Keelhaul> bwolfe: who is responsible for "approving" mailing list subscribers?
02:36:40 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: I didn't know people had to get approved
02:36:46 <Keelhaul> thats what the page told me
02:36:49 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: but that would be either burke or paul if it does happen
02:36:52 <Keelhaul> how do i unsubscribe?
02:36:58 <Keelhaul> i needed to change addresses
02:37:07 <bwolfe> theres something at the bottom of all dev emails that says how
02:37:12 <r0bby> okay somebody busted trunk
02:37:14 <Keelhaul> ok
02:39:48 <r0bby> okay seems to be working
02:40:08 <r0bby> bwolfe++
02:40:15 <r0bby> for coding the wizard
02:40:23 <r0bby> i hated doing manual updates/setup
02:41:39 <nribeka> what about changing the logo for the next release :P
02:42:53 <Keelhaul> whats wrong with the current logo
02:43:51 <nribeka> i think there's a ticket to change the logo. the new one will be the one in the wizard Keelhaul
02:43:55 <nribeka> (i think)
02:44:01 <Keelhaul> can you link me to it?
02:44:14 <nribeka> the ticket?
02:44:25 <Keelhaul> well, as long as it doesnt look anything like that "redesign example" from last year lol
02:44:29 <Keelhaul> the image
02:45:50 <nribeka> it's under openmrs-trunk\web\images\openmrs_logo_white.gif
02:46:36 <nribeka>
02:46:39 <OpenMRSBot> <> (at
02:47:11 <Keelhaul> looks liek game controller buttons
02:47:29 <nribeka> lol
02:50:02 <nribeka> i forgot the ticket #
02:58:08 <bwolfe> nribeka / Keelhaul :
02:58:35 <Keelhaul> i like the old logo =/
02:58:52 <nribeka> ah that the one
02:58:53 <nribeka> :D
02:59:16 <bwolfe> nribeka: we want to wait until we make the change in the website first
03:00:30 <nribeka> ah ic ic
03:02:10 <r0bby> bwolfe: works now :D
03:05:28 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7004]: Fixing patient dashboard to work with new hibernate jar - #725 and [7002] <>
03:10:43 <r0bby> nice.
03:10:45 <r0bby> BUUUUUUUUUUUUG
03:12:35 <nribeka> lol
03:12:57 <r0bby> org.codehaus.groovy.runtime.GroovyCategorySupport.getCategoryNameUsage(Ljava/lang/String;)Ljava/util/concurrent/atomic/AtomicInteger;
03:13:00 <r0bby> ^^ :D
03:13:23 <Keelhaul> bwolfe: what was the error
03:16:11 <Keelhaul> eh
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03:16:38 <Keelhaul> you sure StringUtils.haslength(String) is not slower than String.length > 0?
03:16:53 <Keelhaul> ()
03:17:44 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: it checks for null too
03:17:49 <Keelhaul> oh
03:17:57 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: the error was that it was loading a concept and a concept numeric
03:17:59 <Keelhaul> ok, still seems like overkillthough =P
03:18:02 <bwolfe> not sure why that was screwing it up
03:18:03 <bwolfe> :-/
03:18:06 <Keelhaul> yes, the lazy one was
03:18:12 <Keelhaul> i still get the hibernateexception with my module
03:18:21 <bwolfe> boo
03:18:24 <bwolfe> where/why?
03:18:29 <bwolfe> the stack didn't make sense in the email
03:18:31 <Keelhaul> org.openmrs.api.db.hibernate.HibernateEncounterDAO.getEncounters(
03:18:32 <Keelhaul> org.openmrs.api.impl.EncounterServiceImpl.getEncounters(
03:18:32 <Keelhaul> org.openmrs.api.impl.EncounterServiceImpl.getEncountersByPatient(
03:18:41 <bwolfe> but thats in core
03:18:43 <Keelhaul> yea
03:18:50 <Keelhaul> my module extends the service
03:18:50 <bwolfe> heh
03:18:58 <bwolfe> via AOP ?
03:19:01 <Keelhaul> no
03:19:03 <Keelhaul> dugan style
03:21:52 <r0bby> ugh
03:22:31 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: hmm
03:22:43 <bwolfe> I dunno
03:22:55 <bwolfe> I wonder why Tammy said it was working for her
03:24:29 <r0bby> AGH
03:24:44 <r0bby> groovy is throwing a hissy fit :(
03:25:45 <Keelhaul> is that what groovy exceptions are called? =P
03:27:06 <r0bby> no
03:49:36 <Keelhaul> oh great
03:49:50 <Keelhaul> fop is 2 megs and needs additional 600k in libs to work
03:55:20 <Keelhaul> bwolfe: if i remove all parts of my module that load encounters on the dashboard, it still throws the exception
03:55:37 <Keelhaul> i think the mere extention of Encounter causes that when the regular encounters tab loads
03:59:04 <Keelhaul> but only there for some reason
03:59:22 <Keelhaul> both encounter.form pages (mine and normal) work
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10:15:55 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7005]: installer-nbi: Renamed MySQL sql files and database update for v1.4 <>
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13:55:57 * r0bby grumble
14:24:45 <r0bby> cute...
14:25:02 <r0bby> I think the Groovy Module is screwing with thwe groovy forms module
14:25:10 * r0bby needs to update the groovy in that to 1.6
14:25:14 <r0bby> the two need to be in sync
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14:28:19 <r0bby> so I need to keep groovy module in sync w/ groovyforms
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14:34:07 <r0bby> bwolfe
14:34:21 <r0bby> your initialsetup wizard runs _EVERY_ time tomcat restarts... :(
14:34:37 <r0bby> w/o regard to whether or not my runtime properties exist :|
14:34:40 <bwolfe> r0bby: it should only run if it can't find a runtime properties file
14:34:58 <bwolfe> r0bby: is it a vista thing? are you switching back and forth between user/default user again ?
14:35:48 <r0bby> hrm no..
14:36:02 <r0bby> where does it look :|
14:36:07 * r0bby digs
14:36:20 <r0bby> it's in my god damn appdata dir :\
14:36:57 <r0bby> sigh
14:37:28 <r0bby> I liked it better w/o this thing :/
14:37:59 <r0bby> I wish i god damn drove :(
14:38:07 <r0bby> I wanna move to an urban area :(
14:39:30 <r0bby> okay it's throwing a fit
14:42:05 <r0bby> ps: get the driver for other dbs via a property
14:43:37 <r0bby> i gotta go
14:43:43 <r0bby> I'll set the system property\
14:43:46 <r0bby> seems it looks for that
14:43:52 <r0bby> it SHOULD look in APPDATA :)
14:44:03 <r0bby> like i hacked OpenmrsUtil to do
14:44:08 <r0bby> which i will also hack this to do
14:44:13 <r0bby> it's my own tool
14:44:19 <r0bby> ugh
14:44:31 * r0bby sighs
14:44:44 <r0bby> school time for r0bby.
14:44:57 <r0bby> so I can learn get this CS degree so i can be a code monkey or some thing.
15:00:14 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7008]: groovy module: update groovy jar to 1.6.0; the groovyforms and groovy … <>
15:02:00 <bwolfe> r0bby: I don't think thats the right way to do the runtime properties because it jumps around on vista
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17:42:39 <Keelhaul> bwolfe: any ideas on that hibernate problem? =/
17:43:02 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: not really
17:43:07 <Keelhaul> damn
17:43:13 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: I was hoping to get some feedback from vibha by now
17:43:32 <Keelhaul> that module is useless in the current state =/
17:43:33 <bwolfe> can you look in her module's code to see if she is overriding the same way you are ?
17:43:39 <bwolfe> maybe there is a newer fancier way :-)
17:43:48 <Keelhaul> hm
17:43:52 <Keelhaul> vibha is a she?
17:43:54 <Keelhaul> didnt know lol
17:46:26 <Keelhaul> bwolfe: whats her module
17:47:10 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: yeah, both vibha and tammy are "she"s
17:47:23 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: should be the same module that the wiki page was written about
17:48:06 <Keelhaul> the page was based on one of tammy's modules
17:48:13 <Keelhaul> and thats exactly how i did it
17:49:33 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: I'm saying she might have changed that module in her code since writing the wiki page
17:49:39 <Keelhaul> o
17:49:53 <Keelhaul> bwolfe: and her stuff still works fine?
17:50:14 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: she claimed it did a few weeks ago in the ticket
17:50:24 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: but she might have done something wrong
17:52:26 <Keelhaul> bwolfe: which controller loads the encounters for the encounters tab on the dashbaordß
17:52:27 <Keelhaul> ?
17:52:55 <Keelhaul> PatientDashboardController?
17:52:56 <bwolfe> PortletController ?
17:52:57 <bwolfe> I dunno
17:53:21 <Keelhaul> List<Encounter> encs = Context.getEncounterService().getEncountersByPatient(patient);
17:53:22 <Keelhaul> hmm
17:53:25 <Keelhaul> nothing special here
17:53:27 <Keelhaul> dunno why it breaks
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18:00:05 <Keelhaul> bwolfe: are there any other modules by tammy besides atd, dss and chica?
18:00:40 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: I believe they use the hl7listener too
18:01:39 <Keelhaul> that's not in the repository
18:01:46 <Keelhaul> and the other three dont extend encounters
18:01:52 <Keelhaul> or any other
18:03:23 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: perhaps thats why its still working for her :-p
18:03:28 <Keelhaul> yea..
18:03:56 <Keelhaul> that's unfortunate
18:04:12 <Keelhaul> because that module now only works with a narrow range of pre-beta 1.5 builds
18:07:14 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: well, we need to find the fix
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18:08:58 <bwolfe> basic`: do you or I have the ability to update the ssl certificate on dev.openmrs ?
18:10:29 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7010]: Changed Update Concept Words task to mark itself as stopped when … <> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7009]: 1.4.x: Fixed concept word update via sql - #1115 Changed Update Concept … <>
18:11:19 <Keelhaul> oh you got to be kidding me
18:11:28 <bwolfe> now what ?
18:11:33 <Keelhaul> no matter how many libs i add for FOP to work, it wants more
18:11:38 <Keelhaul> this one is 3.3megs
18:11:41 <bwolfe> heh
18:12:06 <Keelhaul> thats 6.03MB in /libs now
18:12:21 <bwolfe> thats a big module
18:13:54 <Keelhaul> yea, all because i wanted to use XSL-FO for creating pdfs
18:13:58 <Keelhaul> i-text is way smaller
18:14:00 <Keelhaul> and also in trunk
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18:43:23 <Keelhaul> bwolfe: i removed the bean for EncounterService from my applicationcontext
18:43:26 <Keelhaul> still the same exception
18:44:14 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: ?
18:44:24 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: even without your module doing the funky stuff it fails ?
18:44:29 <Keelhaul> yea
18:44:59 <Keelhaul> that particular exception went away when i removed my Encounter.hbm.xml from my config.xml
18:45:06 <Keelhaul> of course, that caused other problems
18:45:25 <Keelhaul> but i think the problem is in the object extention itself, not the service extension
18:48:18 <Keelhaul> assuming the old exception is triggered before the new one, that is
18:49:00 <Keelhaul> but when it complains about the missing Encounter object type, it does so when the gutter of the page is already displaying
18:49:28 <Keelhaul> as opposed to the exception-only white page when HibernateException was thrown
19:04:17 <r0bby> bwolfe: APPDATA is always defined
19:04:30 <r0bby> it's an environment variable which is ALWAYS accessible
19:04:55 <r0bby> while it may be different from system to system, APPDATA always tells us WHERE to look.
19:05:01 <r0bby> s/WHERE/where/
19:05:50 <bwolfe> r0bby: my complaint is that its different on the /same/ system on vista depending on how you log in
19:07:24 <r0bby> well hard coding the path sucks
19:07:31 <r0bby> for me
19:07:39 <r0bby> since it runs as a service
19:07:51 <bwolfe> r0bby: yeah, or you could just learn to live with where openmrs puts it. :-p
19:07:54 <r0bby> it's in C:\windows\config\systemprofile\AppData\Openmrs
19:08:00 <r0bby> yeh I dont like that
19:08:11 <r0bby> so i'll just do it my way and not commit it :)
19:08:19 <r0bby> AppData is defined for each user
19:08:34 <r0bby> I dont see why using the env. var is so bad
19:08:45 <Keelhaul> mine is in C:\AppData\OpenMRS
19:09:01 <r0bby> and APPDATA ALWAYS gets that
19:09:05 <r0bby> at least it SHOULD
19:09:10 <Keelhaul> but one time it put itself into C:\Users\<username>\Roaming\AppData\OpenMRS or smt
19:09:21 <r0bby> APPDATA is definwed for each user logged in
19:09:28 <r0bby> it depends how you run the app
19:09:54 <r0bby> runnign as a service throws it in the systemprofile app dir
19:10:44 <r0bby> personally i've seen nothing wrong w/ APPDATA
19:11:09 <r0bby> but I'm gonna agree to disagree here; I have a system that works for me
19:11:25 <r0bby> I can test my app just fine as-is
19:12:37 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7011]: 1.4.x: Reformatted all java source files according to the new openmrs … <>
19:14:05 <r0bby> I'm the only IntelliJ IDEA user?
19:14:47 <r0bby> I don't have the format :X
19:14:59 <r0bby> i use whatever's default
19:16:51 <bwolfe> r0bby: bmckown uses IDEA sometimes too I think
19:16:58 <bwolfe> or at least some other kind of IDe
19:17:01 <bwolfe> *IDE
19:18:25 <r0bby> i know sunbiz seems to be using netbeans
19:18:40 <r0bby> We're gonna need to renew the OSS license
19:18:53 <r0bby> soonish (August it expires)
19:19:45 <r0bby> bwolfe: module's classpath, are they run isolated, or as one?
19:20:25 <r0bby> it seems to be that all deps are thrown onto the classpath :x
19:20:30 <bwolfe> r0bby: the IDEA oss license?
19:20:36 <r0bby> si :)
19:20:41 <bwolfe> r0bby: not sure what you mean by "run"
19:21:13 <r0bby> bad wording: is the classpath the same for all modules ie do they just add to the current classpath?
19:21:50 <bwolfe> r0bby: each module has its own classpath
19:21:54 <r0bby> like say groovy module has 1.5.7 jar for groovy, then groovyforms comes along and adds the 1.6.0 jar... do we get some fun classpath stuff
19:21:58 <bwolfe> and is separate for that module's project
19:22:19 <r0bby> because it seemed that having both caused an interesting problem
19:22:28 <bwolfe> with eclipse at least, there is a way to link projects, so that one project pulls from the other
19:22:39 <bwolfe> r0bby: if you had both modules loaded, then yes
19:23:06 <r0bby> that was my question
19:23:17 <bwolfe> r0bby: a call to load "SomeGroovyClass.class" would get it from either jar (1.57 or 1.6)
19:23:29 <r0bby> yeh that's what i experienced
19:23:35 <bwolfe> sorry, thought you were asking for within the ide
19:23:45 <r0bby> it happened when i tried to load the extension point class
19:23:49 <bwolfe> its first-come-first-loaded in the webapp classloader
19:23:52 <r0bby> nope within openmrs
19:23:58 <r0bby> yeh we can't have that
19:24:06 <r0bby> all modules which use groovy MUST be sync
19:24:20 <r0bby> I intentionally waited until 1.6.0 to come out
19:25:26 <Keelhaul> bwolfe: do exceptions whose stack is in the page source of the dashboard occur later than exceptions with a dedicated page?
19:26:24 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: yeah, a stack within the page source usually means it happened inside the jsp or inside a controller for a portlet on that page
19:26:53 <Keelhaul> bwolfe: then i guess the new hibernate jar has a problem with the extention of Encounter itself, rather than the service
19:27:05 <Keelhaul> and there isnt really much to do wrong there
19:27:16 <Keelhaul> a class and a mapping file
19:28:22 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: yeah, seems it isn't caching in the right places. :-/
19:28:46 <Keelhaul> bwolfe: so theres nothing i can do about it besides a complete redesign?
19:28:56 <Keelhaul> or is there an error in the fixed hibernate jar
19:29:00 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: if you can make a unit test for trunk with your module like the Module unit tests in there now, it would be very helpful
19:29:14 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: that way either me or nribeka can more easily find the fix in hibernate
19:29:50 <Keelhaul> bwolfe: my module unit tests are old and prolly dont even work anymore
19:29:57 <Keelhaul> it's basically one long method testing lots of stuff
19:30:14 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: no, I meant create one in trunk
19:30:25 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: using a condensed version of your omod
19:32:09 <Keelhaul> bwolfe: with my module omod in trunk's resources?
19:32:40 <bwolfe> right. its your module minus jars, and a lot of the heavy stuff
19:32:45 <Keelhaul> hehe
19:32:48 <Keelhaul> 6 megs in jars =D
19:33:00 <Keelhaul> so basically just the objects and services maybe
19:33:04 <Keelhaul> no need for the controllers etc
19:33:09 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: look at
19:33:15 <Keelhaul> ok i will
19:33:17 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: right
19:33:28 <Keelhaul> lemme use that elliptical for half an hour now =)
19:42:02 <r0bby> wow i'd like to know how Banner estimates my graduation date
19:42:09 <r0bby> Expected Graduation Date: May 21, 2011
19:42:13 <r0bby> it's on target too
19:42:43 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #1242 (defect closed): Patient can be created from user or person without required fields (eg, DOB, names, etc.) <> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7013]: 1.4.x: Backported fix for creation of a new patient from an existing user … <> || OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #1291 (task closed): Fix Person/Patient/User Name searches to include other columns <> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7012]: 1.4.x: Backported fix adding familyName2 to person/patient/user searches - … <>
20:14:45 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #1261 (task closed): Find similar patient names needs to handle names with more than 3 components <>
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21:18:48 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7015]: 1.4.x: Changed global property description for name layout - #1290 <> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7014]: 1.4.x: Added all current types to the global property … <>
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22:26:22 <basic`> bwolfe: yep, i have the power to update that for you
22:26:37 <bwolfe> sweet
22:26:40 <bwolfe> just in time !
22:26:46 <bwolfe> I was about ready to take off
22:27:03 <basic`> haha, do you want to just drop it in your homedir?
22:27:51 <bwolfe> sure, what files do you need? Plesk gives me access to some text fields. I don't have the original file
22:29:48 <basic`> right now we just have a .pem file that has all of the info in it
22:30:13 <bwolfe> basic`: hmm, I copied the text into a .txt in my home dir
22:30:16 <basic`> it has the priv key and 4 certs in it
22:30:33 <bwolfe> yeah, those are the text blocks I have
22:30:42 <basic`> perfect
22:30:59 <bwolfe> but I don't see how I can download a pem. so hopefully you can construct it from those parts. :-)
22:31:08 <Keelhaul> bwolfe: are there forward incompatibilites in java?
22:31:15 <bwolfe> yeah
22:32:00 <r0bby> hey bwolfe may wanna put some kind of progress indication w/ the initial setup wizard
22:32:11 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: it doesn't follow links from http to https
22:32:16 <bwolfe> r0bby: theres a ticket for that already :-)
22:32:25 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: errr links == redirects
22:32:31 <Keelhaul> bwolfe: what doesnt
22:32:37 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: java
22:32:43 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: using urlConnection, etc
22:32:49 <Keelhaul> heh
22:32:55 <r0bby> oh ffs \
22:32:58 <r0bby> that wasn'[t it
22:32:59 <Keelhaul> i mean if a program written with java 1.4 wont run in 5 or 6
22:33:00 <r0bby> UGH
22:33:02 <Keelhaul> smt like that
22:33:11 <r0bby> ...why must the crap fly so badly
22:33:17 <r0bby> WHY can't crap fly good
22:33:33 <r0bby> since december it's been one god damn problem after he next
22:33:35 <r0bby> the*
22:33:53 <basic`> bwolfe: updated, how does that look?
22:35:14 <bwolfe> basic`: much better :-) now my unit tests pass again!
22:35:17 <bwolfe> thanks!
22:35:30 <basic`> you're welcome!
22:36:01 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: the url stuff has been like that since 1.2 or something
22:36:08 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: IMHO, its very annoying
22:36:41 <Keelhaul> bwolfe: i'm sure it is, but thats not what i asked =P
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22:39:30 <r0bby> argh
22:39:42 <r0bby> _NOW_ i get a SAX exception when parsing the app context for the groovy module
22:39:44 <r0bby> ...
22:39:51 <r0bby> crap is really flying tonight
22:40:10 <bwolfe> r0bby: heh, thats what happens when you let something sit for months on end. :-)
22:40:18 <bwolfe> r0bby: jars are upgraded, etc
22:40:57 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: hmm, I'm confused then. as far as I know java hasn't ever broken backwards compatibility. 1.4 works in 1.5 works in 1.6
22:41:36 <Keelhaul> bwolfe: this guy claims this software written "for java 1.4" they use wont work in later releases
22:41:50 <Keelhaul> i thought stuff stays deprecated for many years
22:42:00 <bwolfe> its supposed to
22:42:19 <r0bby> Sun is insane about backwards compatibility
22:42:26 <r0bby> type erasure exists for that reason
22:43:16 <r0bby> ...
22:43:17 <bwolfe> indeed.
22:43:21 <bwolfe> dinnertime. I'm out.
22:43:27 <r0bby> have fun o/
22:46:04 <Keelhaul>
22:46:06 <Keelhaul> interesting
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